Deus 2 might just be the new bomb

[tnsharpshooter]

Guys a lot of you keep saying it's easy to go back and keep finding more from previously hunted spots. Sure if you only hunted them a few times haphazardly, then yes maybe.

My spots have been cleaned out. You are not going to find a good silver signal. You may find plenty of iffys to dig, but you not going to find an obvious dig me signal. One Park I offered two digging buddies $20.00 for a silver. They get 5 holes apiece to do it in. No takers! I have not hunted it more than half a dozen times this year. Have not found a silver there since last Jan.-Feb. time frame. By the way the Equinox opened this park back up. It had been given up on. I managed around 15 silvers the winter and spring I got my Equinox. After that silver finds became very sporadic.

So if I take a Deus II in there and it unmask any obvious dig me signals believe me that's doing something. I've got several places like that. To me that's how you test a machine other than in the wild found target head to heads.

Well,
You don’t know whether any coins are left.
If you dug the top 14” of dirt and sifted. And no coins materialized then there may not be any left.
You are presuming.
Is there any low conductor targets still in site?
Is there any iron left in site?
Has any detector deeper than Eqx been used in site?

If the answer to first 2 questions is yes.
And the answer to the last question is no.
There could be coins located and dug in the site.

Never say never when it comes to detecting.

Think about this.
Deus 2 with 9” coil. It appears deep.
So with it’s smaller footprint it just might alert on a deeper target (coin) that Eqx with 11” coil can’t get. This could be driven by either or lower conductor maskers or iron.

Could we place nails and foil around say a 9” deep coin whereas Deus 2 pegs it. Where as Nox, Etrac, CTX, Anfibio, etc can’t hit? I think so.

Just takes one scenario(problem) in site that Deus 2 solves and the others won’t.

Also, I am going to ask Calabash to do the following with Deus 2.
Anyone who has used Deus 1.
Seems best I remember you change freqs you can hear relay inncoil withmfreq change.
So can he hear relay action in coil with program change using multi freq?
If so this would suggest freq change going on.
And imo this may be first multi freq detector that does this. I have a hunch it is doing this. Don’t know though. A gut hunch.

 

[Monte]

For my urban sites I get by just fine with my Apex and Bandido II microMAX and Silver Sabre microMAX. My age and health limitations don't let me chase the vast and mostly empty spaces for the limited old coin returns they might hold.

The bulk of my oldest coins and many good Trade Tokens since the summer of '83 have come from ghost towns and other Relic Hunting related old sites with a lot of Iron Nails and other drbtis. For this the best detectors I have for 'unmasking' are my FORS CoRe and FORS Relic and ORX.

From what I have seen, especially Gary Blackwell's videos and explanations, I know the Deus II will be worth the investment. Combined with what

Monte

 

[woodbutcher]

Shame Calabash was run off the forum, but thankfully he's still giving valuable input via Youtube.

He ran himself off,in case you weren't aware

 

[diggindaboot]

who are these people??????

Dunno, but all of a sudden that video is gone. Hmmmmm. Actually, it was an April fools, joke ! LOL

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Here’s video Deus 2. Burying deep coin I think.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=otVL7XOvI5w

 

[longbow62]

Tnsharpshooter Cleaned out was the wrong term. I think there is more silver there. I just think it's obviously masked by either modern surface trash and deeper iron.
I know that the Equinox has found about all it can. Just like the Etrac found all it could before that. Can any more be found without digging really iffy targets?

I guess I will see if the Deus II can open it back up for a few more finds. There is deep old iron nails there. They appear to be as deep as the silver is. Possibly torn down bleachers. I might add the silver that is left is all deep. Never found a silver Rosie, although shallower ones were found with the Etrac. Never found a Barber. All Mercs at edge of detection depth. All the easy silver was long gone before I got the Equinox.

 

[diggindaboot]

Deus 1 obsoleted and many more. Yeah I said it.

This phrase right here needs to be obsoleted. Like buried in the ocean at 100,000 ft down. No detector will ever obsolete all other detectors. NEVER. It's the single most BS phrase in the detecting lexicon.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

This phrase right here needs to be obsoleted. Like buried in the ocean at 100,000 ft down. No detector will ever obsolete all other detectors. NEVER. It's the single most BS phrase in the detecting lexicon.

Xp would likely agree with me.
You don’t get to say which words or terms get to be discarded in dictionary.
You seem to fail to understand meaning of obsolete.

Obsolete doesn’t mean a product or system is useless, unusable, worthless, etc.

Just a better product that does what a previous made product does.

Groundhog garrett detectors were from from looks of things obsoleted by AT Pro.

Folks can choose what they want to buy and use.

We must however admit the facts better devices to do certain operations exist.

Yeah I am a realist. And I don’t plan on changing.

When I see a VLF detector with 11” coil hitting 16” deep buried coins. My jaw drops.
When I see tremendous coil height when a what is typically a difficult to detect scenario is swept. My jaw drops.

Seems new sheriff in town for now. My take. I don’t think I am off base either with my assessment.

 

[diggindaboot]

Xp would likely agree with me.
You don’t get to say which words or terms get to be discarded in dictionary.
You seem to fail to understand meaning of obsolete.

Obsolete doesn’t mean a product or system is useless, unusable, worthless, etc.

Just a better product that does what a previous made product does.

Groundhog garrett detectors were from from looks of things obsoleted by AT Pro.

Folks can choose what they want to buy and use.

We must however admit the facts better devices to do certain operations exist.

Yeah I am a realist. And I don’t plan on changing.

When I see a VLF detector with 11” coil hitting 16” deep buried coins. My jaw drops.
When I see tremendous coil height when a what is typically a difficult to detect scenario is swept. My jaw drops.

Seems new sheriff in town for now. My take. I don’t think I am off base either with my assessment.

From Websters

Essential Meaning of obsolete
1: no longer used because something newer exists
obsolete [=outdated] computers
The system was made/rendered obsolete by their invention.
: replaced by something newer
obsolete mills and factories
2: no longer used by anyone

More people won't than will, buy a 1500-dollar detector. Detectors are like vehicles. 20k vehicle vs a 50k vehicle. They will both get you there. One will do it in more comfort. Even one's who can afford the 50k vehicle aren't always going to buy said vehicle.

Forums represent a miniscule amount of detectorist. Even most forum readers won't buy a 1500-dollar detector.

BTW, if you're in the field, better close your mouth. Bugs can get in there.

 

[Trashfinder]

Xp would likely agree with me.
You don’t get to say which words or terms get to be discarded in dictionary.
You seem to fail to understand meaning of obsolete.

Obsolete doesn’t mean a product or system is useless, unusable, worthless, etc.

Just a better product that does what a previous made product does.

Groundhog garrett detectors were from from looks of things obsoleted by AT Pro.

Folks can choose what they want to buy and use.

We must however admit the facts better devices to do certain operations exist.

Yeah I am a realist. And I don’t plan on changing.

When I see a VLF detector with 11” coil hitting 16” deep buried coins. My jaw drops.
When I see tremendous coil height when a what is typically a difficult to detect scenario is swept. My jaw drops.

Seems new sheriff in town for now. My take. I don’t think I am off base either with my assessment.

I agree, i can still detect and hunt with my Gold Mountain Boss that I got in 1980 she sits in the closet now because I have a lot of detectors over the last 41 years that have obsoleted her. But she will still get the job done depending on what I am trying to accomplish, but yeah for sure she is obsoleted like a lot of newer detectors are today. Just much better machines I would rather use. I think from the limited videos out right now that the Deus 2 will do to the Nox what the Nox basically did to all other machines several years ago. Looks to be a game changer for sure.

 

[diggindaboot]

I agree, i can still detect and hunt with my Gold Mountain Boss that I got in 1980 she sits in the closet now because I have a lot of detectors over the last 41 years that have obsoleted her. But she will still get the job done depending on what I am trying to accomplish, but yeah for sure she is obsoleted like a lot of newer detectors are today. Just much better machines I would rather use. I think from the limited videos out right now that the Deus 2 will do to the Nox what the Nox basically did to all other machines several years ago. Looks to be a game changer for sure.

A new game changer is released every few years. There are still a great number of people who won't buy new. Look at the cost of used Tesoro detectors because some hunters love them.

I know more detectorist that don't have a Nox than do. They're content. For some like you and me, we'll always keep up with technology and let a detector prove itself. For many however, 1k or 1500 bucks will never be in their price range because of economics or choice, and they'll still enjoy the hobby.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Kajun,
For some reason you are trying to turn this thread into all about people (detectorist). This subforum is all about detectors.

For the record. Many here bought Deus 1 units back when. You know what they cost? About what Deus 2 cost. And I am talking about back in 2013-2014-2015. Eight years ago approximately.
Deus 2 could be priced too cheap really.

I nor you can read minds. So you don’t know what the general population will do as far as buying or not buying Deus 2.

Xp has been a pioneer when it comes to VLF detectors.
A lot of other manufacturers are following suit where and when they can.

I got preached to about other manufacturers making updatable detectors. Look now where industry is as a whole.
Same with iron volume, wireless headphones, collapsible shafts, etc.

So Deus 2 creation may force other manufacturers to do some things. No doubt.

Don’t forget Deus 2 lite version will materialize. It will be cheaper. And this may allow some folks to hop onnthe Deus 2 train. Also worth mentioning. Deus 1 rod works with Deus 2 components. So Deus 1 rod owner can buy a coil and remote and use deus 2. Or buy puck for stem and coil and use Deus 2.

 

[woodbutcher]

A new game changer is released every few years. There are still a great number of people who won't buy new. Look at the cost of used Tesoro detectors because some hunters love them.

I know more detectorist that don't have a Nox than do. They're content. For some like you and me, we'll always keep up with technology and let a detector prove itself. For many however, 1k or 1500 bucks will never be in their price range because of economics or choice, and they'll still enjoy the hobby.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. 25 years ago when my youngsters where born I couldn’t have swung $200 for a machine,things were tight. Fortunately they’re grown,I’ve become better off financially and can buy what I want.. But I look at a lot of people I know right now,who don’t detect,overall people. Good people but to swing $500 would be a stretch for them if they decided to get in this hobbie,as soon as a $1000 or more machine would hit they’re screen while they’re looking,,well, it might as well be a Lamborghini..It would immediately be dismissed.
Very few people on these forums are gonna swing that $1500,, id say less than 1% ,,and I would feel confident on laying money on that bet. So, although some think you need these new machines every year the vast majority are playing it safe with what they have,and what’s realistic to spend .

 

[ghound]

From what I've seen, the D2 will obsolete my Nox on well hunted permissions.

 

[diggindaboot]

Kajun,
For some reason you are trying to turn this thread into all about people (detectorist). This subforum is all about detectors.

For the record. Many here bought Deus 1 units back when. You know what they cost? About what Deus 2 cost. And I am talking about back in 2013-2014-2015. Eight years ago approximately.
Deus 2 could be priced too cheap really.

I nor you can read minds. So you don’t know what the general population will do as far as buying or not buying Deus 2.

Xp has been a pioneer when it comes to VLF detectors.
A lot of other manufacturers are following suit where and when they can.

I got preached to about other manufacturers making updatable detectors. Look now where industry is as a whole.
Same with iron volume, wireless headphones, collapsible shafts, etc.

So Deus 2 creation may force other manufacturers to do some things. No doubt.

Don’t forget Deus 2 lite version will materialize. It will be cheaper. And this may allow some folks to hop onnthe Deus 2 train. Also worth mentioning. Deus 1 rod works with Deus 2 components. So Deus 1 rod owner can buy a coil and remote and use deus 2. Or buy puck for stem and coil and use Deus 2.

And there's still a whole lot of detectorist who don't swing a Deus. Or a Nox and so on. Never will. They're never gonna pay that much. There will always be a market for Simplex's, Vanquishes and the ACE line. Ergo the useless dissemination of one detector obsoleting another.

Xp has been a pioneer when it comes to VLF detectors. All detector companies at some point or another have been pioneers.

 

[diggindaboot]

I agree with this wholeheartedly. 25 years ago when my youngsters where born I couldn’t have swung $200 for a machine,things were tight. Fortunately they’re grown,I’ve become better off financially and can buy what I want.. But I look at a lot of people I know right now,who don’t detect,overall people. Good people but to swing $500 would be a stretch for them if they decided to get in this hobbie,as soon as a $1000 or more machine would hit they’re screen while they’re looking,,well, it might as well be a Lamborghini..It would immediately be dismissed.
Very few people on these forums are gonna swing that $1500,, id say less than 1% ,,and I would feel confident on laying money on that bet. So, although some think you need these new machines every year the vast majority are playing it safe with what they have,and what’s realistic to spend .

Look at the new members who sign up and want advice on a detector purchase and their budget is 300 or less. The obsolete word is overused.

 

[woodbutcher]

I liked the original Deus, not so much the Orx. If I were a dig it all The Orx is pretty good.. The original Deus I could be selective, it wasn’t the best as a park machine but was usable. The weight,depth and separation of the Deus 1 is still unmatched compared to anything I’ve used so far..
The Deus 2 could be better, I’d hafto see some unbiased infield users before I’d consider buying anything for that much. The newer Deus does have a few nice added features I like,but that’s just by looking,appearances..No bias from me when it comes to XP products,I’ve always liked them.But I know they’re not for everyone,just like any other machine in the market.The more reviews that come out will tell the tale of this new Deus 2 and if it’s worth jumping ship.

 

[Cherry Picker]

As far as cherry-picking deep silver I still prefer the E-Trac, but I loved my Deus. I could only imagine how I will like the Deus II. But $1,600 OUCH!!!

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Yeah, look at the people who start off with a more budget friendly detector, get hooked and move up.

This thread about Deus 2.
Not about people.
You want to start your own thread asking who is buying Deus 2, feel free.

We could say what you are saying about any model really. Why bother.

I learned early in life- you can only please half the people half the time.

This thread should have Deus 2 info. Folks can read and make their judgements as far as buying. Or even using for that matter.

Seems every time a new good detector materializes we go through this. Ashame really.
Notice btw Deus 2 is being compared to What?
And yeah the EQx naysayers and deflectors were on here too when it debuted and some folks realized how good it was.

Normal behavior I would expect when a new model is released and thread is started.
Is to ask questions and or put info in thread to support thread.

Think about this.
Wonder how it would look if I went into every At Pro, Apex, ORX, Mxt, etc threads’ and posted I won’t buy? Wouldn’t do a soul here any good would it?

Now to go post you are buying said model could be helpful. As other members here could in near future ask your opinion or answer specific questions about the detector model.

I hate to see threads get polluted here.

 

[diggindaboot]

I hate to see threads get polluted here.

This is rich coming from you !