Fisher Impulse AQ detector update

[lytle78]

The Fisher Research Labs website has a list of dealers. this forum has no doubt sponsor dealers. Contact them if you like.

No dealers likely have any information on the Impulse AQ because - as a product on the market - it doesn’t exist yet. For reasons best known to themselves, First Texas (the mothership) isn’t stirring the pot about this machine. No product release announcement, including final details, price, warranty, etc. are out there.

I started all this folderol two years ago after Mike Scott at FT told me that they had hired Alexandre and the team and acquired the Manta project. I asked him if I could post that and he said yes. I had been tracking the Manta project on Carl Moreland’s Geotech site for a couple of years before that, so I was super excited.

So, it’s all my fault.

 

[FelixtheCat]

I don't know where you heard that or is it wishful thinking... my guess is $3500 to $4000 this is a "niche" detector... its not going to be for everyone Felix... but with the job you have... open up that wallet squeaky

Found it! Here's where I got that $2,100-2,500 price range. Whether its Gospel or not is another story... (Look at bullet #10)

http://hobby-detecting.com/fisher-i...tal-discrimination-2019-novelty-first-photos/

 

[dewcon]

Yet you have no inside information. You just popped some pretty important names. I do how ever understand your excitement about this machine. I was excited about the Nox ....which was so so to me... AND this one. I’m keeping in touch with a few people and hoping this will be a winner here in Fl.

 

[lytle78]

Just because I know somebody and we can converse occasionally doesn’t mean that they tell me everything that comes their way. I believe I remember from the days nearly 50 years ago when as a lowly co-pilot on a Strategic Air Command Combat Crew - with a Top Secret Crypto clearance - it was clearly explained to me that access to information required not only the correct level of clearance but a “need to know”.

Regardless of who I might have a conversation with, the same principles no doubt apply.

Obviously, I currently - apart from who I might get a chance to talk to, I have no “need to know” about the things I have said here that I have no information on.

I am optimistic. I am frustrated by the length of time it has taken. But I remain optimistic.

P.S. I clearly remember one night while on alert at the alert facility on a SAC base - when the “move if the week” 16mm print of a current film - showed up - and we sat and watched “Dr. Strangelove” with our tankers and nuclear armed B-52’s sitting outside on the ramp a few hundred feet away. That was a truly odd occasion.

 

[Lets_dig_it]

Regarding the price of the AQ or any unit for that matter, in my opinion it’s not the actual price that matters so much as it is how long will it take to pay for itself. The price will be a number $$$$ and will be relatively the same for everyone, but how long it takes to pay for itself is variable, being different for each user based on their time, skill, and hunting grounds. That “variable” is really for each of us to figure out for ourselves.

So let’s just say for arguments sake that a $1000 unit would take 3 months to pay for itself and a $2500 unit would take 6 months (because it cost more but can find more gold on average). After 6 months with the $1000 unit you have paid for the unit plus put $1k in gold to your collection. After 6 months with the $2500 unit you have just paid for the machine but saved no gold. After 1 year with each unit now you are at $3k in gold saved with the $1000 unit and $2.5k in gold saved with the $2500 unit. However, after 2 years you’re looking at $7k in gold with the $1000 unit and $7.5k in gold with the $2500 unit. And so on.

These numbers are purely hypothetical. What if each unit took 3 months to pay for itself? What if units cost was $1500/$3000? I’ve ignored other variables such as the possibility that one machine might find smaller diamond rings or larger deep gold more often and thus increase its value.

So anyway, if you’re still reading, in regards to the AQ, if it meets its expectations (of course as of yet unknown) then it would be in a class of its own and would pay off more finds more quickly. Of course I’d rather have it cost $2000 and meet expectations than $4000, but in either case it’s likely more valuable over time.

The best way to know, unfortunately since its not out yet none of us can do this, is to go to a local dealer with your favorite pulse and a couple rings and perform your own comparison.

 

[Lets_dig_it]

The Fisher Research Labs website has a list of dealers. this forum has no doubt sponsor dealers. Contact them if you like.

No dealers likely have any information on the Impulse AQ because - as a product on the market - it doesn’t exist yet. For reasons best known to themselves, First Texas (the mothership) isn’t stirring the pot about this machine. No product release announcement, including final details, price, warranty, etc. are out there.

I started all this folderol two years ago after Mike Scott at FT told me that they had hired Alexandre and the team and acquired the Manta project. I asked him if I could post that and he said yes. I had been tracking the Manta project on Carl Moreland’s Geotech site for a couple of years before that, so I was super excited.

So, it’s all my fault.

Thanks. I’m not looking for information from a dealer, I’m happy to just wait until somebody announces or says when its coming out. The question I was asking was because I’ve been totally out of the loop on this hobby so i thought maybe there was a new go to or large trusted source. Maybe somebody with at least an updated website, you know what I mean. But I’m checking the list of dealers you mentioned. Thanks.

 

[Surf Master]

Lets Dig It

Agree, once a week i check fishers site , hope they were to give us some new's, it hasn't changed one bit counterfits , and a F44 available for China , here ya go http://www.fisherlab.com/new-events.htm , pretty sad , and disapointing, for people waiting , at least ML keep's you guessing PS i am getting one before Craig make's me get a Gold Slumpy Tattoo howboutit PS Rick can you throw out some chum for us wanting , i think we might starve by the time it get's here

 

[dewcon]

I totally get NDAs....the price of being in the know. I also understand the need to know having had a high security clearance myself. These guys that design or are in the know are interesting to talk to. Lot of knowledge...lot of passion. Any water machine will pay for itself. Some of us bought the CTX and even the aquasound ($3000). This one won’t be any different some will pay the price regardless. Who don’t want a machine as good as an Eric Foster with some real upgrades. This is one of those must haves for those hunting in the water or wet sand.

 

[Cfmct]

Found it! Here's where I got that $2,100-2,500 price range. Whether its Gospel or not is another story... (Look at bullet #10)

http://hobby-detecting.com/fisher-i...tal-discrimination-2019-novelty-first-photos/

Reading Dankowski's thread on this detector for months I do believe its going to be higher than the prices above...

They posted its a "niche" detector, its going to cost more than what is available today and not everyone is going to be able to afford it...

Well... just about everyone who is serious about beach hunting can afford the Excal, the CTX and so on...

You don't actually think these guys who have done all this work on this detector are going to give it away do you?

I'll stick with my gut...

For me it doesn't matter what it would cost.. because I can afford it.. but I am old school as Goldslumpy Earl has said.. I love my Excal its why haven't swallowed the koolaid and purchased a NOX...

 

[lytle78]

I will throw out no chum before it’s time...lol.

Nobody knows what this thing will cost. That statement is absolutely true if we talk about folks outside FT’s management.

It may even be true that FT’s management isn’t ready to decide on the pricing before the final priced bill of materials is available and pre-production models are done, qualifying the production process and determining the yield/scrap/rework statistics.

Having said all that, I think that the days of >$3000 metal detectors in the US market are over. There just isn’t enough return on investment from detecting to support those price levels any more here. Can the AQ change that by demonstrating gold jewelry recovery rates that justify “super” prices? I guess we will see.

This is standard procedure for a manufacturing operation.

 

[OBN]

I see the high price a good thing (In a Way) for the Bay area, many here find less then 4 gold rings a year so I don't see it being purchased like the Nox. My guess would be a few around will be watching me to see, but I thinking.....Of going silent on owner ship. May even stop ring daddy.

 

[Steve]

I see the high price a good thing (In a Way) for the Bay area, many here find less then 4 gold rings a year so I don't see it being purchased like the Nox. My guess would be a few around will be watching me to see, but I thinking.....Of going silent on owner ship. May even stop ring daddy.

Do what I do... wrap most of the detector in black electrical tape. If anyone asks its an ace150.
Even my headphones are covered in stickers.

 

[dewcon]

It funny you said that Joe, I’m seeing that with the MDT....no one wants much info to get out there. Come on now Joe it’s not all the machine.....you have mad skills and do the research. By the way I like watching all those rings you bring in on ring daddy. I paid for the MDT in 3 or 4 months easily.... so it’s not as much about the price tag as performance

 

[Surf Master]

Obn

How much is the AQ Loose Lips Sink Ships membership , I'm joining that club, Craig will never know , success will be top secret

 

[Cfmct]

How much is the AQ Loose Lips Sink Ships membership , I'm joining that club, Craig will never know , success will be top secret

Earl... the forum has a Captain Silver... can I make you a Captain as well?

I want to make you Captain Gold Slumpy... it fits you to a T no matter what machine you buy... you find no yellow

 

[brncofan]

Earl... the forum has a Captain Silver... can I make you a Captain as well?

I want to make you Captain Gold Slumpy... it fits you to a T no matter what machine you buy... you find no yellow

 

[Surf Master]

Cfm-ct Reply

December 31st 2019 , no gold , , but the year is not over , no Gold Slumpy Tattoo yet , Bronco Fan get him out hunting , I think the land scaping heat is getting to him . Ps if I find gold before Dec. 31st . Can I call you Captain Old School

 

[Lets_dig_it]

I found a video from IWA 2019 which mentions the price of the AQ at 128,000 Russian rubles, which comes to just under $2000 USD. Even if it was marked up for some reason in the USA, it couldn’t be much more.

But my Russian is rusty, I couldn’t tell if they were talking about guesses, estimations, or what.

 

[Surf Master]

Lets Dig It

Im All In , Joe it's lookin good

 

[Cfmct]

Anyone hear anything on the Pulse Devils release date?