Where is Garrett right now?

[Dflan83]

I am just wondering with all the new machines that have come out what Garrett is actually doing? Anyone have any wind of what they may be up to right now? I would have thought that the next in line of the apex series would have been out by now and we would be enjoying it along with the other new detector releases.

 

[Cherry Picker]

Garrett never has been a real loud voice in the metal detector business. They keep relatively low-key on their new technology and don't bang the gong on every new macine. They have always been in the mix but leave it to their detectors to drive their popularity. I'm hoping for something groundbreaking in the imaging department.

 

[bowwinkles]

Since they acquired Whites and got into their hidden technology I think they have had to re think all their old technology. The pinpointer TRX is one example. Maybe they will come up with a few extra bucks and put the X employees of Whites to work and get their train back on the tracks

 

[Dflan83]

Since they acquired Whites and got into their hidden technology I think they have had to re think all their old technology. The pinpointer TRX is one example. Maybe they will come up with a few extra bucks and put the X employees of Whites to work and get their train back on the tracks

I hope so. I'm about ready for a flagship detector purchase but i would rather not go d2 or manticore even though they are fine machines but rather support an American brand.

 

[Kansashunter]

No clue, they seem to always be lacking in technology.

 

[Cherry Picker]

I think several of the detector manufacturers had a go at some type of imaging technology. Garretts GTI2500 was a step in the right direction, but the lack of apparent interest by users let the tech fade. Target sizing could be a very useful feature I would think. Minelabs CTX started what I believe will be the driving force behind imaging technology. The 2D screen on the Manticore is a good example that users are interested and willing to give it a possible closer look, someone just needs to hit that right combination and imaging could be the next SMF.

 

[The Lama]

I hope so. I'm about ready for a flagship detector purchase but i would rather not go d2 or manticore even though they are fine machines but rather support an American brand.

That's exactly how i think i have kind of weird geopolitical views where i won't buy products from certain country's,luckily the Apex is really good for my beach hunting and i think a simple update going to full proportional audio would make it much better for dirt guys.What i think happens when you pull past a lower conductive target there can be a quick high tone on many detectors without full proportional audio which makes you do a quick resweep which gives you the illusion of not great target separation.

 

[too_pointer]

I am looking at my Garrett AT Pro, hanging on the wall, lol, Wireless phones, and a new Viper Coil for the woods. That certainly was a front runner for Garrett, for sometime, price was right, plus being waterproof to 10'. My bro-in-law probably wouldn't buy anything but Garrett. ( He is loyal, lol. ) I have had Minelabs, Pioneers and probably some I forgot. Wish I had more "new info " for you on what they are up to, if anything. I would like to know also, nice post. Best of luck in your future hunts. !
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[hoser]

They also just may be dumb like a Fox. They probably already have the needed tech, and are watching in the wings to see what the flurry of new type detectors are doing, how many problems or issues they are having, and keeping a close eye on the market. I would call it the Angler fish theory. They just sit and wait for the best opportunity to strike. I'm probably off base, but stranger things have happened. IMHO,you don't get as big as Garrett without a good market strategy in place.

 

[UT_Dave]

I would purely guess that recreational detecting just isn't that important to them. They've already missed the SMF gold rush that Minelab, Nokta and XP have cashed in on. The Axiom looks like a nice PI for the price and I'd like to get one this year maybe. But all in all, Garrett just doesn't seem too interested in the VLF market. And they don't have to be. I bet their walk through security detector sales make the recreational market seem like a fly speck.

- Dave

 

[Coin-Saver]

At this point I really don't care if there have something in the works or not. I would just like to be informed of IF they are doing anything. It might be in their best interest to at least touch base with the customers to let us all know if they do have any plans because at some point in the next 6 months I am going to spring for a new detector and if Garrett would let's say come out with some groundbreaking new tech like and imaging machine that does what nothing else does I'd consider that and wait. Like for most people though once I've bought one and that money is gone then it won't matter to me for quite awhile. come on Garrett. (MAGGA) Make a Garrett great again. Or at the least let us know you have something in the works.

 

[metaladdict]

I am afraid Garrett has lost interest.

 

[DIG5050]

There will always be enthusiasts for Garrett products because of their ruggedness, domestic facility, 3 yr. warranty and first class service after the sale. As far as new detectors go, a fairly recent interview with Steve Moore, Steve was asked and answered that a "new detector can't get here soon enough for me". From that, one could assume that they are working on a new detector to replace the AT(Max).

Garrett is in a good position to take the Apex, scale its ability up and/or down to create an AT(Apex) and an Ace variant two. This would be akin to the ML Exterra Pro, Nokta Score and Double Score. Then they could obsolete the AT single freq. series and the lower Ace lines, with the exception of maybe the lowest Ace detector for newbees or kids.

With the Apex's rechargeable LiPo battery, wireless audio, ergonomics and light weight all the right DNA is there. Plus, one benefit is the re-use of many current components in increased quantities lowering their prices to Garrett.

One possible obstacle in their path to higher performance is the use of passive coils on their VLF machines. As far as I know, they have no active electronics in their VLF coils, and in order to get more sensitivity with a higher signal-to-noise ratio they will almost have to put some of the front end electronics in the coil, like ML , Nokta and XP. I'm sure this would take additional design time in bringing forth a new higher end machine, i.e. where to make the separation with the circuitry and firmware, communication means from coil to the control box, coil tooling, etc.; maybe thats where some of the holdup resides.

A "new purchase" single freq. VLF market is next to nil for all but newbees. For us (and Garrett's) sake, let's hope whatever they do will happen soon as their other products have run out of momentum....

 

[The Lama]

I'm guessing the Axiom was way more successful than they imagined so that might have slowed down the release of the next one which i think will be the new At pro apex being waterproof and pro audio with additional frequency options as well as other features.Then i'm guessing the one after that will be the At max apex which share the carbon fibre body of the Axiom as well as some additional new features.

 

[DIG5050]

In that same interview, Steve Moore also said they focused on the gold prospecting detectorists needs, hence the GMT24K and the Axiom. So I assume they have been busy with those projects.

 

[mudwhale]

In the world we live in, Garrets biggest business is in physical security. This is Airports around the world, Government buildings, Railroad stations, Boarder crossings and about a thousand different places where people need to be monitored for guns, bombs or other contraband. Garret is up to their eyeballs in this and the hobby division just takes a back seat as far as innovation. WE, I mean, US, detectorists, probably number in the hundreds or less on these forums wanting something new from Garret. The reality is that they are still selling the hobbyist detectors to the folks that know the name Garret by the thousands. I have the ATMax and a Deus II. I like them both for different reasons.

 

[jmaclen]

I'm guessing the Axiom was way more successful than they imagined so that might have slowed down the release of the next one which i think will be the new At pro apex being waterproof and pro audio with additional frequency options as well as other features.Then i'm guessing the one after that will be the At max apex which share the carbon fibre body of the Axiom as well as some additional new features.

The pulse induction Axiom.....no need to guess, it is the nicest PI I have ever used. Extremely sensitive to small targets like small gold nuggets, plenty of depth on bigger targets, really nice iron audio function using the Axiom DD coils and by far the best design/build quality and ergonomics of any PI ever made and I have owned or used all of the Whites TDIs, Minelab SD to GPX PIs including the GPX 6000, Garrett ATX and some other obscure ones. Garrett absolutely got the Axiom right. It took awhile but the wait has been very worth it from my experience.

 

[Dflan83]

I'm sure the Axiom is a fine machine, but I dont think its meant to compete with the other hobby flagships like d2, manticore in that it is a pi machine meant for gold. I always forget about the security division, you are right that that is probably a lot bigger market share and it would make most sense that it would always come first. That being said tech is tech and if the R&D can transfer over to the hobby market, then i hope they are willing to make the attempt.

 

[jmaclen]

I'm sure the Axiom is a fine machine, but I dont think its meant to compete with the other hobby flagships like d2, manticore in that it is a pi machine meant for gold. I always forget about the security division, you are right that that is probably a lot bigger market share and it would make most sense that it would always come first. That being said tech is tech and if the R&D can transfer over to the hobby market, then i hope they are willing to make the attempt.

Axiom falls into the “other detectors” you mentioned in your original post. Sure it’s not in the same category as the Manticore or Deus 2 but I’ve used mine for deep relic hunting and deep coin hunting on turf and beach. When my D2 or Manticore won’t hit a target the Axiom will.

 

[oldkoot]

The pulse induction Axiom.....no need to guess, it is the nicest PI I have ever used. Extremely sensitive to small targets like small gold nuggets, plenty of depth on bigger targets, really nice iron audio function using the Axiom DD coils and by far the best design/build quality and ergonomics of any PI ever made and I have owned or used all of the Whites TDIs, Minelab SD to GPX PIs including the GPX 6000, Garrett ATX and some other obscure ones. Garrett absolutely got the Axiom right. It took awhile but the wait has been very worth it from my experience.

I agree 100% with what you stated about the Axiom it is absolutely a well thought out PI detector, the 24K is also another example of a great VLF Gold detector, like many others I am waiting on Garrett to come out with a SMF detector, because up until just recently I have not been happy with the SMF detector I do own, although my issues with the Legend seem to have finally been resolved, if Garrett comes out with a SMF I will most definitely purchase one

The Axiom is my first dive into a high end PI and I am extremely happy with it, and the Garrett/Whites GM 24K I am pretty set on detectors for nugget detecting, but having said that I would love for Garrett to come out with a SMF which I believe they can do with a little tweaking of the APEX, and water proofing, carbon fiber stems like the Axiom, in fact they could put it in the Axiom control pod, and Axiom stems and they would have a good to great SMF detector, I do not need a fully water proof detector since I do not go into water with any of my detectors, rain proof is all I need.