Notka's two new detectors..

[oldkoot]

Oh..I'm confused: "The company has just announced two new simultaneous multi-frequency machines named “SCORE” and “DOUBLE SCORE" It says simultaneous multi-frequency..? Thoughts?

your confused, join the club

people that have replied to this thread have confused everything I can only imagine what a newbie just coming in and reading this thread would think, people calling SMF (selectable single frequency) and other things that were stated that were so far off the beaten path it would confuse anyone

 

[oldkoot]

Oh sheesh, looks like another baseball bat sized pinpointer from Nokta

I was thinking the same thing, it looks just like the Pulse Dive that comes in the 2 in 1 kit

 

[Diga]

your confused, join the club

people that have replied to this thread have confused everything I can only imagine what a newbie just coming in and reading this thread would think, people calling SMF (selectable single frequency) and other things that were stated that were so far off the beaten path it would confuse anyone

MF is not the same as SMF, so what's so confusing? Also, both Dilek and the other rep said numerous times that the Scores are MF, not SMF.

What's so far off the beaten path, and who called SMF selectable single frequency?

 

[Diga]

In hindsight, I can see how SMF and MF can be confusing. Especially when manufacturers don't have standards to describe such, and even more so when most SMF detectors are also capable of MF. Again, it wouldn't be confusing if the manufacturers used the term "Selectable Single Frequencies" instead of "Multi Frequency".

 

[oldkoot]

In hindsight, I can see how SMF and MF can be confusing. Especially when manufacturers don't have standards to describe such, and even more so when most SMF detectors are also capable of MF. Again, it wouldn't be confusing if the manufacturers used the term "Selectable Single Frequencies" instead of "Multi Frequency".

DIG you are the one that seems to me is confusing the two SMF stands for Simultaneous Multi Frequency, which Nokta calls the Legend SMF, you keep referring to SMF as selectable single frequency which its not selectable single frequency has multiple frequencies like the Xterra Pro has three frequencies but you can only select one of those frequencies at a time to detect in that is why its called (Selectable Single Frequency) (SSF) meaning you can only select one frequency of the ones available for use, SMF you can select Multi Frequency or one of 5 different frequencies to run in SF (single frequency) operation

SMF and MF are the same thing.

 

[Diga]

DIG you are the one that seems to me is confusing the two SMF stands for Simultaneous Multi Frequency, which Nokta calls the Legend SMF, you keep referring to SMF as selectable single frequency which its not.

(My underline)

I'm well aware of what SMF stands for, and also know that the X-Terra is not SMF.

Also, you misread my posts, because I never referred to SMF as selectable single frequency. What I did say, was that most SMF detectors are also capable of using single frequencies.

 

[oldkoot]

(My underline)

I'm well aware of what SMF stands for, and also know that the X-Terra is not SMF.

Also, you misread my posts, because I never referred to SMF as selectable single frequency. What I did say, was that most SMF detectors are also capable of using single frequencies.

If I misread your replies then I apologize, this whole thread and some of the replies seemed to me to confuse the differences between SMF (Multi Frequency) and SSF (Selectable Single Frequency)

 

[oldkoot]

MF is not the same as SMF, so what's so confusing? Also, both Dilek and the other rep said numerous times that the Scores are MF, not SMF.

What's so far off the beaten path, and who called SMF selectable single frequency?

so explain to me the differences between MF (Multi Frequency) and SMF (Simultaneous Multi Frequency) because to me they both pretty much mean the same unless I am completely mis understanding the meanings of both, which could very well be.

 

[AccurateCalls]

Ah the joys of clarifying nomenclature.

I vote we call the detectors, Fixed Single Sine Wave Oscillators (FSSWO), Multiple Selectable Single Sine Wave Oscillators (MSSSWO), and Multi-Period Rectangular Wave & Multiple Selectable Single Sine Wave Oscillator Combo (MPRWMSSSWOC).

 

[Diga]

so explain to me the differences between MF (Multi Frequency) and SMF (Simultaneous Multi Frequency) because to me they both pretty much mean the same unless I am completely mis understanding the meanings of both, which could very well be.

The difference is that MF, doesn't by necessity, mean that frequencies are utilized simultaneously. Which is precisely why SSF detectors (like the X-Terra Pro) are never referred to as SMF.

 

[oldkoot]

Ah the joys of clarifying nomenclature.

I vote we call the detectors, Fixed Single Sine Wave Oscillators (FSSWO), Multiple Selectable Single Sine Wave Oscillators (MSSSWO), and Multi-Period Rectangular Wave & Multiple Selectable Single Sine Wave Oscillator Combo (MPRWMSSSWOC).

you really want to confuse everyone LOL

 

[AccurateCalls]

you really want to confuse everyone LOL

Haha, but seriously, I do see people use MF and SMF sort of interchangeably. Natural languages are full of inaccuracies and inconsistencies. I can understand why people hear Multi-Frequency and assume it is referring to a SMF or a MPRWMSSSWOC detector.

 

[Valley Hunter]

I think the Score's are going to be like the Vanquish .. ONLY Multi .. NO selective freq

 

[stetam]

Why would you want one? The Legend, a proven quality detector that can be "turn on and go" is under $500

Steve

 

[Diga]

Why would you want one? The Legend, a proven quality detector that can be "turn on and go" is under $500

Steve

I thought the same.

Then again, they say "under $500", but $500 can be very different depending on the type of currency. Also, I would think they're talking MSRP, and that is typically higher than what dealers sell for.

 

[metaladdict]

I think the Score's are going to be like the Vanquish .. ONLY Multi .. NO selective freq

The scores are just multi frequency.

 

[oldkoot]

Why would you want one? The Legend, a proven quality detector that can be "turn on and go" is under $500

Steve

I want something that works and rite now the Legend is not working for me at all, but I am not interested in the Score or Double Score, Xterra Pro, or any of the New Simplex models

I am how ever interested in Nokta's new PI (Pulse Induction) when it comes out which is what I was hoping this announcement would have been, instead of more VLF's

Neither of my Legends have ran the same since I installed 1.11 on them, give me back 1.10 Beta Test version 3 and I would probably be a happy camper.

 

[oldkoot]

I thought the same.

Then again, they say "under $500", but $500 can be very different depending on the type of currency. Also, I would think they're talking MSRP, and that is typically higher than what dealers sell for.

which means what $499.99 is under $500, bring them out cheaper than the Xterra Pro $269. which is under $300 include headphones and then you have a great deal on another entry level detector

 

[Diga]

which means what $499.99 is under $500, bring them out cheaper than the Xterra Pro $269. which is under $300 include headphones and then you have a great deal on another entry level detector

Until we see the dealer's prices, then it's all just speculation. Also, that $269 doesn't include the Minelab headphones. I think they're what? About $150?

But ya, something like $269 without headphones, and $350 with headphones would be good.

 

[Xxray]

Nokta's main pinpointers are the Nokta Pointer, the Pulse Dive, and now the Accupoint.

The Nokta Pointer and the Accupoint are the about the same size as every other pinpointer. The Pulse Dive is larger, because it can convert from a regular pinpointer to a diving metal detector with a 5.5" or 8" coil. I suspect the larger size is due to the additional circuitry, and a larger than normal battery to power the coils.

accupoint looks to me about the same size as the pulse, which I own