New equinox update incoming?

[mh9162013]

OK, I understand. I considered an 800 but don't think it would do anything my 600 doesn't already do.

Steve

For my hunting style and level of experience, the 600 is more than enough for me, too. I'd gladly take an 800, but not for an extra $300!

 

[Diabolik]

I'm curious why you want an 800 when you have a 600? What is the benefit if you're a dirt only hunter?

Steve

I want to be able to adjust my tone breaks and volumes. Mainly for nickels. In trashy areas it is way to hard to pick them out with the 600 because they sound like everything else unless you want to walk around staring at the display all day. I hunt with markinswpa (who uses an 800) all the time and I can tell you this makes a difference. I have no doubt I am missing some targets with the 600. As far as being a better detector, I've never seen anything that both the 600 and 800 would not see and we compare targets all the time. It is really just a matter of being able to single them out.

 

[Pete e]

OK, I understand. I considered an 800 but don't think it would do anything my 600 doesn't already do.

Steve

I think it's the inclusion of the the wireless headset that sways many people away from the 600 to the 800.

However with the availability of cheap aftermarket wireless headsets, that's probably not the factor it was once....

 

[mh9162013]

I want to be able to adjust my tone breaks and volumes. Mainly for nickels. In trashy areas it is way to hard to pick them out with the 600 because they sound like everything else unless you want to walk around staring at the display all day. I hunt with markinswpa (who uses an 800) all the time and I can tell you this makes a difference. I have no doubt I am missing some targets with the 600. As far as being a better detector, I've never seen anything that both the 600 and 800 would not see and we compare targets all the time. It is really just a matter of being able to single them out.

Minelab 800s are flooding the used market right now...and when the Deus II becomes more widely available, the flooding will only get "worse." Might be a good time to upgrade if you're willing to get a used machine.

 

[Diabolik]

Minelab 800s are flooding the used market right now...and when the Deus II becomes more widely available, the flooding will only get "worse." Might be a good time to upgrade if you're willing to get a used machine.

Yes, I'm keeping my eyes open for a nice clean one. I have no problems buying a used one as I bought my 600 used. I am sure there will be a few that jump ship.

 

[Diabolik]

I think it's the inclusion of the the wireless headset that sways many people away from the 600 to the 800.

However with the availability of cheap aftermarket wireless headsets, that's probably not the factor it was once....

I find it funny that Minelab includes the WM-08 module with the 800's and it seems like few guys use them. I own two of them and it is all I use on my 600. I have also used the ML-80 headphones and still prefer the WM-08 for speed and overall sound quality. Being able to use any headphones you want is a bonus as the seasons and conditions change.

 

[Pete e]

I find it funny that Minelab includes the WM-08 module with the 800's and it seems like few guys use them. I own two of them and it is all I use on my 600. I have also used the ML-80 headphones and still prefer the WM-08 for speed and overall sound quality. Being able to use any headphones you want is a bonus as the seasons and conditions change.

You are right..I have had my 800 about 3 years or so, and have never used the WM-08 unit until very recently but when I did try I did not have much luck pairing it in the field...

I bought a set of full cup wired headphones to use in windy/noisy conditions but could not get the WM-08 to pair to try them.

I tried several times with no success...tried them again when I got home and they paired first time! I must have been doing something wrong in the field so will try again next time I am out...

 

[Diabolik]

You are right..I have had my 800 about 3 years or so, and have never used the WM-08 unit until very recently but when I did try I did not have much luck pairing it in the field...

I bought a set of full cup wired headphones to use in windy/noisy conditions but could not get the WM-08 to pair to try them.

I tried several times with no success...tried them again when I got home and they paid first time! I must have been doing something wrong in the field so will try again next time I am out...

Yeah you should not have any trouble pairing them together. Once paired they will connect almost instantly going forward. I think you can pair up to 4 modules to one detector if I remember correctly?

 

[Pete e]

I think you can pair up to 4 modules to one detector if I remember correctly?

Yes I think so and it's good if you are trying to teach/coach a youngster..

Alternatively, I have been told you can also use wired headphones into the back of the pod, plus a second set of headphones via the WM-08 although I have not tried this myself....

 

[longbow62]

Minelab 800s are flooding the used market right now...and when the Deus II becomes more widely available, the flooding will only get "worse." Might be a good time to upgrade if you're willing to get a used machine.

You have to be a pretty hard core metal detecting hobbyist to drop $1599 0n a detector. I fall into that category. If your a beach hunter or hunt mainly in iron laden sites then from what I have seen the Deus II is the way to go if you can handle the price. I'm still not convinced on dry land on trashy sites with modern aluminum junk it's an Equinox killer. Have not seen a video yet of anyone hunting a setting where the Deus II is finding good targets in trash and is calling trash for what it is, and picking out coins amongst it.

It may be great at it, but no one is posting yard or park hunting videos of them doing it. Just seems odd as I figure most people hunt yards and public dry land sites.

 

[Rad1sh]

I am very interested in the Deus II. I just need it to WOW me over my Equinox 800. I really like the results and performance my 800 provides. I am pretty sure I will end up with a Deus II, I just dont feel the need to sell my nox yet. I will wait and see live hunts and word of mouth here in a few months. I also do not see ,uch else an update can give us.

 

[woodbutcher]

For my hunting style and level of experience, the 600 is more than enough for me, too. I'd gladly take an 800, but not for an extra $300!

When I had the 800 I was giving nickel a hightone,and everything from around 20 and up a hightone..I was going back over sites with other machines that didn't have the tone break/ pitch adjustment features.. and I was finding alot of cool tokens, jewelry,etc. .Big eye opener for me on what you leave behind when you do the nickel hightone thing .

 

[mh9162013]

When I had the 800 I was giving nickel a hightone,and everything from around 20 and up a hightone..I was going back over sites with other machines that didn't have the tone break/ pitch adjustment features.. and I was finding alot of cool tokens, jewelry,etc. .Big eye opener for me on what you leave behind when you do the nickel hightone thing .

Yeah, after reading about that, I'm wondering what I'm missing with my 600 over the 800.

With an AT Max, there's no way I could look for nickels or similarly toned items unless I was in a tot lot. With the 600, I can hunt for nickels and related signals. However, I have to look at my screen a lot more instead of just waiting to hear the right tone (I hunt with 5 tones). But if I could designate 12/13/14 as high tones (or "next-to-high" tones), then I'd definitely be finding more nickels...and maybe more jewelry, too.

 

[woodbutcher]

Yeah, after reading about that, I'm wondering what I'm missing with my 600 over the 800.

With an AT Max, there's no way I could look for nickels or similarly toned items unless I was in a tot lot. With the 600, I can hunt for nickels and related signals. However, I have to look at my screen a lot more instead of just waiting to hear the right tone (I hunt with 5 tones). But if I could designate 12/13/14 as high tones (or "next-to-high" tones), then I'd definitely be finding more nickels...and maybe more jewelry, too.

Why not just notch all numbers you don’t want out.

 

[mh9162013]

Why not just notch all numbers you don’t want out.

Because I don't like notching anything out unless I have to (to avoid possible masking).

The only thing I consistently notch out is iron (using Park 1 or Park 2). But to help compensate, I have F2 (not Fe) set to 0.

 

[stetam]

My opinion is no update is needed. People mess with settings too much and lower the potential of the Nox. I only run park 1 or field 2, noise cancel, ground balance and just adjust sensitivity to suit the soil. No need to mess with recovery speed. Just run slow you will find deep targets even in trashy areas.

Steve

 

[GreenMeanie]

If Minelab had something up their sleeves I would think they would drop the bomb now to stop some of the heat from the deus II and legend.
They have been pretty quite lately.

 

[Diabolik]

My opinion is no update is needed. People mess with settings too much and lower the potential of the Nox. I only run park 1 or field 2, noise cancel, ground balance and just adjust sensitivity to suit the soil. No need to mess with recovery speed. Just run slow you will find deep targets even in trashy areas.

Steve

I am pretty much in the same boat as you. I hunt a lot of trashy parks. I always end up back in Park 1 most days running it as hot as the area will tolerate. That mode has seemed to click the best for me and I am finding more now then I have been so I have to stick with what works. For most of the old coins I have found, depth was no issue. Location has been everything.

 

[mh9162013]

If Minelab had something up their sleeves I would think they would drop the bomb now to stop some of the heat from the deus II and legend.
They have been pretty quite lately.

I don't think it's fair (or logical) to conclude that just b/c Minelab isn't making an update about a new product or tech development right now it must mean they don't have anything in the works.

 

[GreenMeanie]

I don't think it's fair (or logical) to conclude that just b/c Minelab isn't making an update about a new product or tech development right now it must mean they don't have anything in the works.

I never said they didn't have anything in the works.