New Minelab Equinox

[masterjedi]

12/46 Silver 12/12 Nickle ** SO AWESOME **

Yes, the 12/42 etc. 12=ferrous/42=conductive. Those 2 sets of numbers give you huge amounts of information. It's one reason why these machines are known for excellent target ID. Those numbers also keep you from digging as much trash as other machines. It is one of the things that makes Etrac/CTX 3030 so great. Like I said, I can't imagine hunting without them, unless they've come up with something better.

I will buy one just for a great backup unit to my Etrac and CTX. Also I can let my grandson use it.

I also find the FE/CO numbers one of the best things about my Etrac and CTX. I dig less trash than ever with these machines due to target ID accuracy using these numbers.

Target trace pinpoint and the target cursor are also great tools for target ID on my CTX.

I wont be selling my CTX anytime soon

But this machine is going to shake up The Deus, Garrett AT Max, Whites MX Sport, etc...

Great job Minelab !

Gary from Oregon

 

[calabash digger]

I don't use a fbs machine but thinking about a multi freq machine for relics well it will have some advantages if it handles iron. If I can hunt a site in multiple freq at one time and it handles iron and has good depth well its a new game for us. imo

 

[tnsharpshooter]

I don't use a fbs machine but thinking about a multi freq machine for relics well it will have some advantages if it handles iron. If I can hunt a site in multiple freq at one time and it handles iron and has good depth well its a new game for us. imo

Don't think this will happen with multi freq.
Time factor,,takes time with freq changes.

This is one of the whys IMO of having the single freqs options.

Multi freq, likely better performer in salt water/ sand environment, maybe better performer in modern trash site.

Enter iron- don't think so.

But time will tell.

Also will be interesting to see when running detector in iron using multi freq, how does running reactivity speed up,,,how much does it actually help (get close to single freq operation ((higher freq)) ) ?
And is there a separation at depth loss using multi freq (faster Reactivty setting) vs single freq operation?

 

[NectarDetector]

That looks like a pieced together piece of imo...

i cant believe the hype seasoned detectorists are putting around this thing. Looks cheap, probably a hyped xterra and lmao at people saying the 3030 gonna be replaced by, this... it looks like a gofind60 with straight shaft n shows none of minelabs best features.

Then as far as multifreq.... will it be like 3030 where some freq just cancel out the ground so you wonr be running a true multi freq machine. My call this this is a gofind 60 for big kids! When hype dies down like all the other "game changers" weve seen through the years we`ll be on to the next machines thats best ever, seen it every 6 mos on the forum. Looks like a knock off of a quest n gofind, n people losing their minds, lol

Oh yeah some guy on youtube said this or that, gitta be true n not marketing ploys lol

Count me outtttt

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Well if Minelab actually did plan and succeeded in dropping a Go Find out of an airplane at a worldly advertised event for showing,,,they need help big time.

I don't think any detector manufacturer is this stupid to do some thing like this with a subpar outfit.

Maybe I am wrong.

I sure wouldn't want to bet against myself here.

Very, very orchestrated with what they did.
Btw, this is the same company responsible for making the beloved coinshooters, Etrac, explorer, CTX.

 

[SavingThePast]

that looks like a pieced together piece of imo...

I cant believe the hype seasoned detectorists are putting around this thing. Looks cheap, probably a hyped xterra and lmao at people saying the 3030 gonna be replaced by, this... It looks like a gofind60 with straight shaft n shows none of minelabs best features.

Then as far as multifreq.... Will it be like 3030 where some freq just cancel out the ground so you wonr be running a true multi freq machine. My call this this is a gofind 60 for big kids! When hype dies down like all the other "game changers" weve seen through the years we`ll be on to the next machines thats best ever, seen it every 6 mos on the forum. Looks like a knock off of a quest n gofind, n people losing their minds, lol

oh yeah some guy on youtube said this or that, gitta be true n not marketing ploys lol

count me outtttt

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[tnsharpshooter]

Nectar,
You can remain the At Pro and even the At Max protector, promoter, defender.

What I want to know who here is going to be Nectar's equivalent here as far as Equinox?

And a year or so from now, which person will be "Conductor" of the bigger train?

Funnin with you Nectar.
But there could be a fast moving train approaching soon.

 

[Ice Scratcher]

The blaring thing that I don't like is the way the coil cable is just sticking out of the back and so close to the grip. I could see if you didn't have the cable wrapped just perfectly that you could accidentally grab it and potentially.

See page 4...

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[NectarDetector]

Nectar,
You can remain the At Pro and even the At Max protector, promoter, defender.

What I want to know who here is going to be Nectar's equivalent here as far as Equinox?

And a year or so from now, which person will be "Conductor" of the bigger train?

Funnin with you Nectar.
But there could be a fast moving train approaching soon.

My opinions are documented here, I did that for a reason so I can come back in a year and be the conductor....lmao whatever conductor even means lmao

 

[Coin Operated]

I agree with you for the most part.
Except this detector was aimed more at the whole market in general.
All competitors.

I guess the question that needs to be asked,,what was XP's target (manufacturer) wise when they designed and engineered Deus?

XP's target was the European market, who, for the most part, don't really care what the target is as long as it's not iron. I expect the Equinox was aimed about the same. Look where it was introduced to great fanfare (not in the US which is a little strange if you think about it). But Minelab was hammered by the Deus in Europe so......

 

[tnsharpshooter]

XP's target was the European market, who, for the most part, don't really care what the target is as long as it's not iron. I expect the Equinox was aimed about the same. Look where it was introduced to great fanfare (not in the US which is a little strange if you think about it). But Minelab was hammered by the Deus in Europe so......

I think Minelab hammered by XP in USA too.
Weight thingy.

Been seeing a lot of folks on forums say they have new Deus units in last year.
Minelab is in the game now, where many targets (models of detectors) were studied.
The waterproof thingy, and if this detector performs using multi freq in salt water/sand,,,will sell loads for how much they cost.

Was there a similar like venue inside USA even scheduled for possible unveiling of Equinox? Similar/same time frame?

Not like Minelab would have held their own dedicated thingy.
That would have looked braggish.
They did the right thing IMO.

 

[NectarDetector]

I think Minelab hammered by XP in USA too.
Weight thingy.

Been seeing a lot of folks on forums say they have new Deus units in last year.
Minelab is in the game now, where many targets (models of detectors) were studied.
The waterproof thingy, and if this detector performs using multi freq in salt water/sand,,,will sell loads for how much they cost.

Was there a similar like venue inside USA even scheduled for possible unveiling of Equinox? Similar/same time frame?

Not like Minelab would have held their own dedicated thingy.
That would have looked braggish.
They did the right thing IMO.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Will be interesting to seehowit plays out

I will try to get one asap.
Report on.
Question is will smaller coils than stock be ready for sales up front, or will there be a delay.
Would try to at least do a coil size to coil size test/comparison.


Compare to Deus, CTX, Impact.

 

[Coin Operated]

I don't know if they will offer smaller coils or not but the need for one is much less with a really fast recovery.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

This thread could go over 50,000 hits real quick.
Especially if actual purchases of Equinox post in this thread.
Or tester you tubes find their way in here.

The price(s) of the units are the cause.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Will be interesting to hear about,,,if a person purchases 600 model, is the 600 unit wireless capable??
If so,,how much do the wireless headphones module cost.

So we have a total package price to compare to the competition.

 

[JackalopeZL1]

So far after thinking about these machines and what they have described I think minelab has listened pretty good assuming they perform as advertised. I know in the past I have said I would love to see a mix of the deus speed and the etrac/ctx capabilities as well as being lighter. Something you could turn on and off giving us the normal performance of the ctx but in that heavy trash are you can flip the switch and run in a fast mode.. That appears to be what they have done for a good portion of the machine. Hope it works as advertised.

So here are my conclusions as to what it still needs to be the perfect machine, Lets call it the Equinox 1000 or 1200
#1...Give us the ferrous reading that we all know is a very valuable tool. All the experienced etrac and ctx owners know that is one of many awesome tools that help save time and improve efficiency in the field. You will get more buy over from the CTX and ETRAC crowd
#2...Integrated wireless headphones instead of the separate "module style" The module works awesome but garret and obviously Deus have been able to do it. Makes a cleaner set up
#3...Internal shaft coil wire, I actually prefer having a coil wire instead of the coil being wireless(underwater coil operation) but it cleans up the machine. I am sure they went back to external for the weight savings aspect. I can live with this to keep the machine smaller, lighter.
#4... External pinpoint button like the CTX. This keeps the controls clean and it is very convenient.

I am sure many will disagree but this is what I would like to see. I give kudos to minelab for actually coming up with something newer and making it somewhat more affordable. they will sell a lot fo these machines if they perform well.

I do not agree that multi frequencies have to take time. I equate it to this. Look at a old 486 computer. It was only capable of running a low quality video if one at all. Now look at your most recent computer. It can run the highest definition video out there. The hardware and software have been improved allowing this. There is no reason why this won't be happening in the metal detector world, Is it the case with this machine? Well time will tell but don't just make generalization and automatically limit what is very much capable.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

So far after thinking about these machines and what they have described I think minelab has listened pretty good assuming they perform as advertised. I know in the past I have said I would love to see a mix of the deus speed and the etrac/ctx capabilities as well as being lighter. Something you could turn on and off giving us the normal performance of the ctx but in that heavy trash are you can flip the switch and run in a fast mode.. That appears to be what they have done for a good portion of the machine. Hope it works as advertised.

So here are my conclusions as to what it still needs to be the perfect machine, Lets call it the Equinox 1000 or 1200
#1...Give us the ferrous reading that we all know is a very valuable tool. All the experienced etrac and ctx owners know that is one of many awesome tools that help save time and improve efficiency in the field. You will get more buy over from the CTX and ETRAC crowd
#2...Integrated wireless headphones instead of the separate "module style" The module works awesome but garret and obviously Deus have been able to do it. Makes a cleaner set up
#3...Internal shaft coil wire, I actually prefer having a coil wire instead of the coil being wireless(underwater coil operation) but it cleans up the machine. I am sure they went back to external for the weight savings aspect. I can live with this to keep the machine smaller, lighter.
#4... External pinpoint button like the CTX. This keeps the controls clean and it is very convenient.

I am sure many will disagree but this is what I would like to see. I give kudos to minelab for actually coming up with something newer and making it somewhat more affordable. they will sell a lot fo these machines if they perform well.

I do not agree that multi frequencies have to take time. I equate it to this. Look at a old 486 computer. It was only capable of running a low quality video if one at all. Now look at your most recent computer. It can run the highest definition video out there. The hardware and software have been improved allowing this. There is no reason why this won't be happening in the metal detector world, Is it the case with this machine? Well time will tell but don't just make generalization and automatically limit what is very much capable.

My only reason for the " taking time comment".
I don't know of one single multi freq unit built (where multifreq are used, not like Impact where it is optional to select freqs) to date that is stellar performing as far as separation in and around iron.
Single freqs solo (higher) seems to be the stellar ones.
But maybe Minelab has cracked the code so to speak.

Would be nice, but if this were the case, why did they give user single freq option to use to detect?

 

[JackalopeZL1]

My only reason for the " taking time comment".
I don't know of one single multi freq unit built (where multifreq are used, not like Impact where it is optional to select freqs) to date that is stellar performing as far as separation in and around iron.
Single freqs solo (higher) seems to be the stellar ones.
But maybe Minelab has cracked the code so to speak.

Would be nice, but if this were the case, why did they give user single freq option to use to detect?

I do not disagree that this is the way the machines work now. You are correct in that aspect for sure. I believe like with all technology it is just a matter of time before they have a multi frequency that is deus single frequency fast. Is it this machine? No idea and I wouldn't be surprised if not for that fact you bring up with the option of going single frequency.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

I do not disagree that this is the way the machines work now. You are correct in that aspect for sure. I believe like with all technology it is just a matter of time before they have a multi frequency that is deus single frequency fast. Is it this machine? No idea and I wouldn't be surprised if not for that fact you bring up with the option of going single frequency.

Having a detector good in and around iron.

A couple things needs to happen as far a tech breakthrough.
Either less or the same amount of date is gathered as before but processing can recognize targets as nonferrous with maybe even less information.

Or more data is acquired, and processed ( could be faster) than previous models.
But frequency drives the amount of possible different information over a smaller span of time. (Could be considered splitting hairs, but this hair splitting can be a go or no go on a target).
Or a combination of both above.

Sorta like herding sheep through gate.
Only so many will go through at a time.
So we either widen the gate, or figure out a way to make actual sheep smaller and or speed up the sheep to get more through.

For example 5khz is really dead on deep nickel really,,so if 5khz was being time shared on a nickel,,could it be considered wasted time?? Valuable time too really.

One thing here.
Folks may assume since their detector is not giving tone, that no nonferrous targets are under coil.
Is this totally true?
We only get audio usually, so we don't know what is being felt by the processor in detector.
If the processor is giving no go commands for audio,,,we are none the wise metal exist under coil.
Or processor gives wrong command tone wise,,like iron tone where target is deeper yet nonferrous.
Or a heavily masked target near iron,,,just not enough data for processor to be sure hence signals only on the ferrous.

Yesterday I witnessed this using Deus HF elliptical coil where .deus LF coils have lived a whole lot.

Tell you what I think.
The dedicated Etrac and CTX users who a relic hunters especially, if they buy the 800 model,,and start hunting some of their supposed busted out sites,,,these dedicated CTxers, etracers,,,eyes are fixing to be opened. Especially using smaller coil on Equinox 800 running higher single freq.

I may be wrong too.
Again I wouldn't want to bet against myself.