Higher cost VS lower cost detectors

Again TNS, you can't even address my basic points about tonal nuance. Instead, you just double down on your meaningless talk.
Let me share a story with you. Maybe you will understand.
A bud of mine and me use to go over to this old hotel grounds. It was booming 1900-1940. Lot of high rollers came there.
He would use his Fisher F5 and get over a target that read coin ID and say boy this sounds good and reads good. I would take my deus 1 over and sweep and listen. Yeah I looked at ID but more importantly listened to the audio. I would say junk. He would disagree. I would walk off, and turn around few minutes later and say what was it. His reply junk. This happened countless times. Again the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Remember Deus 1.

Junk targets have twangy audio. Blotchy Sounding.
Coins and rings. It’s almost like you can hear the coil approaching those with deus 2. Smooth on edges and will rise and fall quick. Not flat sounding audio wise. Audio nuance is there alright. Heck even using the monoprogram single freq on deus 2. But deus 2 gives both better ID along with the sizzle. Deus 1 ID not as good as deus 2.

Now how does Xp do what they do with Deus 1 and Deus 2 to go there much nuance? You got me.
Fascinating to use and witness. I know this much. I started using deus 1 in 2013 and used it shxt loads.
 
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It's no big deal.The single freq Atpro which i prefer to use on dry sand gives you clues on equal conductivity but different shapes i get a pretty good idea on the size and shape based on tonal clues but on sand of course i'm digging that aluminum anyway
 
I am sharing good info. That’s all. And I got better things to do with my time that just make things up.
 
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I am sharing good info. That’s all.
I gave example scenarios to show how tonal nuance doesn't even matter. You chose to repeatedly ignore those examples. Furthermore, you haven't even given one example of how the tonal nuance on the D2 would be any more beneficial in my examples, or any scenario for that matter, compared to the D2's competition.
 
When a hunter is looking for gold jewelry, they typically dig everything. So, if the hunter is digging everything, then audio doesn't matter.

Well, this is wrong in principle. Many detectors have iron issues. I try my best as a beach hunter to get a detector that correctly identifies iron. Skipping some Pulltabs may be important too. A detector that id's iron easy lets you move faster to cover more ground/beach giving someone higher yields.
 
You seem to be trying to conflate. Gold jewelry vs gold rings. Ring shaped targets and coins with deus 2 sound different vs over lot of junk.
Can depth diminish Deus 2 abilities? Yep.
But deeper targets will give weaker signals.
Good deus 2 user with trained ear, won’t be getting hung up on the 6” and shallower bs.
I know you find this hard to believe.

You see Deus 2 has an additional form of discrimination - depending. Hmm
 
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Well, this is wrong in principle. Many detectors have iron issues. I try my best as a beach hunter to get a detector that correctly identifies iron. Skipping some Pulltabs may be important too. A detector that id's iron easy lets you move faster to cover more ground/beach giving someone higher yields.
When I said a jewelry hunter is digging it all, I assumed that everyone knew I meant digging all the nonferrous targets. I never imagined that when I said digging it all, someone would think I meant digging the ferrous trash 🙄.

And ya, there are occasions that skipping some "definite" pull tab IDs may be beneficial, but that has nothing to do with my points about tonal nuance.
 
You have LOTS of preconceived thoughts on hunting Gold Jewlery. You clearly are not experienced in this area and should not defend something you do not fully understand.
You clearly have a reading comprehension problem.
 
You seem to be trying to conflate. Gold jewelry vs gold rings. Ring shaped targets and coins with deus 2 sound different vs over lot of junk.
Do you see any D2 beach hunters saying, "Not digging this, because it sounds like foil" Or, "Not digging this, because it sounds like a pulltab". Of course you don't see that, because that foil and pulltab sound, could just as well be a gold ring or other type of gold jewelry.
 
When I said a jewelry hunter is digging it all, I assumed that everyone knew I meant digging all the nonferrous targets. I never imagined that when I said digging it all, someone would think I meant digging the ferrous trash 🙄.

You highlight your inexperience. Have you ever seen a beach hunters total finds. I have and some of them are people with iron infested finds that outnumber their nonferrous finds. They either lack the experience or detector. Your "high cost" VS low cost is a silly argument you cannot stand on.
Conditions at the beach even dictate what detector I am going to use. Now, just owning the Nox 800 and Deus2, there are conditions which each one is better suited.
Just come out and say what "cheap" detector you think can beat those? In my opinion, whatever detector you decide to walk on the beach where I hunt on, you best bring your A game. :cool3:
 
As far as dirt hunting goes,,To date the only machine I've used that I can actually tell a silver coin from a clad coin is a fbs machine, and thats the audio not the visual..never had a manicore but I doubt it can tell a silver from a clad any better than a D2 or legend...I can take a D2,legend or nox and work a junk signal into a great sounding coin .. You can't do that with fbs, work that junk signal as long as you want, it'll always call it junk..
The price vs performance is a big factor for probably 3/4 of the playing field in this Hobbie. And imo the Legend is the best bang for the buck, and nipping at the heels of everything else that's 3 xs the price
 
Do you see any D2 beach hunters saying, "Not digging this, because it sounds like foil" Or, "Not digging this, because it sounds like a pulltab". Of course you don't see that, because that foil and pulltab sound, could just as well be a gold ring or other type of gold jewelry.

I suggest you go near a deus 2 and let a trained/experienced user give you some demos. Eye opening for you I’m afraid.
Tit for tat comments don’t change anything.
Had you never heard of this attribute with Deus 2?
I did a video with today’s Manticore and Deus 2 results from hunt on old home site.
Guess what I mentioned. I mentioned deus 2 does good job on the junk with tonal nuance. How coincidental…hmm.
Go take a look.
Look at that piece of metal I show and make the comment.
You may be asking why I dug. I dig a few for verification. Site was loaded with that shxt btw.
 
I mentioned deus 2 does good job on the junk with tonal nuance. How coincidental…hmm.
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Do you see any D2 beach hunters saying, "Not digging this, because it sounds like foil" Or, "Not digging this, because it sounds like a pulltab". Of course you don't see that, because that foil and pulltab sound, could just as well be a gold ring or other type of gold jewelry.
 
The price vs performance is a big factor for probably 3/4 of the playing field in this Hobbie. And imo the Legend is the best bang for the buck, and nipping at the heels of everything else that's 3 xs the price
The price vs performance, was the main point of my post, but it sure opened up a can of worms. Oh well, it's been entertaining :)
 
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Do you see any D2 beach hunters saying, "Not digging this, because it sounds like foil" Or, "Not digging this, because it sounds like a pulltab". Of course you don't see that, because that foil and pulltab sound, could just as well be a gold ring or other type of gold jewelry.

There is more junk in sites than pull rings and pull tabs in sites. To hang up a person on.
Again get near deus 2 user on old home site and have a look see.
Can slaw, square thingies of thin aluminum, etc, these can give some pretty good ID. They fail lots of times in the audio nuance dept. Even a twist cap can fail (unmashed). Hmmm
 
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