Online metal detecting course? Are you serious, NuggetNoggin?

[diggindaboot]

I was referring to his U.S. finds. If I could afford to go to the UK, I'd find some amazing stuff as well. Sorry, but he's hardly the person to be charging for his "vast" knowledge and claiming it will be the ultimate online metal detecting course "in the world". The beginning of his latest video definitely reminds me of P.T. Barnum...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcibeaOq3G0&t=566s

He has some remarkable finds as well in the US. If you don't like him that's ok. He really is a genuine guy. Others charge for detecting lessons and I don't see the blow back for them. The difference between him and all the others on this site is, he get's paid to detect. He detects more than all of us. Most of us would love to have his job. My question to you is, how much do you know about his hunting skills ? Have you hunted with him ? I totally get why you don't want to pay for lessons.

In my detecting club there are about 6 of us who are really good. I have been detecting the shortest amount of time compared to 90% of the club. I can't count the times they approach myself and another guy to show them how we find so much stuff. They won't listen to us. Maybe they will if Nugget is telling them. We even do demonstrations to help them with discerning good targets next to bad targets. In one ear out the other. And so it goes.

 

[KOB]

He has some remarkable finds as well in the US. If you don't like him that's ok. He really is a genuine guy. Others charge for detecting lessons and I don't see the blow back for them. The difference between him and all the others on this site is, he get's paid to detect. He detects more than all of us. Most of us would love to have his job. My question to you is, how much do you know about his hunting skills ? Have you hunted with him ? I totally get why you don't want to pay for lessons.

In my detecting club there are about 6 of us who are really good. I have been detecting the shortest amount of time compared to 90% of the club. I can't count the times they approach myself and another guy to show them how we find so much stuff. They won't listen to us. Maybe they will if Nugget is telling them. We even do demonstrations to help them with discerning good targets next to bad targets. In one ear out the other. And so it goes.

Interesting response. I had the same thing going on with the NOX. A couple guys bought the Nox before me. I was hoping after 6 months they would figure it out and teach me about the machine before I bought mine. They were so-so hunters and found a few pieces of gold on the beach. So I buy mine. Read all about it here and watching videos. To me , it was like using my brain to detect the detector itself , learning the machine and a lot of tinkering and adjustments.

In short , I quickly blew these guys out of the water. They were coming to me asking why I'm finding so much and my settings. I wasn't exactly happy with this because initially I was hoping it would have been the other way around. They didn't do much better after I showed them my advanced settings and went back to their turn-on-and-go method. I think some have it and some don't. Not all are cut out to be a solid metal detectorist.

 

[diggindaboot]

Interesting response. I had the same thing going on with the NOX. A couple guys bought the Nox before me. I was hoping after 6 months they would figure it out and teach me about the machine before I bought mine. They were so-so hunters and found a few pieces of gold on the beach. So I buy mine. Read all about it here and watching videos. To me , it was like using my brain to detect the detector itself , learning the machine and a lot of tinkering and adjustments.

In short , I quickly blew these guys out of the water. They were coming to me asking why I'm finding so much and my settings. I wasn't exactly happy with this because initially I was hoping it would have been the other way around. They didn't do much better after I showed them my advanced settings and went back to their turn-on-and-go method. I think some have it and some don't. Not all are cut out to be a solid metal detectorist.

The biggest key for my buddy and I is we put the time in. I've been detecting less than 10 years. Most in the club have been detecting 25 or more. My buddy and I hit the beach one day comparing notes and what we're hearing. And BOOM. The light came on after about a 10 minute conversation. We quadruple the gold finds compared to the rest of the club combined.

 

[Fredneck]

I was referring to his U.S. finds. If I could afford to go to the UK, I'd find some amazing stuff as well. Sorry, but he's hardly the person to be charging for his "vast" knowledge and claiming it will be the ultimate online metal detecting course "in the world". The beginning of his latest video definitely reminds me of P.T. Barnum...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcibeaOq3G0&t=566s

at vid, think Bill is ready to clock his Noggin for diggin into a spill like that, rookie move. Another sorry move as a guest, he didn't offer Bill the opportunity to dig the spill once it was realized after Bill made the discovery. I hunted with Noggin on a couple group hunts years back ... he's still a Nugget Noggin. Bill should give the class.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

My question to you is, how much do you know about his hunting skills ? Have you hunted with him ? I totally get why you don't want to pay for lessons.

I've watched enough of his videos to know he shouldn't be charging for metal detecting classes. I also think the whole concept of an online metal detecting course is laughable. Just my opinion.

 

[mh9162013]

I've watched enough of his videos to know he shouldn't be charging for metal detecting classes. I also think the whole concept of an online metal detecting course is laughable. Just my opinion.

I guess it depends on your current level of metal detecting skill and knowledge, as well as what you hope to learn.

Online education programs, especially in this post-coronavirus world are the future of learning, especially at the post-secondary level. This doesn't mean in-person or hands-on learning will be gone, but much of the classroom materials can be learned online now.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Some things can't be taught online. Can you teach me to hit a baseball 400 feet online? Nope, that takes inherent skill and endless practice. Can you teach me how to bass fish? Nope, that also takes skill and endless practice. How about playing golf? No way. That takes skill and endless practice. You get my point.

Shortcuts are never the answer in life. Get out there and try whatever you want to get good at. Sitting on your butt watching Nugget "teach" you how to detect is lazy, pointless and a waste of good money.

 

[KOB]

Some things can't be taught online. Can you teach me to hit a baseball 400 feet online? Nope, that takes inherent skill and endless practice. Can you teach me how to bass fish? Nope, that also takes skill and endless practice. How about playing golf? No way. That takes skill and endless practice. You get my point.

Shortcuts are never the answer in life. Get out there and try whatever you want to get good at. Sitting on your butt watching Nugget "teach" you how to detect is lazy, pointless and a waste of good money.

Wow ! I agree with you about 50% of the time. But I THOUGHT you were smarter than this FBT. There I go thinking again !
Yes you can get instructions on the technical aspects of hitting a BB , how to take a stance in the box , what sequences of muscles to use , etc. Bass fishing ? How about learning about all the right lures , tackle , type of rod and reel , weather patterns , lake conditions , on and on.
Golf is the same thing. How about being a marksman at the range ?

All of these things do require action on ones part and require plenty of practice for sure. But to say it's all taking a shortcut ? I don't think so. No different than being taught something in class. You are (hopefully) learning something that you can take into the real world and be good at. To each his own. College's have offered online classes for years. Have you ever heard of those ?

 

[mh9162013]

Some things can't be taught online. Can you teach me to hit a baseball 400 feet online? Nope, that takes inherent skill and endless practice. Can you teach me how to bass fish? Nope, that also takes skill and endless practice. How about playing golf? No way. That takes skill and endless practice. You get my point.

Shortcuts are never the answer in life. Get out there and try whatever you want to get good at. Sitting on your butt watching Nugget "teach" you how to detect is lazy, pointless and a waste of good money.

Like I said, it depends on what you're trying to teach. If there is a newbie who is just starting out, they can learn about the acronyms, the general theory of how metal detectors work, the different terms and what they mean, etc.

As for more hands on learning, videos can teach a lot. For example, they can give an idea of what a VDI number jumping all over the place looks like, what it looks like when you're properly swinging a detector, how to dig a proper plug, etc. Sure, it's best to learn these things in the real world with an instructor right next to you, but even before the coronavirus hit, that's not easily accessible for most people.

And as I mentioned before, much of this can be acquired for free through Youtube. But some people appreciate "one stop shopping" and I'm sure he's got some die hard fans, who aren't signing up for his classes purely to just learn about metal detecting.

For example, want to become a registered nurse? This is a very hands-on profession that requires plenty of real world experience. Yet it's one of the most popular online college degrees available. And yes, it requires clinicals or practicums that provide real world instruction to nursing students. But almost all of the other academic requirements can be completed on a computer.

EDIT: As another example, think about metal detecting books. They are far less capable of information conveyance than a video. Yet they're commonly used to teach others about metal detecting.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

College's have offered online classes for years. Have you ever heard of those ?

Sorry, once someone starts with the insults, I assume their opinion is not relevant to the discussion. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[chillforlife]

Sorry, once someone starts with the insults, I assume their opinion is not relevant to the discussion. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

But your insults are okay? I think I see.

 

[KOB]

Sorry, once someone starts with the insults, I assume their opinion is not relevant to the discussion. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Sorry Tim , insults ? Like I said , I agree with 50% of what your topics are about. Had to jump in on your insinuation that we are all dummy's here. Were not , except for me ! Haha...But I do have common sense. Anytime you can learn something from any kind of medium whether it's from videos , books , schools, , personal mentors , etc is a good thing. I like to follow what other successful people do. And the not so successful , which I probably learn more from on what NOT to do. I get you don't like the promotions/ads on videos. But to say in so many words they are worthless is beyond me. If I missed your whole take on this , let me know. That's how I read into it and it wouldn't be the 1st time !

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Okay, KOB, I see you point. I'm just wondering how much he'll charge for the course. Maybe it's only going to be a few bucks. Could be much ado about nothing on my part. We'll see.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

But your insults are okay? I think I see.

I don't think I insulted anyone here. Feel free to point it out and I'll apologize.

 

[Country Dirt Kid]

You people have been metal detecting teachers. You people have done a good job!

 

[KOB]

Okay, KOB, I see you point. I'm just wondering how much he'll charge for the course. Maybe it's only going to be a few bucks. Could be much ado about nothing on my part. We'll see.

Sorry Tim , your 1st sentence said "some things can't be taught online". And that maybe true. But I ran with it , meaning everything. It was just about metal detecting , and mainly this Nugget guy. And paying for some course. Idk him or seen his videos. But I'm sure you learned something on what NOT to do by watching him !

 

[Scooterjim]

Some things can't be taught online. Can you teach me to hit a baseball 400 feet online? Nope, that takes inherent skill and endless practice. Can you teach me how to bass fish? Nope, that also takes skill and endless practice. How about playing golf? No way. That takes skill and endless practice. You get my point.

Shortcuts are never the answer in life. Get out there and try whatever you want to get good at. Sitting on your butt watching Nugget "teach" you how to detect is lazy, pointless and a waste of good money.

Yes, you can learn all that online. Golf instruction videos are all over the internet, so are fishing tutorials. I learned a lot about my atpro from videos. If it wasn't for onine instruction videos I wouldn't know as much as I do about my TRX, [manual sucks}. I have fixed all kinds of appliances and done many car repairs I would not have been able to do without online learning. Hanging out here has been a learning experience as well.

Nothing will help a beginning detectorist more than time digging, but learning the basics, and common mistakes beginners make before you start can be helpful. Practicing a improper swing doesn't help in golf or detecting. I would not pay for online detecting classes from nugget, but I can't find any fault with someone buying or selling classes. If digging with Brit offers classes I'll sign right up. I'm sure she could teach me something.

I'm not a big fan of his videos, I do watch them but it's because the wife watches him. I think she's a little sweet on him.

 

[T-Man]

If he is willing to offer the classes, and people are willing to pay him for it, than more power to him. I'm not signing up, and also not telling people where to spend their money. I wish him the best of luck with it. Doubt he'll make much if anything but to each their own.

 

[Scooterjim]

Sorry, but I'm getting tired of watching metal detecting videos where someone is plugging a flashlight, knife or something else they're being paid to plug. It's bad enough that I have to put up with all of YouTube's ad banners and commercials in the middle of video. The last thing I need is more ads!

And it's a $150 flashlight, I'm scrounging pennies from the park and they are trying to sell me a $150 flashlight. I don't know anyone with a $150 flashlight and I know people with Yetti coolers.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Yes, you can learn all that online.

Send me link to a video that will magically teach me how to hit a curveball 400 feet! Or a video that will give me the patience to hit that tiny golf ball into a tiny hole! Or teach me how to find monster bass after a cold front. Not gonna happen.

Even if you could find a video, they're FREE to watch. Why would anyone pay Nugget (or anyone else) good money to get tips that are free everywhere online? It's like paying for online "adult videos". You have to be pretty dumb to pay for that, since it's everywhere online for free (so I hear)! LOL!