Fisher Impulse AQ Limited Launch!

[OBN]

Is it possible to see a video including these tests ? #1- a nickel in mineralized sand. #2- a gold ring in mineralized sand. #3- a gold ring with rusty nails , mineralized sand , at depth ???

Love you KOB but dam buddy......I'm going hunting this week......

Sorry..I got the info I want to know.....but if I happen into those conditions ..

There will be several others with New "AQ"'s soon, some big names also..from different areas...Hopefully they can help..

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/12884-fisher-impulse-aq-ltd-preliminary-report/

Steves report..link above..first words..

Short answer, the Impulse AQ is the real deal. Advice to Tom Walsh - put all resources necessary into getting the full retail version approved for sale ASAP.

 

[OBN]

I'll check the link you sent later to.ight when I get a chance. do you think if the bh were running at 16v or 15.8 it would close the gap? What is the depth of the excal all metal modded out?
thanks

Steve that 14.8 pack was full charged to 16.8 when I put it in..

Steve I forgot to add the AQ charged to 17.2 volts / 17.4 but is regulated to 15 volts..I think...Both were fully charged

You know I never even tried the excalibur. But I can say this, I took the AQ into a small beach and hunted it twice..got gold...then I took the excalibur back in to see if I had missed any shallow targets that were good, for all I dug with the AQ were deep faints..I was correct in thinking that all of the shallows were trash.

So with the excalibur I marked a couple targets off that were faints in PP but good targets for I could hear them in disc when checked. BUt they were still faints in PP. I go back in with the AQ and found the marked area. The faints I left with the excalibur were blast with the AQ...

 

[Steve]

Steve that 14.8 pack was full charged to 16.8 when I put it in..

You know I never even tried the excalibur. But I can say this, I took the AQ into a small beach and hunted it twice..got gold...then I took the excalibur back in to see if I had missed any shallow targets that were good, for all I dug with the AQ were deep faints..I was correct in thinking that all of the shallows were trash.

So with the excalibur I marked a couple targets off that were faints in PP but good targets for I could hear them in disc when checked. BUt they were still faints in PP. I go back in with the AQ and found the marked area. The faints I left with the excalibur were blast with the AQ...

thanks... sounds like your going to be busy for a while. good luck

 

[Cfmct]

Steve that 14.8 pack was full charged to 16.8 when I put it in..

You know I never even tried the excalibur. But I can say this, I took the AQ into a small beach and hunted it twice..got gold...then I took the excalibur back in to see if I had missed any shallow targets that were good, for all I dug with the AQ were deep faints..I was correct in thinking that all of the shallows were trash.

So with the excalibur I marked a couple targets off that were faints in PP but good targets for I could hear them in disc when checked. BUt they were still faints in PP. I go back in with the AQ and found the marked area. The faints I left with the excalibur were blast with the AQ...

Joe... a pulse will be deeper than a VLF mods or no mods... I never doubted that... the mods just make the exal better than stock guys... I said the other day I won't bother taking my excal to one beach because its a pulse beach in fact I have another beach where I pulled 34 gold rings only one was with a VLF the GT I knew I needed a deeper detector and the Dual Field found what a VLF wasn't going to find.. that is why I found it laughable in those video's where they put a NOX against the AQ... that was ridiculous...

 

[dewcon]

I think many see the Nox as THE VLF now for water hunting...... so showing the depth difference was the point. Even thou we all ready know theres a difference ....just how much on a given target that we can wrap our minds around. I dont think many of us arent using a PI because of depth..... we arent using it because of trash and TIME. Therefore we need more videos showing how well it discs which can be a real factor on wanting the machine over say the Nox as a daily user. The average hunter may not have but one multi use machine. I think its great this move toward a workable PI that disc better.

 

[Cfmct]

I think many see the Nox as THE VLF now for water hunting...... so showing the depth difference was the point. Even thou we all ready know theres a difference ....just how much on a given target that we can wrap our minds around. I dont think many of us arent using a PI because of depth..... we arent using it because of trash and TIME. Therefore we need more videos showing how well it discs which can be a real factor on wanting the machine over say the Nox as a daily user. The average hunter may not have but one multi use machine. I think its great this move toward a workable PI that disc better.

In disc it loses 10% of its depth bringing that nickel Joe posted down to 17 inches I have found gold past 17 inches with my past PI's and a person who uses a pulse long enough can judge what kind of a target they maybe digging I could do that with the Dual Field...

The testing is interesting but also its not the final word.... what if that coin was on edge will the detector still hear it? What if its under deep iron 19 inches down... lots of variables that come into play in real conditions... when I find big heavy signet rings they are usually face down and what i see is the bottom of the band... its why I take controlled testing with a grain of salt.

 

[dewcon]

I agree on the loss of depth.... but so does the Xcal in PP mode or most machines with true AM. However the pay off is the ability to use reverse disc..... much like this machine may offer and with time many may not have to do much checking with the right tells ... or dig it all or most of it attitude adjustment. Even at 10% loss...... thats exceptional depth if it can clearly disc iron. It would allow you to somewhat chance recent drops and move a little more quickly digging deeper targets. You always have tomorrow to come back and hunt in AM using reverse disc if you believe you missed a good deal. Down here it will be interesting to see just what is down there.... and what percentage is gold .....was it worth the dig. Same question as with other PIs over VLF. We may have to change our mind set ..... that after 3 or 4 scoops aint nothing coming from a hole that deep worth digging.

 

[KOB]

You all have great views on this machine. I know with my PI pretty good what's under the coil. But many times I have been fooled due to conditions , so I dig anyways just out of curiosity and have been rewarded. Take bottlecaps and bobbie pins for example that have turned out to be rings. The major thing I see so far is this machine is loud on deeper targets , where my PI is faint and soft. Maybe we do need to recondition our way of thinking. Hopefully we will see over the next few months more results from in the wild.

 

[Cfmct]

I agree on the loss of depth.... but so does the Xcal in PP mode or most machines with true AM. However the pay off is the ability to use reverse disc..... much like this machine may offer and with time many may not have to do much checking with the right tells ... or dig it all or most of it attitude adjustment. Even at 10% loss...... thats exceptional depth if it can clearly disc iron. It would allow you to somewhat chance recent drops and move a little more quickly digging deeper targets. You always have tomorrow to come back and hunt in AM using reverse disc if you believe you missed a good deal. Down here it will be interesting to see just what is down there.... and what percentage is gold .....was it worth the dig. Same question as with other PIs over VLF. We may have to change our mind set ..... that after 3 or 4 scoops aint nothing coming from a hole that deep worth digging.

If I am buying a pulse I want raw depth... I'm used to digging trash been doing it a long time... from the pictures I have seen it likes bottlecaps that is another reason I like the GT/Excal you knew when you were over one with its distinct tone.. if one comes across high carat gold and the detector says its iron why would I want to use the disc?

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind taking it for a few spins on 2 beaches that are very challenging.. very little if any iron but lots of shotgun pellets and bullets... I think they held a war there Those beaches though hold very deep gold and a VLF is the last choice to hunt there with..

Your mind set has to change... I do not give up on a target no matter how many scoops I need to take... I can remember years ago scooping for 10 minutes because the hole kept filling with gravel and course sand but I got gold ring and it was worth it a natural ruby ring with a date on the inside from 1928.....

I seen others give up on holes and I would swoop in and find the target... the guy kept digging deeper and deeper when all he needed to do was PP it in the sidewall...


I did not show him or tell him what I found... if he wanted to know he should have recovered it. This is what he gave up on.

 

[Steve]

looks like it hits on targets similar to an atx coil... sizing, shaping and depth determination might have a learning curve. will be interesting what Joe works out in the coming weeks

 

[KOB]

Even when I got started some 40 something years ago , the old timers then said "if your not digging trash , you're not digging treasure". Seems to ring true even now. I wonder how this thing sounds with deeper pulltabs and sinkers.

 

[OBN]

Even when I got started some 40 something years ago , the old timers then said "if your not digging trash , you're not digging treasure". Seems to ring true even now. I wonder how this thing sounds with deeper pulltabs and sinkers.

It loves sinkers...pulltab to..no matter what depth or Mod....unfortunately.

 

[Cfmct]

It loves sinkers...pulltab to..no matter what depth or Mod....unfortunately.

Welcome to the world of pulse hunting...


I remember my first two weeks beach hunting with my PI... I was finding tiny staples and sneaker eyelets down a foot... I wanted to throw that thing in the water as far as I could... then week 3 came and I hit a gold wedding band went back the next day and found 3 more gold rings and was hooked


Now you spoiled me with your skullies and other mods and I got lazy using a VLF but it fit hunting the old beaches I was hunting with the amount of ferrous targets...

You know what I am talking about... that stretch of beach I pulled that 1923 school ring that you so graciously broke Those were fun days.

 

[OBN]

Gold does have that affect...



One moment I will never forget...you handing me that old class ring and me crunching it.....


Yes those were good days, just hope we can do them again.. time sure is moving fast..

 

[Cfmct]

Gold does have that affect...



One moment I will never forget...you handing me that old class ring and me crunching it.....


Yes those were good days, just hope we can do them again.. time sure is moving fast..

Come alone... that old guy you brought couldn't handle our rocky beaches or mud

 

[Surf Master]

Cfm-ct

Come alone... that old guy you brought couldn't handle our rocky beaches or mud
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[Cfmct]

Gold does have that affect...



One moment I will never forget...you handing me that old class ring and me crunching it.....


Yes those were good days, just hope we can do them again.. time sure is moving fast..

Here is that ring I believe...

 

[dewcon]

Off subject, Dew since the Depot closed I am a lot less aggressive about the hunting for some reason. All I want to do now is play around with the AQ in the water and make a killer battery for it.....I have come up with the perfect setup but it will have to wait till the AQ is out of warranty. No need to be hacking stuff up for what we have now works fine. ..The perfect setup would be changing shafts and making a drop in battery system like the MDT..using 4 26650 5500mAh batteries..... and it would run 8 hours. I wish I still had my old Eric Foster PP PI, it had the same set up but you used "D" batteries...and it was a discriminator PI!

Joe i talked to Dimatar the MDT designer about upgrading his battery. He said he tested a lot of company 26650 batteries and the EBL was just superior over any. But it wouldnt matter if the case is built to handle the 26650s which ones ya went with. Ive used these now and have a lot of hours on them for about 17 mos.... they still charge at their max 4.1 dcv. Even 6 hours would work.... id just have to plan my day and id work an area better. It was interesting you talking about whispers on the Xcal being blasts on the AQ. You just need to do a little more show and tell on the Disc mode. I know you wanted the depth. But i think a lot of guys at least down here are more interested in the disc aspect. We will see from the guys who get it here in Fl just how much has been missed down there. People pound these beaches daily chasing recent drops..... so they get 8 to 10" every day. I think this year is showing people renurishment, active hunters and lack of people is making it feel like some beaches are hunted out. Hopefully like you said it will make these beaches come alive again. Not a huge depth difference between the older PIs and VLFs here so having the ability to chase recent drops faster is the reason most go with the VLFs. Maybe that will change. You never said how running the two machines went. How close can another hunter get to one of these? Ive been pretty lucky rarely does another machine affect the MDT running in 9khz.....just another MDT lol.

 

[OBN]

Here is that ring I believe...

I hope you melted that ring, I'm still haunted by that crunching sound it made..

Joe i talked to Dimatar the MDT designer about upgrading his battery. He said he tested a lot of company 26650 batteries and the EBL was just superior over any. But it wouldnt matter if the case is built to handle the 26650s which ones ya went with. Ive used these now and have a lot of hours on them for about 17 mos.... they still charge at their max 4.1 dcv. Even 6 hours would work.... id just have to plan my day and id work an area better. It was interesting you talking about whispers on the Xcal being blasts on the AQ. You just need to do a little more show and tell on the Disc mode. I know you wanted the depth. But i think a lot of guys at least down here are more interested in the disc aspect. We will see from the guys who get it here in Fl just how much has been missed down there. People pound these beaches daily chasing recent drops..... so they get 8 to 10" every day. I think this year is showing people renurishment, active hunters and lack of people is making it feel like some beaches are hunted out. Hopefully like you said it will make these beaches come alive again. Not a huge depth difference between the older PIs and VLFs here so having the ability to chase recent drops faster is the reason most go with the VLFs. Maybe that will change. You never said how running the two machines went. How close can another hunter get to one of these? Ive been pretty lucky rarely does another machine affect the MDT running in 9khz.....just another MDT lol.

Dew I ordered 4 of the 26650 batteries yesterday off ebay..(23.oo dollars).... I had also ordered 8 Samsung 35E...(47.oo) But Now that I'm looking at the 26650 ...think, they will be better and cheaper. I read the reviews on those also and they matched what Dimatar said. Hope to see them before the end of the month? Said California, hope not China..

I'm looking at either....... one inch PVC pipe or a one inch (ID) plastic tube (12 inchs long) to hold them. Run the M-8 (90 degree) 4 pin fitting cable to the front of and in..sealed, then have the HP wire run thru that tube to the back end (connected to the M-12 8 pin CTX fitting)and all sealed up. So the power cable/HP cable runs to the front and the Head phone m-12 8 pin out the back. Using the 2 stock Battery holders..The charger would plug into the M-8 90 degree fitting on the cable that comes from the front of the battery. Battery will be sealed completely. PVC pipe is cheap and a lot less work, but heavier..where as PETG tubing looks good, and you can see whats going on inside, light weight, but more work.

Water has been bad here in the bay,..windy, high and rough. As soon as we get out of this weather pattern I will make a effort to get in more hunting time. But the All metal mod has spoiled me. I am going to try and test a few things, like a ring under some crab pot pieces at different depths in the reject mods. Then see how much depth is lost on a couple of rings in that mod. Some one asked about a small white gold ring in the test...If I can slip in one a week I'll be happy. And these will help answer my questions, It's good to know what you have in hand and what it can and can't do...

Wish I had more black sand and Hot rocks here for testing, but those I don't see real often. From what Steve H...said seemed it did well where he went yesterday but all is early yet.... I'll be glad when others get there hands on this machine. Other then the locals...

 

[Bklein]

Dual field depth?

In disc it loses 10% of its depth bringing that nickel Joe posted down to 17 inches I have found gold past 17 inches with my past PI's and a person who uses a pulse long enough can judge what kind of a target they maybe digging I could do that with the Dual Field...

The testing is interesting but also its not the final word.... what if that coin was on edge will the detector still hear it? What if its under deep iron 19 inches down... lots of variables that come into play in real conditions... when I find big heavy signet rings they are usually face down and what i see is the bottom of the band... its why I take controlled testing with a grain of salt.

Any videos showing this depth on a dual field? All I’ve seen show much less depth. Some air tests show single digits on a gold ring...