Deus 2 on the beach?

[FelixtheCat]

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C'mon Craig! Do things right!

 

[Surf Master]

CFM-ct / OBN & the AQ

If they are chocolate chip , I have the milk , OBN , got to give Deus credit , at least they bring the machine to the market for sale , the AQ burned up with a 2 year smoke screen -
that never happened That we will never forget !

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

I'm sold on the Excalibur and AQ for now. But give the machine about a year, time will tell if it's all it should be. (That's just about how long it took everyone to see the Nox's ... The Good, the Bad and the ugly)

One thing I have found, One beach machine can not do it all, you need a couple to cover your needs...., and maybe now a third... .... Craig bought a Nox so that opens the doors to everyone that wants to go to the other side...

Something I've notice that isn't right with the reviews is the separation testing.

Deus 2 has a 9 inch coil, nox has an 11 inch coil. Of course separation is better with a 9 inch.

Likewise with it picking up the chain, I would hit that with my 6 inch on the nox.

 

[Surf Master]

Bass Trackerman reply on video

Looked like a relic hunter at the beach for the 1st time , give it 6 months , the people that get the machine , test it at the beach , will see if it's worthy or not , Ill stand by & watch

 

[Beachhunt1]

Something I've notice that isn't right with the reviews is the separation testing.

Deus 2 has a 9 inch coil, nox has an 11 inch coil. Of course separation is better with a 9 inch.

Likewise with it picking up the chain, I would hit that with my 6 inch on the nox.

I don't own the 6" coil. But I HIGHLY doubt you would get more depth on that chain with the 6" coil. In the surface test the Nox had a 4-5 inch range. In the burried test the Nox was unable to hear it. [neither would the 6" coil have]

 

[Beachhunt1]

Looked like a relic hunter at the beach for the 1st time , give it 6 months , the people that get the machine , test it at the beach , will see if it's worthy or not , Ill stand by & watch

YA, scary a relic hunter can put down the Equinox at the beach.

 

[Surf Master]

Bh1

⁸ Really , I thought seal team 6 was going needed,
For extraction , land hunter lost at the beach , no big deal , by the way didn't you once sell detectors on here

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

I don't own the 6" coil. But I HIGHLY doubt you would get more depth on that chain with the 6" coil. In the surface test the Nox had a 4-5 inch range. In the burried test the Nox was unable to hear it. [neither would the 6" coil have]

You might be surprised, the 6 inch coil is more sensitive, so on a small chain it could hit the chain deeper than the larger coil

 

[Beachhunt1]

You might be surprised, the 6 inch coil is more sensitive, so on a small chain it could hit the chain deeper than the larger coil

Sorry, I would have to see a video done to prove it. The 6" coil has nowhere near the punch power as the 11 or 15" coils.

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

Sorry, I would have to see a video done to prove it. The 6" coil has nowhere near the punch power as the 11 or 15" coils.

On a chain the 11 inch can't see, the 6 inch only needs to see it at 1 inch to be better.
It's not a typical beach hunting setup, the 6 inch is usually used to hunt small nuggets the size of a fly !!!!.

Smaller coil = more sensitive

 

[Beachhunt1]

On a chain the 11 inch can't see, the 6 inch only needs to see it at 1 inch to be better.
It's not a typical beach hunting setup, the 6 inch is usually used to hunt small nuggets the size of a fly !!!!.

Smaller coil = more sensitive

The 11" coil COULD see the gold chain laying on top to about 4-5 inches. Just not buried 5" deep in salt water contact.

AND NIETHER WOULD THE 6" be able to see it 5 inches deep in Salt Water contact. PROVE ME WRONG

With the Equinox being out for over 4 years you must be able to find one video of the 6" beating the 11" on a gold chain????

PS: your Equinox would not be able to be in gold mode on a wet salt beach.

L@@K at it again! https://youtu.be/3Q94jvnsNd4

 

[Cfmct]

The 11" coil COULD see the gold chain laying on top to about 4-5 inches. Just not buried 5" deep in salt water contact.

AND NIETHER WOULD THE 6" be able to see it 5 inches deep in Salt Water contact. PROVE ME WRONG

With the Equinox being out for over 4 years you must be able to find one video of the 6" beating the 11" on a gold chain????

PS: your Equinox would not be able to be in gold mode on a wet salt beach.

L@@K at it again! https://youtu.be/3Q94jvnsNd4

Finding chains in the wild and on a video are two different animals... when the Nox first came out they posted video's of its ability to find chains...

I hate bringing this up but detectors see only 1 link or the clasp of the
gold chain... I'm going to kick myself for posting this again

 

[Beachhunt1]

Finding chains in the wild and on a video are two different animals... when the Nox first came out they posted video's of its ability to find chains...

I hate bringing this up but detectors see only 1 link or the clasp of the
gold chain... I'm going to kick myself for posting this again

Yes, lots of old wives' tales on gold chains.

On a chain you have detected in the past. Recheck it for depth and have your detector set-up properly. Then set the chain at the max depth you can hear it.

But before you do. Carefully cut two links off and make sure the one you cut is closed. Put it within swinging distance at the same depth.........let me know how that works out.

Now, I have found a few clasps. But how many of you have found links from chains?

 

[Cfmct]

Yes, lots of old wives' tales on gold chains.

On a chain you have detected in the past. Recheck it for depth and have your detector set-up properly. Then set the chain at the max depth you can hear it.

But before you do. Carefully cut two links off and make sure the one you cut is closed. Put it within swinging distance at the same depth.........let me know how that works out.

Now, I have found a few clasps. But how many of you have found links from chains?

Its not a old wives tale...

I think Whites and Mr. Bill have a lot of credibility as well as others...

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showpost.php?p=575002&postcount=21

http://metaldetectingforum.com/showpost.php?p=575004&postcount=22

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

The 11" coil COULD see the gold chain laying on top to about 4-5 inches. Just not buried 5" deep in salt water contact.

AND NIETHER WOULD THE 6" be able to see it 5 inches deep in Salt Water contact. PROVE ME WRONG

With the Equinox being out for over 4 years you must be able to find one video of the 6" beating the 11" on a gold chain????

PS: your Equinox would not be able to be in gold mode on a wet salt beach.

L@@K at it again! https://youtu.be/3Q94jvnsNd4

It's not going to be in gold mode but the principles are the same regardless of the detector (same physics), a smaller coil will hit smaller gold and deeper in the right conditions than a larger coil

A good discussion on the topic the other year over on detector prospector, it really opened my eyes to having lots of tools in the arsenal.

https://www.detectorprospector.com/...-long-detailed/?do=findComment&comment=127019

Now the 6 inch is obviously too small to search a whole dry sand beach, but for a targeted search in one area it's great and picks up the tiniest bits.

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

Finding chains in the wild and on a video are two different animals... when the Nox first came out they posted video's of its ability to find chains...

I hate bringing this up but detectors see only 1 link or the clasp of the
gold chain... I'm going to kick myself for posting this again

One thing I think has kept youtubers finding chains in the wild is not many run in AM.
Like tiny nuggets, it will ring up as a negative if it's not hitting the clasp.

 

[Cfmct]

One thing I think has kept youtubers finding chains in the wild is not many run in AM.
Like tiny nuggets, it will ring up as a negative if it's not hitting the clasp.

Starting this hobby as a pulse hunter, I run all my detectors in all metal... and I agree with you about a smaller coil they are more sensitive than a larger coil.

 

[dewcon]

Sorry, I would have to see a video done to prove it. The 6" coil has nowhere near the punch power as the 11 or 15" coils.

A smaller coil however has to process far less material. That material can seriously reduce sensitivity especially to small weak conductors like gold. So the 8” could likely equal the depth of the 11” coil in a chain. Frankly because of that same process there isn’t a lot of gain in depth between the 11” and 15” coils.

Now that said….. I’d have to see that test done with one of my chains between the Deus and Nox. Depth on that chain was close to expected from the Nox …. But I just don’t believe the Deus can get that depth. That was like 3 times the air depth with the smaller coil. I agree Pennington showed a chain in the salt water too with the Nox. Once you guys start buying and using them….. then I’ll look more carefully at the Deus. Like Joe I’m fine using what I have. What I know from using the MDT with its single freqs and salt balance is ….. you can’t effectively use a high frequency out deeper in salt water. I use 9 kHz and the Deus with its SMF will have to run nearer to a low than high freq.

 

[Beachhunt1]

A smaller coil however has to process far less material. That material can seriously reduce sensitivity especially to small weak conductors like gold. So the 8” could likely equal the depth of the 11” coil in a chain. Frankly because of that same process there isn’t a lot of gain in depth between the 11” and 15” coils.

Now that said….. I’d have to see that test done with one of my chains between the Deus and Nox. Depth on that chain was close to expected from the Nox …. But I just don’t believe the Deus can get that depth. That was like 3 times the air depth with the smaller coil. I agree Pennington showed a chain in the salt water too with the Nox. Once you guys start buying and using them….. then I’ll look more carefully at the Deus. Like Joe I’m fine using what I have. What I know from using the MDT with its single freqs and salt balance is ….. you can’t effectively use a high frequency out deeper in salt water. I use 9 kHz and the Deus with its SMF will have to run nearer to a low than high freq.

Hey Dew

I agree that a 6" COULD equal the depth on a gold chain in saltwater. But I have now asked for just one video to prove this. The problem: Punch power of a 6" coil in Saltwater and black sand.

If you believe some here that a given detector, only see's one link or the clasp well, I have a bridge for sale too .

Maybe years ago, but not today, but hey, maybe some can post over decades old discussions to convince me.

What I did see is a new detector completely stomp another detector on a buried gold chain [and air test too]. But I bet that detector was only seeing the clasp too [place wink here]

I doubt that many people have found as many chains, of all kinds than I have. I understand chains! A seasons finds from the year before covid!

 

[Cfmct]

Hey Dew

I agree that a 6" COULD equal the depth on a gold chain in saltwater. But I have now asked for just one video to prove this. The problem: Punch power of a 6" coil in Saltwater and black sand.

If you believe some here that a given detector, only see's one link or the clasp well, I have a bridge for sale too .

Maybe years ago, but not today, but hey, maybe some can post over decades old discussions to convince me.

What I did see is a new detector completely stomp another detector on a buried gold chain [and air test too]. But I bet that detector was only seeing the clasp too [place wink here]

I doubt that many people have found as many chains, of all kinds than I have. I understand chains! A seasons finds from the year before covid!

I posted a fact on how a detector see's a gold chain... don't believe? I don't care... it is what it is.