Deep squeaks on the Equinox 800

[longbow62]

One thing I learned this past Friday....I was water hunting an old resort area with my Nox. My mentor had his Excal. He found a deep target, told me to check it out with my Nox. It was so faint...could barely hear it and was an iron grunt at negative numbers that only showed up one-way....Normally, I would NEVER have dug that. Well, he told me to dig it and about 14 inches down was a crusty "cookie coin". When I knocked the crust off, it turned out to be a 1940 quarter! He told me that's what the deep gold sounds like. Found 3 other silver coins that day chasing those barely audible, one-way sounds!

You must been hauling around a lot of iron by the end of the day if you were digging negative numbers.

The one setting all machines should have is a audio gain imo. Deus and fbs machines are the only ones I know of to have that feature. Bump it up and faint sounds become clearer and louder. Just the most useful feature I've ever come across on any machine.

The only thing about that is it screws up being able to tell how big the target is and the depth the target is based on loudness. See my response to CallMeGrey below.

I have dug deep when I first started. Pinpointer would be beeping at 10-14 inches deep. Finally learned to just stop digging. But... I just read some information from 2 different people with a Nox 800.

Here in Wisconsin, people find copper float. Anywhere from the size smaller than a golf ball all the way up to 52 tons! The two said they got a nice deep 30-31 signal at 12 inches. When they dug, they went down 18-20 inches to find a piece of copper float about the size of an axe head. I'd really like to find some copper float, but not sure I'm willing to dig that deep.

With the 800 I've dug a Walker that was at least 14", and just a whisper. I've dug a Stander that was close to that deep same thing. Sweet tone but so quite. The same with a bunch of Mercs in the 10" range. Numbers were spot on too where the ground was milder.

If your getting a whisper high tone that literally disappears if you raise the coil up any at all, and your getting it 360 degrees around the target I'd dig those every time down to 14'-16". I've dug a few Wheats so deep the numbers would not show anything on the screen, but I had the whisper high tone 360 degrees around the target.

With the 800 you can selectively jack the volume of certain bins and the pitch if hunting in say 5 tones which is all I hunt in.

The same thing can be said of nickels with the 800. I've dug several V nickels 10" plus.

 

[IDXMonster]

I really don’t like being the resident skeptic….but does anyone happen to have good video of the Equinox finding these 10-14” coins in the wild? AS the initial signal is acquired WITH AUDIO FOR THE VIEWER…AS the target is swept and a decision is made to dig…AS the coin is found IN THE WILD with a reasonably accurate determination of depth? Please point in the general direction of these videos should they be available.

 

[CW3]

I really don’t like being the resident skeptic….but does anyone happen to have good video of the Equinox finding these 10-14” coins in the wild? AS the initial signal is acquired WITH AUDIO FOR THE VIEWER…AS the target is swept and a decision is made to dig…AS the coin is found IN THE WILD with a reasonably accurate determination of depth? Please point in the general direction of these videos should they be available.

I second this and would like a video.

 

[woodbutcher]

I second this and would like a video.

Id like to see it too

 

[longbow62]

I've made plenty of post with pics of the full length of my raptor digger down in the hole on wild digs. Some with the digger handle completely below the surface. Videos can be faked. Videos don't prove anything. Digger 9" plus at least 4" probably more inches below ground level.

 

[IDXMonster]

I've made plenty of post with pics of the full length of my raptor digger down in the hole on wild digs. Some with the digger handle completely below the surface. Videos can be faked. Videos don't prove anything. Digger 9" plus at least 4" probably more inches below ground level.

This is the exact OPPOSITE of what I and a few others would like to see. However, a Walker might be seen at this depth.

 

[longbow62]

Another way more than 10" Merc.

 

[longbow62]

So are you accusing me of finding the coin and digging the hole out more? Both of these were from the wild an old ball field.

 

[IDXMonster]

Another way more than 10" Merc.

If you’re saying the dime was in the bottom of the hole, it’s not realistic. The machine can’t see a dime that far away.

 

[woodbutcher]

I will say that in our ballfields the soil isnt native,,,it’s more sand than dirt,,I believe the sand was brought in for maybe a drainage thing for the ballfields? Heck,I don’t know but I do know the soil in our ballfields is really sandy and it’s not like that anywhere else in our town. And I’ve dug some pretty deep signals there, so I believe you Longbow. Now if it was hard packed dirt I don’t think it’s possible on a dime, but that loose sandy soil which I believe I see in your picture I can believe it.

 

[longbow62]

Park1 0 iron bias, 5 tones with volume maxxed in the silver bin. Sensitivity 23, could never max it out without becoming unstable, Recovery 3-4. Ground Balance number was about a 12 in Park1 there. Don't know what to tell you. CTX, ATpro, Etrac, XP Deus, all got smoked.

 

[longbow62]

I will say that in our ballfields the soil isnt native,,,it’s more sand than dirt,,I believe the sand was brought in for maybe a drainage thing for the ballfields? Heck,I don’t know but I do know the soil in our ballfields is really sandy and it’s not like that anywhere else in our town. And I’ve dug some pretty deep signals there, so I believe you Longbow. Now if it was hard packed dirt I don’t think it’s possible on a dime, but that loose sandy soil which I believe I see in your picture I can believe it.

I admit the mildest soil I was ever in at that place. These pics red clay though. Still deep for a dime. Park2 GB high 40's. At this Park can seldom get Sensitivity over 20. At most it was 21 and that's a good day. EMI is the Equinoxes Achilles Heel.

 

[woodbutcher]

I admit the mildest soil I was ever in at that place. These pics red clay though. Still deep for a dime. Park2 GB high 40's. At this Park can seldom get Sensitivity over 20. At most it was 21 and that's a good day. EMI is the Equinoxes Achilles Heel.

I believe you,theyre deep but I know the sandy soil I dug my deepest coins ever in.. and the red clay is about 9 or 10 inches from the looks of it, that’s deep but definitely doable

 

[IDXMonster]

This is WHY the video is a big part. Whether or not you found these coins at these depths does not interest me personally. I simply want to SEE it being done, because I do not believe ANYONE can dig a silver dime at 11”+ with either of the Equinox machines with the stock coil. In ANY mode, with ANY level of disc, with ANY ground balance, with ANY sensitivity.
I would like to see someone…anyone….do it. We are WAY off track from the original request…

 

[Trashfinder]

I believe you Longbow, I do it all the time. I tried and tried to show and tell peeps but until you figure it out, they just skeptics. I have dug quarters and dimes at two full plus shovel deep, I measured my shovel at 7 inches so that puts the coins at 14 plus inches. Found 20+ coins at an old school house one afternoon after using my Deus, CTX, Etrac, Impact first, found nothing, then broke out the NOX 800 and asked the guy i was hunting with,,,,,, how the heck did the guy he came with the week before find so many old coins with his Nox 600? After listening to him tell me the kinds of signals he was digging, i found a barber dime in less than 5 minutes after breaking out the NOX. Then after it clicked how and what to do it was off to the races and I have never looked back. And just FYI i use the exact same settings Longbow posted. It works. Just to add to this,, i set the guys machine i was hunting up just like mine and he still never found a coin, so the settings are only part of the equation,,, when you get it you get it, he never did. The one thing I am not positive of though was did he just put the machine at zero for GB like so many peeps do? I never do, mine is manually GB ever time i hunt. Many machines used at that old school in 3 trips, the guy i set up his machine finally found a merc dime with the impact. Nox 600 and 800 found 60 plus old coins all other machines zero! All coins were for the most part, 8 plus inches and deeper in red clay soil.

 

[Beachhunt1]

The one setting all machines should have is a audio gain imo. Deus and fbs machines are the only ones I know of to have that feature. Bump it up and faint sounds become clearer and louder. Just the most useful feature I've ever come across on any machine.

Not quite sure your definition of audio gain?

On an Equinox [if you have the right conditions] one can up the threshold a position or two and it will enhance deep targets. Up a position or two on threshold does not yet give the machine a true audible threshold.

 

[woodbutcher]

Not quite sure your definition of audio gain?

On an Equinox [if you have the right conditions] one can up the threshold a position or two and it will enhance deep targets. Up a position or two on threshold does not yet give the machine a true audible threshold.

Minelab explorer ,etrac,,has a setting called audio gain. The XP deus calls it audio response. Both machines have a threshold,and a volume control,,but the audio gain/audio response is in itself a setting that let's your audio be modulated or not modulated in steps, like 1 through 10 in explorer and 1 through 6 on xp deus. . What it does is gives the ability to adjust the machine to let the deeper whispers be more pronounced at whatever level you want,,aside from the threshold..I like that feature alot for deeper signals, it's probably my favorite..on machines like FBS that have a actual working depth meter that audio gain feature is priceless, cause i can hear a 10 inch coin like it's 2 inches deep, and one look at the depth meter actually let's me know if it's 2 inches or 10 inches. FBS are really the Cadillacs of deep coin hunting imo

 

[Beachhunt1]

If you’re saying the dime was in the bottom of the hole, it’s not realistic. The machine can’t see a dime that far away.

That's incorrect. I can see a dime that far on a salt beach.

 

[hddeuce03]

You must been hauling around a lot of iron by the end of the day if you were digging negative numbers.
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Actually I didn't dig any iron at all. There was little to no trash...I dug a couple bathing suit clips as well. When the coins are that deep and form that thick crust on them, it changes the numbers. I wouldn't have believed it either, but the famed Joe Beechnut told me to dig the negative numbers and I'll be damned, he was absolutely right! I ended up with 4 silver coins that day.

I was in waist/chest dep water all day and was very surprised but will be going back!

 

[Beachhunt1]

Actually I didn't dig any iron at all. There was little to no trash...I dug a couple bathing suit clips as well. When the coins are that deep and form that thick crust on them, it changes the numbers. I wouldn't have believed it either, but the famed Joe Beechnut told me to dig the negative numbers and I'll be damned, he was absolutely right! I ended up with 4 silver coins that day.

I was in waist/chest dep water all day and was very surprised but will be going back!

Are you in horseshoe mode?

So far one person in this thread understands how to cipher the difference between deep iron and deep non-ferrous. Well maybe two.