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This is an eye opening report. :shock::shock::shock:

Just twelve anti-vaxxers are responsible for almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content circulating on social media platforms. This new analysis of content posted or shared to social media over 812,000 times between February and March uncovers how a tiny group of determined anti-vaxxers is responsible for a tidal wave of disinformation.

You can find the full report (in pdf format) here:
https://252f2edd-1c8b-49f5-9bb2-cb5...d/f4d9b9_b7cedc0553604720b7137f8663366ee5.pdf
 
You are getting awfully closed to politics. But your assertion is false. The Souther border is not wide open. Just google "is the southern border open".

The Southern border is not officially open as in you can't waltz right right though the border crossings, but figuratively it is open because Border Patrol is at times helping them out of the water. They turn themselves in and are put on a plane or bus somewhere. That's fact and not false. So many the Border Patrol is overwhelmed.

People aren't that naive I hope. The border is closed nothing to see here(wink,wink). In the mean time all these C19 positives and unvaccinated individuals are being transplanted to other parts of the country on the tax payers dime. Then they have the nerve to blame me for the continued C19 problems because I haven't took the vaccine. It's one of the the most hypocritical things I've ever seen.

We are talking a million people this year. Every month sets a record. Do you really think these people have been social distancing and wearing mask? I saw video today of what was said to be at least 1,000 individuals sitting shoulder to shoulder under an overpass being detained by the BP.

Again the priority can't be C19 when this kind of thing is going on.
 
If a person doesn't want to be vaccinated for Covid 19 for medical, ethical or religious reasons, they have an intense fear of hypodermics, they have a serious illness/recent or upcoming organ transplant that could be complicated by the vaccine or they are a high performance professional athlete or singer....etc that is not sure if the vaccine will hurt their immediate or long-term performance or they want to wait until there is full FDA approval.........or they just don't believe it will protect them, I totally get that. If a person is making a personal political statement by getting or not getting the vaccine.......................

As for mask wearing, I am semi-retired but I have two part-time jobs as a church musician for the Catholic Archdiocese of Northern Colorado and as a coach for the Denver Public School system. Those two organizations are basically at polar opposites on many issues but they are totally in agreement on mask wearing. Case positivity rates are approaching 5% here after being below 1% for the past three months. So, until the FDA approves vaccinations for young children, wearing a mask indoors at parochial, private and public schools in the city of Denver is the intelligent, humane, and most protective thing to do in order to give those unvaccinated kids the only type of protection they have from contracting and/or spreading Delta Covid 19 whether it is spread by them or by break through vaccinated students or staff. Kids need to be in the classroom. So do the teachers. If that is what it takes to keep them safer, that's okay with me. So is requesting that any teacher or staff member that wants to work at a publicly funded school inside the city of Denver needs to wear a mask indoors and be fully vaccinated by September 30th or take a leave of absence until they can get it done.....or not. I don't know what the parochial and private schools are doing about that. I do know that the private school I worked at for 25 years full-time had some very intelligent anti-vaccine proponents and many children were not vaccinated for ethical/spiritual reasons for some diseases. Getting chicken pox, measles, and even whooping cough was considered a good thing. Getting Covid 19.....I don't know what they think of that matter. Anyway, at most schools here, the student's safety comes first and not politics.

As for the border of Colorado closing.......I never heard of that. There were some closures of roads that crossed state lines between Colorado and New Mexico into Navajo and other Tribal areas. Some counties in Colorado requested that their residents stay within the county. I live on the county line so I ignored that since my doctors, work, grocery store, shooting range and many of the places I like to metal detect were in the next county.

As for wearing masks while detecting, presently I don't when I am by myself. It is just too hot. I definitely did back during the winter when it actually felt good and I didn't want mask police to bug me if I wasn't wearing one. I prefer to be left alone when I am detecting......When I am on group hunts with the local metal detecting club many are wearing masks and all of us wore them until mask mandates were lifted back in April here. We still wear them at indoor meetings since our club meets at a county run facility that requires mask wearing if there are more than 40 people at the meeting and most of our members are over 50 years old.
 
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This is an eye opening report. :shock::shock::shock:

Just twelve anti-vaxxers are responsible for almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content circulating on social media platforms. This new analysis of content posted or shared to social media over 812,000 times between February and March uncovers how a tiny group of determined anti-vaxxers is responsible for a tidal wave of disinformation.

You can find the full report (in pdf format) here:
https://252f2edd-1c8b-49f5-9bb2-cb5...d/f4d9b9_b7cedc0553604720b7137f8663366ee5.pdf

Like I said, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. A small percent of Americans looking to tell the majority what they can and can't do by squeaking the loudest.

Vaccine mandate is just around the corner people. No one to blame but the anti-vaxxers. That is how we lose Rights.

My bad, they are now labeled "Anti-Immune"

Just heard on the news that COVID-19 is up 80% in children just in the last week. Great job, you should be proud of yourselves. NOT!

I don't think it's right that I have to pay taxes on my 401k.
 
Like I said, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. A small percent of Americans looking to tell the majority what they can and can't do by squeaking the loudest.

Vaccine mandate is just around the corner people. No one to blame but the anti-vaxxers. That is how we lose Rights.

My bad, they are now labeled "Anti-Immune"

Just heard on the news that COVID-19 is up 80% in children just in the last week. Great job, you should be proud of yourselves. NOT!

I don't think it's right that I have to pay taxes on my 401k.


We lose rights only because some people refuse to stand up for their rights.

I make my decisions on my own nothing to do with politics or any group of people.

I listen to MY doctor NOT somebody else's doctor, and my doctor says he can suggest things he would like me to do, but that I don't have do what he suggest doing.

My doctor has never suggested that get a covid shot.
 
like i said, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. A small percent of americans looking to tell the majority what they can and can't do by squeaking the loudest. You're full of it. We're telling you we don't want a vax and not objecting to anyone who does. Yet you pop off at the mouth about how we should get the vax blah blah blah. Mirrors can be a dastardly thing.

Vaccine mandate is just around the corner people. No one to blame but the anti-vaxxers. That is how we lose rights. Good grief. You lose rights by giving them up. Like you're doing now. Don't blame people who don't want the vax. We prefer to keep our rights and not be mandated by the government. More government, less rights. See any communist country.

my bad, they are now labeled "anti-immune" this makes a difference to you ?

just heard on the news that covid-19 is up 80% in children just in the last week. Great job, you should be proud of yourselves. Not! which news outlet ?

i don't think it's right that i have to pay taxes on my 401k. move to another country where you think things will be better. Asia should be an option for you. They wear mask.

sigh !
 
This is an eye opening report. :shock::shock::shock:

Just twelve anti-vaxxers are responsible for almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content circulating on social media platforms. This new analysis of content posted or shared to social media over 812,000 times between February and March uncovers how a tiny group of determined anti-vaxxers is responsible for a tidal wave of disinformation.

You can find the full report (in pdf format) here:
https://252f2edd-1c8b-49f5-9bb2-cb5...d/f4d9b9_b7cedc0553604720b7137f8663366ee5.pdf

ah a report from a place that its entire mission statement is to silence those they disagree with.....such a credible source..... not biased at all....:laughing:
They missed Dr. malone on that list...you figure a guy on the founding research team for mnra should have made that list right?
 
You're full of it. We're telling you we don't want a vax and not objecting to anyone who does. Yet you pop off at the mouth about how we should get the vax blah blah blah. Mirrors can be a dastardly thing.

That is how we lose rights. Good grief. You lose rights by giving them up. Like you're doing now. Don't blame people who don't want the vax. We prefer to keep our rights and not be mandated by the government. More government, less rights. See any communist country.

Not! which news outlet ? FOX
https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-doctors-see-87-increase-of-covid-19-cases-in-kids-under-12

move to another country where you think things will be better. Asia should be an option for you. They wear mask.

You're telling us you think 30% of the population should have the Right to tell the other 70% what you will and will not do.

Lose Rights to a small percent of loud noisy people, yeah that is called a Democracy. Don't like it? take your own advice and move.
 
You're telling us you think 30% of the population should have the Right to tell the other 70% what you will and will not do. Can you read English ? We're not telling you to do anything. It's you and your kind telling us what we should do. What part of that do you not understand ?

Lose Rights to a small percent of loud noisy people, yeah that is called a Democracy. Don't like it? take your own advice and move.
What rights am I losing by not getting the vax ? What exactly ? Mandate the vax and I'm losing a right. Squeal louder. I have a construction company. I can build you a taller soapbox if you need one.
 
Ignorance is bliss. Just stinks that we all can't reach a resolution so we can end this foolishness. You would think some would stop thinking about themselves for maybe one second, but that clearly ISN'T going to happen. Tomorrow's generation is watching it all too, so now they think this is the norm. I cant imagine what this world will be like when my kids are my age. I seriously worry for them. You can make your own choices, that is the beauty of living in the U.S., but when your making a questionable choice, that could have potentially life threatening outcomes, whether your own life or other's, that just isn't cool.
 
What rights am I losing by not getting the vax ? What exactly ? Mandate the vax and I'm losing a right. Squeal louder. I have a construction company. I can build you a taller soapbox if you need one.

MY RIGHTS, not yours! You're not losing anything. Yeah, I don't want to be told I have to pay tax on my 401k, guess what? It doesn't matter because the majority decided otherwise.

I'm done trying to talk sense. Continue to squeak as loud as you want. The mandate is coming, and your squeaks won't stop it.

DONE!
 
MY RIGHTS, not yours! You're not losing anything. Yeah, I don't want to be told I have to pay tax on my 401k, guess what? It doesn't matter because the majority decided otherwise. BAWAHAAAA. You think the majority of people on this forum or anywhere else want their 401 taxed? Do you need some ocean front property in Arizona ? You need to research who wants to tax your 401.

I'm done trying to talk sense. Continue to squeak as loud as you want. The mandate is coming, and your squeaks won't stop it.

DONE!

Finally !
 
I'm seeing more posts deleted due to political content, and I fear(?) this thread will be shut not too far in the future.

Why should everyone get vaccinated? In order to cut out the ability of the virus to spread through unvaccinated carriers. The vaccine is NOT 100% effective, but if enough people are vaccinated, it won't be able to spread. Unvaccinated carriers (asymptomatic and otherwise) are allowing it to keep spreading.

Like Detector, I'm giving up at this point.

-- Tom
 
The CDC changed their masking guidance because 75% of the cases they studied in Mass. were vaccinated. There was no significant different in viral load between those vaccinated and those that were not. The delta variant can spread as easily between vaccinated people as it can the non vaccinated. The lambda variant is proving in a lab to be vaccine resistant.

The vaccine is not going to contain the spread.

*Edited to add* Also, research is showing another shot will increase the amount of antibodies to fight Lambda, but not the quality. Covid survivors with natural antibodies are showing a greater resistance to lambda than those vaccinated.
 
Like I said, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. A small percent of Americans looking to tell the majority what they can and can't do by squeaking the loudest.

Vaccine mandate is just around the corner people. No one to blame but the anti-vaxxers. That is how we lose Rights.

My bad, they are now labeled "Anti-Immune"

Just heard on the news that COVID-19 is up 80% in children just in the last week. Great job, you should be proud of yourselves. NOT!

I don't think it's right that I have to pay taxes on my 401k.

According to the CDC COVID-19 has killed 337 0-17 year olds in the U.S.. If kids get it, and plenty have had it and gotten over it their immunity will be a lot longer than vaccine immunity. According to the CDC influenza killed 480 children in the U.S. in 2018-2019.

Scapegoat the unvaccinated when in the U.K. and Israel two countries with the highest vaccination rates now have spikes in the number of cases. Last weekend 40,000 boosters were given in Israel.

I'm unvaccinated and after my last blood donation in June according to the Red Cross I had no antibodies for the virus. So I have not given it to anyone, and apparently no one has given it to me. I don't do a lot of shopping. I actually hate shopping in a store, maybe wal-mart every 2-3 weeks. Groceries I get near my home. It's never very crowded when I go. Actually most of the time it's pretty empty. I have not ate in a restaurant since last fall maybe. The only plus 70 year old people I am ever around are my brothers in-laws. That's not real often, and they are vaccinated. There are not a lot of folks in my department at work. The oldest near retirement have been vaccinated. There are plenty of young guys and I know some of them have had both shots.

I live in a fairly rural state. I do live in the largest city in the county. 192 have died of COVID-19 out of a population of roughly 90,000 in my county. Cases are spiking here. My county has 34% immunized.
 
I'm seeing more posts deleted due to political content, and I fear(?) this thread will be shut not too far in the future.

Why should everyone get vaccinated? In order to cut out the ability of the virus to spread through unvaccinated carriers. The vaccine is NOT 100% effective, but if enough people are vaccinated, it won't be able to spread. Unvaccinated carriers (asymptomatic and otherwise) are allowing it to keep spreading.

Like Detector, I'm giving up at this point.

-- Tom
The vaccinated can spread the virus to unvaccinated, and vaccinated persons.
 
The Southern border is not officially open as in you can't waltz right right though the border crossings, but figuratively it is open because Border Patrol is at times helping them out of the water. They turn themselves in and are put on a plane or bus somewhere. That's fact and not false. So many the Border Patrol is overwhelmed.

People aren't that naive I hope. The border is closed nothing to see here(wink,wink). In the mean time all these C19 positives and unvaccinated individuals are being transplanted to other parts of the country on the tax payers dime. Then they have the nerve to blame me for the continued C19 problems because I haven't took the vaccine. It's one of the the most hypocritical things I've ever seen.

We are talking a million people this year. Every month sets a record. Do you really think these people have been social distancing and wearing mask? I saw video today of what was said to be at least 1,000 individuals sitting shoulder to shoulder under an overpass being detained by the BP.

Again the priority can't be C19 when this kind of thing is going on.

Few people understand the dynamics between population growth and economics. The border will never be "closed".. at least until the people already inside the country start averaging 2.1 kids per couple. Why do you think the 'build the wall' turned into 'maybe next fall'?
 
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