The FBI Files: Dents Run Civil War Gold
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The whole problem with the Pradas and a future TV series is ....... What exactly are they going to film.
Dents Run is on PA DCNR property so they are not going to dig at all.
The PA Stonehenge site is also on PA DCNR property.
The Templar Castle and other Stonehenge site is in Nova Scotia where treasure hunting is illegal except on Oak Island.
The only excavation they ever attempted that I know of is the Viking Ship they also found in Nova Scotia and were very lucky to avoid criminal charges after officials found out what they did......one member of another site did an FOI and shared it with me,covering all the correspondence between FK and Nova Scotia.There is simply no way this group ever sticks a shovel in the ground in Nova Scotia again.They posted alot about how smart they were in buying up mineral rights in NS to skirt the no treasure hunting laws but I'd guess hit a snag with the mining regulations if they tried to get a permit to excavate that way.I often wonder what their ROI is on those mineral rights if they actualy bought any....I really doubt they did.
They solved the Beal ciphers and located that treasure but last I heard about that was that was on hold until politicans from Virginia could help out.....that has been on hold over 20 years now.
There is also some type of treasure they located in Philadelphia PA but if I remember correctly they would have to tear out someones basement wall to get to it......they also think someone may have already removed that treasure so it not worth razzing a house to look.
So unless they have found some other treasures I dont know about.....Which is very possible because it seems everytime they go for a walk in the woods they either locate a huge treasue or history changing structure.
There dosent seem to be anywhere for them to attempt to dig something up...... other then a recreation of some type.What is there to film other then this group sitting on their porch talking about all the great things they have found thru the years?
The really scary thing about all this is the son is involved in law enforcement.He was a township officer then went to work at Penn State in some type of LE position.By the evidence posted earlier in this thread it is obvious he was still involved in LE at least at time of FBI dig and if someone is this delusional and lies this frequently I dont think LE is a good position for him to have.
Dents Run is on PA DCNR property so they are not going to dig at all.
The PA Stonehenge site is also on PA DCNR property.
The Templar Castle and other Stonehenge site is in Nova Scotia where treasure hunting is illegal except on Oak Island.
The only excavation they ever attempted that I know of is the Viking Ship they also found in Nova Scotia and were very lucky to avoid criminal charges after officials found out what they did......one member of another site did an FOI and shared it with me,covering all the correspondence between FK and Nova Scotia.There is simply no way this group ever sticks a shovel in the ground in Nova Scotia again.They posted alot about how smart they were in buying up mineral rights in NS to skirt the no treasure hunting laws but I'd guess hit a snag with the mining regulations if they tried to get a permit to excavate that way.I often wonder what their ROI is on those mineral rights if they actualy bought any....I really doubt they did.
They solved the Beal ciphers and located that treasure but last I heard about that was that was on hold until politicans from Virginia could help out.....that has been on hold over 20 years now.
There is also some type of treasure they located in Philadelphia PA but if I remember correctly they would have to tear out someones basement wall to get to it......they also think someone may have already removed that treasure so it not worth razzing a house to look.
So unless they have found some other treasures I dont know about.....Which is very possible because it seems everytime they go for a walk in the woods they either locate a huge treasue or history changing structure.
There dosent seem to be anywhere for them to attempt to dig something up...... other then a recreation of some type.What is there to film other then this group sitting on their porch talking about all the great things they have found thru the years?
The really scary thing about all this is the son is involved in law enforcement.He was a township officer then went to work at Penn State in some type of LE position.By the evidence posted earlier in this thread it is obvious he was still involved in LE at least at time of FBI dig and if someone is this delusional and lies this frequently I dont think LE is a good position for him to have.
Thanks for sharing all tis good info!
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This is some great background information.
Note that if the younger Parada is/was a Licensed Peace Officer in the State of PA, it appears at the time he was an officer, he may have willingly and knowingly violated 2 lawful cease and desist orders issued by the State of PA DCNR, when they (Plaintiffs) continued to probe the Dents Run site for treasure after the orders were issued.
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Well, this can simply become fodder for the "found" (past tense) treasure. Because as you can see : The ONLY reason it's on "PA DCNR property" and that it's illegal to dig, is (drumroll) : A giant conspiracy to keep us from getting the treasure. It all makes perfect sense now. Right ? Hence what better material for a TV show than that ?
And the more that the govt. says "no thank you", then : The more that becomes proof positive for : Fabulous Treasure !!
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Here is the DOJ's reply. Highly recommend to anyone following the case they read it.
In my opinion, Plaintiff will lose on all requests in his latest motion. It's what we have been arguing from the beginning: Plaintiff has no evidence, just speculation and his beliefs. Those aren't evidence and Plaintiff just doesn't seem to get that.
A couple of notable quotes from the DOJ's reply:
"Plaintiff focuses primarily on the fruits of the search rather that the methods employed and otherwise seeks to micromanage the agenices search efforts"
"Plaintiff complains that because the FBI did not use search terms that Plaintiff would have liked, the search must be inadequate."
"Plaintiff presents mere speculation and no concrete evidence..."
In my opinion, Plaintiff will lose on all requests in his latest motion. It's what we have been arguing from the beginning: Plaintiff has no evidence, just speculation and his beliefs. Those aren't evidence and Plaintiff just doesn't seem to get that.
A couple of notable quotes from the DOJ's reply:
"Plaintiff focuses primarily on the fruits of the search rather that the methods employed and otherwise seeks to micromanage the agenices search efforts"
"Plaintiff complains that because the FBI did not use search terms that Plaintiff would have liked, the search must be inadequate."
"Plaintiff presents mere speculation and no concrete evidence..."
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Heck, what does the "method" of search matter IN THE FIRST PLACE ? Because, shucks, I thought the FBI *did* find the gold. Yet merely stole it . Hence Dennis should not be questioning the search methods, since, shucks : I thought it worked *just fine* to find (and then steal) the gold.
This all makes utterly no sense.
Go deep, this quote of yours ^ ^ is like insisting that magic is possible. Yet the ONLY reason the next person can't perform the magic trick, is because : "They didn't use the magic word formula correctly". That type logic becomes unfalsifiable .
In this case, it's *not* that there's not a fabulous treasure there, it's that the prior hunters didn't use the magic word formula words correctly. And no matter how much proof the govt. gives them of adequate search techniques, Dennis can find some strange detail (magic words/formulas/methods) they didn't employ. Thus presto: The search must have been inadequate.
And then what's supposed to happen ?? Is the govt. going to get into a p*ssing match with Dennis over which search techniques were adequate, and which weren't ? Eg.: GPR, dowsing rods, pendulums, probes, depth-to-dig to, day hunt vs night hunt, a little to the right, a little to the left, etc....
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Read the DOJ's attached memorandum just posted above (it doesn't appear anyone has read it as it only has one view so far, and it was me who viewed it) and also go back and read Plaintiffs response from January 1-9, By "search technique's", the DOJ is referring to their internal techniques employed to search the gov't database system for FOI requests. They aren't talking about in the field metal detecting techniques.
But the overall premise is correct, Plaintiff can't seem to realize they field millions of FOI requests per year and don't have the resources to search every little keyword the requester would like. Plaintiff seems to think they work for him and him alone, and any little thing they don't do for him, it's a "coverup"!
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You're right. My bad. I skipped over that. And yes, now I see that he is nickel-&-dime-ing the govt. for things he thinks amount to T's not-crossed. So that he can scream "fabulous treasure" !
Well.....since the CIA was mentioned in the document as an example from a previous case, parada will have a field day claiming the CIA was involved and that it proves the dents run gold was given to the Russians when it was dumped out the back of a C130 on a Russian runway,
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And the C130 plane was leaving Chemtrails, to poison the world population, during the entire flight over. And it all makes sense when you realize that : Govt. politicians are really : Lizard people !
Tsk tsk
And the C130 plane was leaving Chemtrails, to poison the world population, during the entire flight over. And it all makes sense when you realize that : Govt. politicians are really : Lizard people !
I knew you two would get it figured out!
Kinda surprised the FBI only used 2 search terms "Dents Run" and "Civil War Gold" when searching their data base.
Even though I am certain a deeper search won't prove any of FK's claims.....gold was found,night dig,numerous armored cars.....etc.I think the FBI could have done a better job of searching their data base.
Im aware after reading that memorandum that past rulings have given the FBI discretion about which or how many terms are used ....as long are they are deemed suitable.
In a rare instance I agree with FK that a better job could have been done in searching their records.But I also agree with GoDeep that plaintiff motion will be denied due to the past rulings.
Even though I am certain a deeper search won't prove any of FK's claims.....gold was found,night dig,numerous armored cars.....etc.I think the FBI could have done a better job of searching their data base.
Im aware after reading that memorandum that past rulings have given the FBI discretion about which or how many terms are used ....as long are they are deemed suitable.
In a rare instance I agree with FK that a better job could have been done in searching their records.But I also agree with GoDeep that plaintiff motion will be denied due to the past rulings.
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More problems for Dennis.
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If there were horrors, this would be one of them. First, the land is owned by the state, all Reb treasures belong to the federal government. If I was Dennis and crew, I would hire the best attorney that I could afford. I do not believe the story, and I am not sure that Dennis does.
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Tom, well, well, we meet again, we were both on another site, and under a forum name, Honest Samuel, good luck.
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On the surface, only using two search terms may appear inadequate, but the DOJ noted that they located the main file and that within that main file, the entries into the file are serialized and typically entered in chronological order. Having found the main file and with the entries being serialized, they know they turned over everything (with the exception of the exemptions they are claiming). There was no reason to search more terms once they found the main file.
Page 6 of the DOJ's reply attached above, quote: "Within each case file, pertinent documents of interest are “serialized,” or assigned a number in the order which the document is added to the file, typically in chronological order. Id. ¶ 35."
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Another story on Dents Run dropped, the alleged story Plaintiff has been teasing for weeks now:
Edit, you have to enter a email address to read, but there is no signup required or CC. After reading it, it's just a rehash of the long held accusations and speculation of Plaintiff, nothing new in it:
Edit, you have to enter a email address to read, but there is no signup required or CC. After reading it, it's just a rehash of the long held accusations and speculation of Plaintiff, nothing new in it:
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He posted two additional links to this story, here is one of them...
FBI records deepen mystery of dig for Civil War-era gold
The court-ordered release of a trove of government photos, videos, maps and other documents involving the FBI's secretive search for Civil War-era gold has a treasure hunter more convinced than ever of a coverup — and just as determined to prove it. Dennis Parada waged a legal battle to force...
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