The FBI Files: Dents Run Civil War Gold
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But this ^ ^ fails to take into account how Dennis defines "finds". He defines it as having narrowed down a fabulous treasure to a certain swamp. Or a certain cave. Or a certain mountain. Or a certain valley, etc.... And now it's just a matter of overcoming govt. red tape obstacles, or getting a detector that can go 6 meters deep, or bringing in heavy equipment, or retrieving the stolen loot, etc... But rest-assured : He's "found" (past tense), a treasure.
So you see, he can still not be "lying", once you understand his definition of "found".
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Tom, I don't doubt Dennis "believes" there was gold there, but he also believes its possible there wasn't as he's admitted as such, but he also knows there is a lot of evidence that doesn't support his "belief", hence why he's repeatedly had to lie, ban people and get entire threads deleted, to keep the saga going (and get a TV show and the attention he so desperately craves).
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Ok go-Deep , here's my push-back of this ^ ^ : Notice that to say it's "possible" that the treasure wasn't there, doesn't mean that he's acknowledged (admitted) that it wasn't or isn't " there".
He can still hold on to "belief" (and be quite sincere, and not "lying"), by merely pointing out to you that he never said it WASN'T there. But only that it's POSSIBLE that it wasn't there.
There can be things that we say are possibly not at certain places (by our own admission), yet we believe that they ARE there. So Dennis can make this "possible" statement, and still say (in the same breath) that it's 99.9% certain that it WAS there. And that his admission of "possibly not there" is only .01% probability.
Hence again then : He wouldn't be "lying".
I know I know, neither of us can convince the other.
But just sayin', that if SS-wonder's question of legal liability for fraud were to become the question, then : Dennis could get around his use of the word "possible", by adding the qualifier : "... but not LIKELY". And hence hold on to "belief", and not "lie".
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Ok go-Deep , here's my push-back of this ^ ^ : Notice that to say it's "possible" that the treasure wasn't there, doesn't mean that he's acknowledged (admitted) that it wasn't or isn't " there".
He can still hold on to "belief" (and be quite sincere, and not "lying"), by merely pointing out to you that he never said it WASN'T there. But only that it's POSSIBLE that it wasn't there.
There can be things that we say are possibly not at certain places (by our own admission), yet we believe that they ARE there. So Dennis can make this "possible" statement, and still say (in the same breath) that it's 99.9% certain that it WAS there. And that his admission of "possibly not there" is only .01% probability.
Hence again then : He wouldn't be "lying".
I know I know, neither of us can convince the other.
Yeah, going down the rabbit hole of what Dennis believes or not is a no win. Best to focus on the evidence and his statements, not what he does or doesn't believe, or one will go mad....
All I saw at 7 on Fox was Jesse Watters,
He updated the Facebook post shortly after Ron made his post here. Said they were waiting until the Judge rules on this motion before appearing on Fox. I'm local to the area. It's been on all the local PA news as if there is some dramatic turn in the case.
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I see it now says its on Tuesday night a 7.
Yeah, i mean this latest AP article doesn't introduce anything new we haven't known for months. It's baffling, it's kind of like a video finally going viral on youtube months after its released.
Anyone is free to contact the AP reporter to share their stories. I'm sure they have been feeding this reporter a steady diet of misinformation and case developments as it has progressed. I would presume this is the final flame before the case burning out and all involved seem to sense it with the judge ruling soon. Perhaps this is the best, last chance to make his plea through mainstream media.
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I see he has revised the post again. I for one, won't be watching.
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And likewise, anyone with contrary views is allowed to try to get the news to give them a "voice" too.
I once knew a lady who worked for a large newspaper in our area, whose sole job was fact-checker. Because newspapers run the risk of getting sued for false-reporting (slander, libel, etc...), the bigger papers often had an appointed employee whose sole job it was to double-check info (on stuff originating from them. Obviously not stuff that they're simply repeating/running from A.P., etc...).
So too do I assume that AP *must* have a fact-checker there. Thus, what's to stop one of us from contacting them and saying "Wait a second with this coverage you're about to do. Because it's got a number of flaws in it....". And perhaps their fact checker would give you an audience. Or simply alert them to the link to this post.
I nominate Go-Deep for this job. I'll be the first to donate a 12 pack of his favorite brew as gratitude. Anyone else want to vote for Go-deep nomination ? Ok Go-deep, you're elected. Git on the phone tomorrow, ask to talk to their fact-check dept, and .... We will be forever grateful.
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Anybody been following Plaintiff over on his Facebook page? Someone was questioning him about a bizarre claim he made last night, and I woke up to find the guys post deleted and the guy apparently banned. Like all of Plaintiffs posts, I screen grab them and save them, check it out below.
Think about it, he's saying he has info that proves a night dig and cover up and he's going to share it with the public, but apparently not the judge! Bizarre!
Think about it, he's saying he has info that proves a night dig and cover up and he's going to share it with the public, but apparently not the judge! Bizarre!
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Excellent capture. Bravo. Mind boggling.
HOWEVER : Something tells me that Dennis would dream up a good reason why he's doing things bass-ackwards like that. Like how his proof would be white-washed by a corrupt judge or FBI. Hence he's going to let the court of public opinion decide. Because he "doesn't trust the judge", or whatever.
There could be SOME remote stretch of thinking where : A person sincerely believes in a fabulous treasure, yet they don't tell certain persons at certain times. And have some convoluted reason why. For example : A person close-to-me , who is swoon my conspiracy theories: I have sometimes asked this person : "Why don't you just go public with this astonishing news ?", and this person always has theories of "they will just come shut me down, or harm me, or spy on me, or censor me", etc....
Yes, this is *just* how deluded people can be. I realize others here are calling this evidence of his known fabrication. But .... I still think he's got some crazed reason why the public can be trusted, and the judge can't.
Now as to why he doesn't tell his facebook reasons why he simply doesn't tell the viewers/readers this logic (ie.: Why he didn't just answer Chris Harrington's post), I dunno. But for sure once all his legal channels are closed, then when he releases supposed damming evidence, it can never be controverted. Since, shucks, his legal window of time already came to a close. So it will generate public sympathy that he didn't have his day-in-court with the proof for his case .
So it will be a win-win for him to release the info later. And as for it not being a win-win NOW, is that he probably feels that the judge won't be fair. Or that govt. goons will come and rub him out to silence him. Or some convoluted explanation.
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And I used to think it was only "most favored nation" status for JUST this single D.R. legend. But it appears that this also applies to skepticism/scrutiny of other legends too. So if you plan to cast a skeptical eye on magic wands or ghost stories there, you have to tread VERY softly . Bummer
That facebook poster hit the nail right on the head there is simply no reason to not throw all your cards on the table.I believe GoDeep posted almost the exact same thing many pages back in this thread.
Their lawyers won't file anything they know to be untrue......for example they wont file a motion stating they have evidence of a night dig when they have none.
FK can crop out the time stamp on one of his trail camera photos and post on the internet or give to a reporter and say this is evidence of the night dig.But if he does this in a court filing there will be serious consequences.
That is why the huge discrepancy in what is filed in court compared to what he posts on facebook or elsewhere.
I'd say he is walking a thin line as it is now for the FBI requesting sanctions about him having to pay the FBI's legal fees.
I'd also guess this is why he is trying to hype and promote this latest ruling as much as he can because he has been told by his lawyers this court case is breathing its last breaths...and he needs the attention now because there is nothing to follow.
One last guess is FK will promise he will file another new lawsuit but until then his lawyers advised him to keep quiet and not release the evidence.It might also be a production company that wont let him release the evidence because they want to reveal on a tv show......this is all rinse and repeat for this group and has been going on for years.
Their lawyers won't file anything they know to be untrue......for example they wont file a motion stating they have evidence of a night dig when they have none.
FK can crop out the time stamp on one of his trail camera photos and post on the internet or give to a reporter and say this is evidence of the night dig.But if he does this in a court filing there will be serious consequences.
That is why the huge discrepancy in what is filed in court compared to what he posts on facebook or elsewhere.
I'd say he is walking a thin line as it is now for the FBI requesting sanctions about him having to pay the FBI's legal fees.
I'd also guess this is why he is trying to hype and promote this latest ruling as much as he can because he has been told by his lawyers this court case is breathing its last breaths...and he needs the attention now because there is nothing to follow.
One last guess is FK will promise he will file another new lawsuit but until then his lawyers advised him to keep quiet and not release the evidence.It might also be a production company that wont let him release the evidence because they want to reveal on a tv show......this is all rinse and repeat for this group and has been going on for years.
