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[Sultan of Swing]

Hello everyone, just began detecting in April. Purchased an AT PRO and Pro Pointer. Had awesome beginners luck and found a 28' standing Liberty Quarter, 2 50's Washington's, and a 20' Merc, in my own backyard. Started hunting old public places and realized I was about 40 years late to the party. I spent countless hours/days with not so great results. I did manage to get 2 more Washington's, 3 more Merc's and a handful of Wheaties. A couple of 70's foreign coins, British 2 pence, and Swiss 10 Rappa, a small silver ring, about a 1/2 coffee can of clad , a couple cool relics, and a boat load of trash. I live about 10 miles from the ocean in the N.E. so I decided to try the beach. My wife came along and she loved it so much that we decided to get her a beach machine. Wasn't sure how often we would do the beach and wanted something lighter for her. We ended up buying a M L Vanquish 540 Pro pack with 8" and 12" coils. Awesome affordable machine. But NOT water proof. I recently got my first permission to hunt a private 1650's colonial house with a four acre lot. The home owner said a friend of his had done it about ten years ago. I figured it would still be better than the public places and boy was I right. I just finished today and ended up finding over 20 coins ( excluding clad) . Starting with the oldest, 1781 Hibernia 1/2 cent, 1795 large cent, 1820 large cent, 1840 large cent, 1895 Indian, 1906 Indian, 1924 SLQ, no date Buffalo, 1936 Buffalo, 1938 Merc, 1941 Merc, 1943 war nickel, 1944 s Philippines One Centavo, and 12 Wheaties. Couldn't be happier. So after that long winded intro, I have a question. Twice in the last week I've had solid two way repeatable non bouncy high tones 93/94 AT PRO, and 33/34 Vanquish, with the plug out and about 12" deep both machines still had rock solid signals but nothing in the hole with the carot. I went down a couple inches and rechecked the hole with the Vanquish and still had the same solid signal and re pin pointed, and it indicated that it was in the side wall cut another 5" out of the side and gently removed the 1/2 plug out of the hole. Thats when I completely lost the signal. As if it never happened. Rechecked the hole with both machines and the pin Pointer and nothing. Does anyone know what causes this.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Welcome to FMDF .

Oh, and as for east coast Large cents and half cents : Since you are from the east coast, get used to it. You can blindfold yourself, and throw a rock in any direction. Wherever the rock lands is sure to be within 10 ft. of a Large Cent.

 

[Sultan of Swing]

I hope your right, I think they're cool coins. These are in pretty rough shape, hope to find some nicer ones. Any ideas on the vanishing targets. Is this normal?

 

[markinmichigan]

Really glad you're here!! Regarding your question, could be EMI. I have an ATP (sitting in the corner now) and that machine was too chatty for me.

Mark in Michigan

 

[Cherry Picker]

Welcome from Dodge City

 

[Xxray]

Sometimes you will find a metal object with a "halo", a surrounding crust of rusted iron. These often trick detectors with an alert of a potentially desirable item, and once you dig around and break up the halo, the signal magically disappears [sometimes to the extent that even a pinpointer won't alert, sometimes not]. Depends on if it disintegrates into dust or chunks remain.

Not much of a defense against this, just try to keep an eye for discolored, broken up iron, and/or the remains of what caused it, often a nail.

 

[too_pointer]

Welcome to FMDF .

Oh, and as for east coast Large cents and half cents : Since you are from the east coast, get used to it. You can blindfold yourself, and throw a rock in any direction. Wherever the rock lands is sure to be within 10 ft. of a Large Cent.

Same ole remarks !! Ca. has a ton of issues right now, so deal with them, not in here ?

 

[Leave-No-Coins-Behind]

Welcome from PA!

 

[MasonDixonMding]

First thing is where are the pics? We like pics. Toasted or not. As for your lost signal it could be as Xxray said. Or with the age of stuff your digging it could be pewter I have had this happen to me just recently. When pewters bin in the ground for a long time it can crumble to dust. A spoon or fork. Most anything was made of pewter back than. Sounds like your off to a great start. Welcome from Maryland

 

[chillforlife]

Welcome from Iderho. Sounds like a rusty nail halo as has been said. Very frustrating. Keep up the fight. And have fun.

 

[Sultan of Swing]

Really glad you're here!! Regarding your question, could be EMI. I have an ATP (sitting in the corner now) and that machine was too chatty for me.

Mark in Michigan

Thanks for the welcome, and glad to be here. As for the ATP I agree. My wife has arm issues, so unfortunately she's unable to swing the light weight Vanquish for more than 15 min. So it's become my go to machine. Target ID is way more consistent, seems to pin point better ( targets are usually centered in the plug), works awesome in wet saltwater sand, and almost no chatter. I've actually been thinking about buying an Equinox 700 and selling the ATP.

 

[Sultan of Swing]

First thing is where are the pics? We like pics. Toasted or not. As for your lost signal it could be as Xxray said. Or with the age of stuff your digging it could be pewter I have had this happen to me just recently. When pewters bin in the ground for a long time it can crumble to dust. A spoon or fork. Most anything was made of pewter back than. Sounds like your off to a great start. Welcome from Maryland

 

[Sultan of Swing]

First thing is where are the pics? We like pics. Toasted or not. As for your lost signal it could be as Xxray said. Or with the age of stuff your digging it could be pewter I have had this happen to me just recently. When pewters bin in the ground for a long time it can crumble to dust. A spoon or fork. Most anything was made of pewter back than. Sounds like your off to a great start. Welcome from Maryland

Thanks for the info. You're going to notice some strange post times. I work 3rd shift 11:00 to 7:00 EST, but my works 1st ,so I can go detecting all week if I want . These are the only pics in my phone so far, but I'll take more.

 

[Sultan of Swing]

Thanks for the info. You're going to notice some strange post times. I work 3rd shift 11:00 to 7:00 EST, but my works 1st ,so I can go detecting all week if I want . These are the only pics in my phone so far, but I'll take more.

 

[Sultan of Swing]

Sometimes you will find a metal object with a "halo", a surrounding crust of rusted iron. These often trick detectors with an alert of a potentially desirable item, and once you dig around and break up the halo, the signal magically disappears [sometimes to the extent that even a pinpointer won't alert, sometimes not]. Depends on if it disintegrates into dust or chunks remain.

Not much of a defense against this, just try to keep an eye for discolored, broken up iron, and/or the remains of what caused it, often a nail.

Thanks, that's good info moving forward.

 

[Sultan of Swing]

Thanks to all replied and welcomed me. I'll be taking pictures of the rest of the items listed and posting them. Hopefully some new stuff as well.

 

[TampaBayBrad]

I've actually been thinking about buying an Equinox 700 and selling the ATP.

Good idea. You can submerge the 700 at the beach too. Gotta get a decent scoop to go water hunting, then you're set.

 

[MasonDixonMding]

Thanks for posting your pics. The Hibernia is in great shape. You have some very nice finds that’s a great start.
As for up grading .I have not used a at pro but I did swing a f75. I think they are comparable machines. I now swing the 900. In a open field with a few scattered thing here and there, my f75 would hold its own. But go in the heavy nail site and the 900 picks good stuff out left and right. The main thing is just get out and swing!
Good luck

 

[Sultan of Swing]

I've got a CKG with a carbon fiber shaft. I've been in the shallow surf with the Vanquish,

 

[Sultan of Swing]

Hit post by accident. With the Vanquish and had it leaning against me while taking clad out of the scoop. A wave knocked it off me and caught it just in time. Almost murdered it at about 2 weeks old.