Does everyone always take the trash with them from digging up?

[Terry Soloman]

Lol!

thats the nice thing with the GTI imaging feature.....i'm not diggin anything that sizes bigger than a coin when i'm coin shootin

When they make one that says, "This is not a 2" pvc pipe full of 1-oz Silver coins, it's a Coke can," let me know!

 

[Midknight]

There have been times when I was a few hundred yards from the nearest trash can or the truck. Many times when I hunt I end up filling up my pouch with trash at least once during the hunt. I simply walk to the nearest trash can, or in some cases the truck, and throw it away.

There is no excuse for not taking away the trash you dig... After all, carrying more trash just means you burn a little bit more energy at the end of the day.

 

[gtoast99]

WOAH WOAH WOAH -
Wait just a minute...

So Iv stopped taking the trash with me I can't be obligated to cleans others peoples trash for free. So i just fill my plugs as best as possible and move the trash to the side.

I could fill a 5 gallon bucket a day here. People are the biggest litter bugs here.

Nobody sees the disconnect here? Someone who digs up trash and leaves it lying around complaining about other people littering? Wow, I thought I'd seen it all.

Now this isn't targeted at Needler, but to ANYONE who thinks it's okay to leave their trash lying about. If you're willing to go out and swing a detector and dig up targets for hours on end, it's not too much work for you to dispose of your trash properly instead of littering up the place. This is exactly what gets detecting banned. Getting rid of trash is as much a part of the hobby as digging it.

I will admit, I have left large objects in the ground before, for one very simple reason. Once I've determined what the object is, I think about whether it would cause more harm to leave it or take it. If it's sharp and dangerous, I will take it with me. But if it's some great big, yet harmless, object like a plowpoint or something, it would do more damage to the grounds to pull it out and leave a great big messy hole than to simply fill in my small plug.

It's all about respect. Respect the property you're hunting (public and private) and respect those around you who also use that property. On your own land in the middle of the woods and don't care? Sure, leave it about, doesn't bother anyone but you. In a public park or on another person's land? Seriously, it's not that hard to throw it out. Leaving your trash lying around is disrespectful to the land, to everyone around you, and to our hobby in general. Plus it's just plain lazy.

Some of you may complain that stuff is too big or heavy to carry about with you. If that's too difficult for you, don't dig the big targets!! But if you do want to dig them and not have to carry them around with you, get a bag (I use a canvas type messenger bag) and leave it in a central location to your hunt. When you trash pouch gets full (or if you hit something big like a license plate or sharp like a hunting arrowhead), take it over to your bag and empty it out. Repeat until it's time to go, moving the larger bag as needed, and then head out with it. Don't complain that you can't throw it out at home because your trashcan is too full - there are plenty of places to dispose of it, or you could *gasp* just pay for it to be removed like you ought to. If you can't afford to throw out your trash from metal detecting, don't go metal detecting (and my advice would be to find a better paying job).

Common sense and respect, that's all I'm asking here. And I don't think that's too much to ask. If that simple thing is too much for you, you really ought to think about getting a different hobby, before you ruin mine.

 

[needler420]

WOAH WOAH WOAH -
Wait just a minute...





Nobody sees the disconnect here? Someone who digs up trash and leaves it lying around complaining about other people littering? Wow, I thought I'd seen it all.

Now this isn't targeted at Needler, but to ANYONE who thinks it's okay to leave their trash lying about. If you're willing to go out and swing a detector and dig up targets for hours on end, it's not too much work for you to dispose of your trash properly instead of littering up the place. This is exactly what gets detecting banned. Getting rid of trash is as much a part of the hobby as digging it.

I will admit, I have left large objects in the ground before, for one very simple reason. Once I've determined what the object is, I think about whether it would cause more harm to leave it or take it. If it's sharp and dangerous, I will take it with me. But if it's some great big, yet harmless, object like a plowpoint or something, it would do more damage to the grounds to pull it out and leave a great big messy hole than to simply fill in my small plug.

It's all about respect. Respect the property you're hunting (public and private) and respect those around you who also use that property. On your own land in the middle of the woods and don't care? Sure, leave it about, doesn't bother anyone but you. In a public park or on another person's land? Seriously, it's not that hard to throw it out. Leaving your trash lying around is disrespectful to the land, to everyone around you, and to our hobby in general. Plus it's just plain lazy.

Some of you may complain that stuff is too big or heavy to carry about with you. If that's too difficult for you, don't dig the big targets!! But if you do want to dig them and not have to carry them around with you, get a bag (I use a canvas type messenger bag) and leave it in a central location to your hunt. When you trash pouch gets full (or if you hit something big like a license plate or sharp like a hunting arrowhead), take it over to your bag and empty it out. Repeat until it's time to go, moving the larger bag as needed, and then head out with it. Don't complain that you can't throw it out at home because your trashcan is too full - there are plenty of places to dispose of it, or you could *gasp* just pay for it to be removed like you ought to. If you can't afford to throw out your trash from metal detecting, don't go metal detecting (and my advice would be to find a better paying job).

Common sense and respect, that's all I'm asking here. And I don't think that's too much to ask. If that simple thing is too much for you, you really ought to think about getting a different hobby, before you ruin mine.

Your a hypocrite as well. You dug it so throw it away then. Again only when it benefits you is it ok. Where was you're bag for those items you admit to leaving? If it was too big for a bag then you should have hired a tow truck because according to you once you dig it its yours.

You're telling me I should pay a higher trash bill to get it removed. Well why didn't you pay to remove the items you found no matter how large? because a tow truck cost more then paying more for a garbage bill makes it ok?

If you're going to tell me i should pay a higher trash bill or find a better job then you should have paid what ever it costs to get rid of your items as well no matter the size or how sharp the item is.

 

[coinwizard]

There is no reason why everyone should not take all there rubish with them unless it's too big to lift! Obviously if it's large our land owners are just pleased if we take it out of the field and place it by the gate! This way they won't hit it with farm machinery and damage expensive equipment ! Small stuff takes no time to place in a junk pouch which you empty when you pop back to car for a break! Over a year this can be sorted! Our club on average makes £300 a year weighing in scrap metal!!! So take it with you!! You wouldn't like a child cutting themselves and getting tetnus because you "couldn't be bothered". Sorry rant over!!!! Lol

 

[Coin_Master]

I have a pretty good feeling that needler is a young person like myself.(19)

When your young, you may not always know the rules or the policies about something. Your not going to fly right the 1st time.

Needler, your there to find coins, your not there to be the groundskeeper for the park.

Of course your not required to pick up the plastic bottles, paper plates, and other trash that's on the ground.

Carry a belt mount pouch with you, like this one:

When you find a bottle cap or a nail, just toss it in your pouch. I've hunted for 3 hours, and I've never filled the one just like that.

If you find a piece of metal that's big, just put it back in the hole, don't leave it laying around. That's about the same as a dog owner throwing their dung back onto the grass after they picked it up.

How would you feel if you left something out of the plug, and some little kid stepped on it and cut their foot? I would feel like crap.

Your not going to do good the 1st time, no one does. If you take that small pouch home with you full of nails, canslaw, etc, that's a little favor your doing to the ground.

 

[SamFisher]

I have been to a certain park after a long weekend that held a few birthday parties. There was trash EVERYWHERE! The crows and pigeons were rifling though it, it was blowing around.... I did not touch one piece of surface trash, but did carry out my dug trash.

 

[needler420]

I have a pretty good feeling that needler is a young person like myself.(19)

When your young, you may not always know the rules or the policies about something. Your not going to fly right the 1st time.

Needler, your there to find coins, your not there to be the groundskeeper for the park.

Of course your not required to pick up the plastic bottles, paper plates, and other trash that's on the ground.

Carry a belt mount pouch with you, like this one:

When you find a bottle cap or a nail, just toss it in your pouch. I've hunted for 3 hours, and I've never filled the one just like that.

If you find a piece of metal that's big, just put it back in the hole, don't leave it laying around. That's about the same as a dog owner throwing their dung back onto the grass after they picked it up.

How would you feel if you left something out of the plug, and some little kid stepped on it and cut their foot? I would feel like crap.

Your not going to do good the 1st time, no one does. If you take that small pouch home with you full of nails, canslaw, etc, that's a little favor your doing to the ground.

Yeah I normally take what fits it my pocket. Past that its not my responsibility. Technically its part of the property anyway all I'm doing is surfacing the item not putting the item there. Or like today I did my first park so there was trash cans every few feet so then of course I dump it.

Unlike others though who say if the item it too big they rebury it I NEVER rebury a item unless its infrastructure of course. I always dig it up no matter and move it to a safe spot so that the metal doesn't damage the ground or water etc. Even when I use to carry my five gallon bucket though one day I dug old cut up cast iron pipes i think. The thing weighs 10+ pounds alone.

 

[Coin_Master]

Don't leave any thing laying or "resurface" it, as you described.

Just tuck it back in the hole if its too big.

If someone sees you "resurfacing", mainly a park and rec worker, there will no longer be any metal detecting allowed there,

 

[gtoast99]

Your a hypocrite as well. You dug it so throw it away then. Again only when it benefits you is it ok.

Did you purposely ignore what I said, or did you not understand it? I'll assume the latter, and try to explain again.

I didn't say it was okay when it benefits me. I said it was okay when leaving it showed greater respect for the land and those around me than digging it up. I may find a Ford F150 in a public park. Does it make more sense to dig a giant hole to remove it, or leave it in place? I believe you'll find the latter to be the case. In fact, in many case where MDing is legal but restricted it would actually violate the law to dig up these large objects as a maximum size of excavations is regulated.

So I'm not being hypocritical, I'm using common sense and respect. I would ask that you do the same, though I wouldn't have thought it necessary to do so.

You're telling me I should pay a higher trash bill to get it removed. Well why didn't you pay to remove the items you found no matter how large? because a tow truck cost more then paying more for a garbage bill makes it ok?

No, as explained, because it would damage the surrounding property to a great degree. But if it's out of the ground, I will properly dispose of it, of course. Common sense and respect.

 

[needler420]

Don't leave any thing laying or "resurface" it, as you described.

Just tuck it back in the hole if its too big.

If someone sees you "resurfacing", mainly a park and rec worker, there will no longer be any metal detecting allowed there,

If its a park then it'll have trash near by. I only surface items that are in the middle of no where with no place to dump them.

Every so often the prisoners or trusties come out and clean the surface trash here.

Did you purposely ignore what I said, or did you not understand it? I'll assume the latter, and try to explain again.

I didn't say it was okay when it benefits me. I said it was okay when leaving it showed greater respect for the land and those around me than digging it up. I may find a Ford F150 in a public park. Does it make more sense to dig a giant hole to remove it, or leave it in place? I believe you'll find the latter to be the case. In fact, in many case where MDing is legal but restricted it would actually violate the law to dig up these large objects as a maximum size of excavations is regulated.

So I'm not being hypocritical, I'm using common sense and respect. I would ask that you do the same, though I wouldn't have thought it necessary to do so.



No, as explained, because it would damage the surrounding property to a great degree. But if it's out of the ground, I will properly dispose of it, of course. Common sense and respect.

Using a whole car is a bad example. You admitted to leaving trash and I'm sure it wasn't the size of a car. Id bet it didn't even weight 50 pounds you just left it because you didn't want to take responsibility. I can't see many finding a whole car. And if its just a bumper that only weighs a little its just a awkward item to carry.

 

[run]

I take all trash that I dig so I don't hit it next time. Trash goes in my garbage can.

 

[Vethraxx]

I ALWAYS take everything I dig with me. Only once did I fill my hip pouch up with trash. I walked to the nearest trash can in the park, and emptied it. Any one that reburies a can, or leaves their trash on the ground is a lazy-butt litter bug. No exceptions. If you need a bigger pouch get one, or bring a back pack.

Even if you are digging cellar holes WAY out in the woods, be the better man, and pick up as much litter as you can, bring 5 gallon buckets with you if need be. Leave it cleaner than when you found it.

I leave parks and the schools I hunt cleaner and SAFER than when I got there. It scares me to think a child let a lone a dog can step on some of the crazy stuff I find. Hypo needles, tazer darts, bottle caps with the broken neck in them. Pudding lids that are no better then razor blades, the sharp can slaw, etc. Anyone leaving those things behind, after locating them with their detector should have their union card revoked... oh wait, we don't have union cards.... pity.

 

[dogpound]

Don't leave any thing laying or "resurface" it, as you described.

Just tuck it back in the hole if its too big.

If someone sees you "resurfacing", mainly a park and rec worker, there will no longer be any metal detecting allowed there,

exactly...if your not gonna take it with ya atleast by puttin it back in the hole its outa sight from others and park officials, atleast this way when they cut the grass the object isn't just shredded up with the mower and made into a projectile.
i take the trash with me because alot of times i'm detecting the same parks over and over and by gettin the metal outa the ground helps to find those masked deeper finds.

 

[Captain Silver]

Trash gets removed.

If I dig it up, I take it with me, plain and simple. And if I have the room to lug it, the surface trash that I see gets carried out as well. Either it gets taken home if it's recyclable, or deposited in the nearest trash can if it's not. Now, if I come across something stupid large, like an engine block, well, that I gotta leave behind..If only everyone would help clean up just a little bit, the world would be a neater place to live.

 

[needler420]

exactly...if your not gonna take it with ya atleast by puttin it back in the hole its outa sight from others and park officials, atleast this way when they cut the grass the object isn't just shredded up with the mower and made into a projectile.
i take the trash with me because alot of times i'm detecting the same parks over and over and by gettin the metal outa the ground helps to find those masked deeper finds.

That's a sure lazy method just to hide it from offical people in protection of you're hobby only? What ever happened to the damage those metallic items do to the ground and water, environment etc? That's very selfish if you ask me and only looking after your hobby.

Also i don't just leave the items any where for mowers and people to trip on I move them to safe spots and pile them together out of the way of being a danger. I just don't take them is all. I don't actually literally leave it next to the hole.

My 2nd plan was all these piles iv made in random locations if no one comes to clean them sometime then maybe one day instead of detecting ill just walk around with a few buckets and go back for what i dug only.

Iv still yet to rebury something though out of respect to the environment. The only way id rebury a metallic object I dug was if I literally couldn't physically take it out.

In my opinion reburying a item just to hide it from people and official people is more disgusting then at least stacking them in a pile somewhere. Only if you physically can't get it out the ground could I do that. I have a feeling though lots of you who say they rebury it could have taken it out of the hole.

 

[Frank1960]

I take everything I "DIG" up with me if you don't or can't recycle then at least find a dumpser and toss it in there. Only time I pick things up above ground is when I am in the woods hiking to my fishing spot. I always carry a plastic grocery bag or two with me for that purpose but I don't pick things up above ground in the parks there are people who get paid for that.

 

[dogpound]

That's a sure lazy method just to hide it from offical people in protection of you're hobby only? What ever happened to the damage those metallic items do to the ground and water, environment etc? That's very selfish if you ask me and only looking after your hobby.

Also i don't just leave the items any where for mowers and people to trip on I move them to safe spots and pile them together.

i didn't say that i do this, i just said its better than leaving it "surfaced" or next to the hole like you said you do.....which is basically littering

 

[Brittany-Guy]

I'm not 19. I remember picking up discarded cigaret packages for the foil insert and bringing them home, soaking them in the bathroom sink and rolling the foil into a ball
to bring ( I don't remember where) so they could be used in the War effort. I was 5 years old then. I did it until the War ended in 1945. Times are different now.

I have brought home every bit of trash I have dug. I recall a forum member saying he threw his trash into a bucket to sort later. When going through his 'trash' he found something that wasn't trash after all. I sort my trash and when i have enough to bring to the salvage yard and cash it in, not for the war effort these days but to help keep our country clean by Recycling. Times are different and so are people. I would not feel right if I left any trash where I hunted, it's as simple as that. To each his/her own.

 

[zeemang]

I always take it, if i don{t i know i{m just going to keep finding it again next hunt...