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Does everyone always take the trash with them from digging up?

Like most of these guys, I take my trash as well.

My hunts avg 1.5hrs so I'm never loaded down with garbage. I've been keeping my trash in a bucket just to see how much I'llaccumulated after 1 year. I've been at it for almost a month and have a sizeable pile already.
 
Take the trash

Yes,i take the trash as long as its not heavy iron,the next time you hunt there will be less trash to deal with,also you are performing a public service,cleaning the area of trash,at the beach it's cleaning up the hazards that can puncture someones feet,you would not believe the dangerous sharp items i find in the wet sand,happy hunting,Earl
 
Trash

Yes, I always take the trash. Even what I didn't dig up. I love my state and want it to be beautiful.:gottaluv: If I'm out digging, I can do my part!
 
Interesting thread. Nice to know how each individual handles the issue of trash finds.

Like someone said, ..." if I dig it, I own it." That pretty much the way I think.

I always wear a backpack though, and take some grocery bags. Once a grocery bag gets filled, it goes into the backpack. Wear the backpack home. No problem.

Plus, I go out of my way to pick up broken glass. I hate broken glass. :roll:
 
Carol K said:
Interesting thread. Nice to know how each individual handles the issue of trash finds.

Like someone said, ..." if I dig it, I own it." That pretty much the way I think.

I always wear a backpack though, and take some grocery bags. Once a grocery bag gets filled, it goes into the backpack. Wear the backpack home. No problem.

Plus, I go out of my way to pick up broken glass. I hate broken glass. :roll:
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If you pick up broken glass where I'm at you would literally never metal detect.

Every one who drinks while driving tosses their bottles out their window so they don't get an open container. Iv seen it first hand with x co workers from construction.

A few times Iv dug a bottle by detecting the cap only to smash the bottle into more pieces with my lesche. A few times i have picked every single piece but then i realize 20 minutes later I'm still doing the same thing and then when i walk 5 feet bam another bottle.

Also items can be small and still weigh a lot I think I dug a cast iron pipe up that would fit in your hand but still weighs like 10 pounds. If You found like 5-6 of them would you take them?

I would for the scrap metal but I would come back for it or stop detecting. Not carry them while detecting.

Not to mention the time I was being nice by picking up glass i cut myself. My fault of course but almost came close to needing some stitches. Not to mention I'm not up to date with my shots I'm at a high risk in this hobby I can't be man handling all the rusty metal unless i want to die younger.
 
I keep a shopping bag on me all the time when I am detecting. I fill it up and throw it in the back of the truck and get another bag. When I get home it goes into the trash. Price I have to pay to metal detect. It is similar to how I was raised, I hold doors for other people...I say "Yes sir/maam, No sir/maam" to everyone. It is all about respect. The people that dont respect the land enough to pick up their trash are usually the ones to yell at the top of their lungs when signs get put up disallowing metal detecting...and they wonder why.
 
Anything metal, can have value, if you have a place to store and save it. It really makes good sense to remove the unwanted items, since you will like be back at a later time, seems pointless to keep dealing with the same trash, and the new contribution since. It really does boost your reputation, and the rest of the hobby. Nobody wants the stuff, and few people are picking it up. We have enough troubles with laws and permissions, this can only help now, and down the road.

I'd suggest a clear bag, or open bucket, while detecting in public areas, so the casual observer would see and remember the positive difference we make, for the price of what few coins we might find (no need to show off the good stuff...). Pick up everything, to add volume, and inflate the positive, and maybe when a novice does some dirty digging, the holes might be a little better tolerated, until corrected. We really need to keep the focus on the better parts of the hobby, since we aren't always the most welcome sight.

Fortunately, I live in a small town, and easily recognized, from 20 years of dog walking, twice a day. My last dog was very large, and mostly walked off the leash, an unusual sight. Still kind of new to detecting, but most have been friendly about it, but you can tell that some are politely telling you to search elsewhere.

But yeah, a bag of trash goes a long way to mitigate any bad feelings.
 
When I'm at the beach I usualy deposit it in the closest trash can, when my pouch begins to get to its limit of bottle caps, foil and pull tabs.

At the park I usually hold on to everything until I'm done detecting and then toss it in a garbage bag in my truck.
 
needler420 said:
Using a whole car is a bad example. You admitted to leaving trash and I'm sure it wasn't the size of a car. Id bet it didn't even weight 50 pounds you just left it because you didn't want to take responsibility. I can't see many finding a whole car. And if its just a bumper that only weighs a little its just a awkward item to carry.
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Okay, this is the second time now that you have either deliberately ignored my point or failed to grasp it. I will try one MORE time to explain it to you.

You're right, if I exposed part of a buried bumper, I would simply fill in my plug and leave it be. I'm not going to dig a several foot wide hole in my local park. MD'ing would be banned by the end of the week, it would make an unsightly mess, and would be a potential trip hazard. Anything with significant surface area that would mess up the turf if removed stays in the ground without express permission from the landowner - that's the responsible, respectful, and common sense decision. Yes, if I uncovered part of an entire musket in a manicured lawn, I would ask the owner if I had permission to dig it out. It's common sense - don't mess up what belongs to you (ie the park or private residence).

But wait, am I honestly being lectured about "responsibility" from one who ADMITS to littering while metal detecting? Just because so many people are calling you out for your littering doesn't mean you should get all defensive - just stop littering. It gives the rest of us a bad name.

Brittany-Guy said:
I recall a forum member saying he threw his trash into a bucket to sort later. When going through his 'trash' he found something that wasn't trash after all.
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I dug a piece of misc brass that I couldn't ID, and assumed it to be junk. I brought it home and it went into one of my junk bins. Then I saw one posted to this forum, ID'ed as a civil war era epaulet. Went out to my junk bin, found it, and now it's in a display on my mantle piece.

DirtAngler said:
Metal detecting has a code of ethics. If you can't follow it you are in the wrong hobby.
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And, imho, on the wrong forum.
 
gtoast99 said:
Okay, this is the second time now that you have either deliberately ignored my point or failed to grasp it. I will try one MORE time to explain it to you.

You're right, if I exposed part of a buried bumper, I would simply fill in my plug and leave it be. I'm not going to dig a several foot wide hole in my local park. MD'ing would be banned by the end of the week, it would make an unsightly mess, and would be a potential trip hazard. Anything with significant surface area that would mess up the turf if removed stays in the ground without express permission from the landowner - that's the responsible, respectful, and common sense decision. Yes, if I uncovered part of an entire musket in a manicured lawn, I would ask the owner if I had permission to dig it out. It's common sense - don't mess up what belongs to you (ie the park or private residence).

But wait, am I honestly being lectured about "responsibility" from one who ADMITS to littering while metal detecting? Just because so many people are calling you out for your littering doesn't mean you should get all defensive - just stop littering. It gives the rest of us a bad name.



I dug a piece of misc brass that I couldn't ID, and assumed it to be junk. I brought it home and it went into one of my junk bins. Then I saw one posted to this forum, ID'ed as a civil war era epaulet. Went out to my junk bin, found it, and now it's in a display on my mantle piece.



And, imho, on the wrong forum.
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How are you littering by digging it up? You're not putting the item there you're removing the dirt off the item. If it was littering then I'm sure by now out of the dozens of cops seeing me would have ticketed me.

Ethics and law are two different things bud. Littering is a actual criminal offense punishable by a fine. Every one in my community sees me stacking my finds in a pile. So in till its a law and not ethics i don't have to remove it. Ill even ask the police tomorrow if I'm littering by digging it up and i bet they will say that i don't have to take it and can't be fined for it. The original person putting it there is littering. You got ethics and law mixed up. If they say bringing the item to the surface is not littering then i will never pick a piece of trash up i dig again in spite of you. If they say I can get a littering ticket for it then you win and i will remove every piece i dig up. I will find out the actual law on this situation tomorrow.

Again ethics =morals not law. I don't have the best morals already so if its not law you're giving me a lot of reasons to not care about ethics. Specially by telling me I'm littering.

You should have said something like its the right thing to do as having good morals. Because If i found out that what I'm doing is not littering then every one in FL can blame you when i don't pick up another piece of dug trash because you said i littered. If they say I'm littering by doing that then you win fair and square and ill remove everything i dig up.

So if you wanna name call and call me the bad man 2 can play that.
 
I'm just glad Needler is in Florida and I'm up in Minnesota. I may be new to the hobby, but I get the reasoning behind the ethics of not leaving garbage sitting beside a plug I dug. It's been mentioned many times in this thread but I'll say it again. It's all about common sense and respect.

Take the trash you dig up with you. It's really that simple.
 
needler420 said:
How are you littering by digging it up? You're not putting the item there you're removing the dirt off the item. If it was littering then I'm sure by now out of the dozens of cops seeing me would have ticketed me.

Ethics and law are two different things bud. Littering is a actual criminal offense punishable by a fine. Every one in my community sees me stacking my finds in a pile. So in till its a law and not ethics i don't have to remove it.
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So you're saying it's unethical, but you do it anyways? I'm confused.

But in any case, your actions actually are considered littering which is illegal in the state of Florida according to 403.413 the Florida Litter Law

(4) DUMPING LITTER PROHIBITED.--Unless otherwise authorized by law or permit, it is unlawful for any person to dump litter in any manner or amount: (a) In or on any public highway ... or any other public lands, except in containers or areas lawfully provided therefor. ... (b) In or on any freshwater lake ... (c) In or on any private property, unless prior consent of the owner has been given and unless such litter will not cause a public nuisance or be in violation of any other state or local law, rule, or regulation."
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So by taking all your trash finds out of the hole and tossing them down again (or stacking them up somewhere and leaving them) you are in fact violating the Florida litter law, a noncriminal infraction punishable by a fine of $50 (or a misdemeanor if you drop more than 15lbs).

But more importantly than all that, it makes our parks look bad, it makes our hobby look bad, and it makes you look bad. It's not that hard - just pick up your trash. The world will be a better place for it.
 
Geardaddy said:
I'm just glad Needler is in Florida and I'm up in Minnesota. I may be new to the hobby, but I get the reasoning behind the ethics of not leaving garbage sitting beside a plug I dug. It's been mentioned many times in this thread but I'll say it again. It's all about common sense and respect.

Take the trash you dig up with you. It's really that simple.
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yeah, but what if you're a long ways from your car (or wherever) and don't have the hands.

I'll pack out what I can, but if I'm not done hunting and don't have the space, back it goes.
 
gtoast99 said:
So you're saying it's unethical, but you do it anyways? I'm confused.

But in any case, your actions actually are considered littering which is illegal in the state of Florida according to 403.413 the Florida Litter Law



So by taking all your trash finds out of the hole and tossing them down again (or stacking them up somewhere and leaving them) you are in fact violating the Florida litter law, a noncriminal infraction punishable by a fine of $50 (or a misdemeanor if you drop more than 15lbs).

But more importantly than all that, it makes our parks look bad, it makes our hobby look bad, and it makes you look bad. It's not that hard - just pick up your trash. The world will be a better place for it.
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Read it DUMPING. That would mean you have to put the item there. Its already there all you're doing is taking dirt off of it. Like i said Ill ask the sheriff tomorrow if i can get littering for digging it up and leaving it there.

If they say i can't i will never pick a piece up again for you calling me a litter bug. If they say I can get a ticket you win and ill pick all my digs up.

Though if i move it to another spot i can see that being littering. If that's the case I will leave it right in my plug every time and not even take it out. As said I'm going to the local sheriff tomorrow at the library near the park where me and my partner are going anyway. Ill know the answer tomorrow and update everyone. I'm not taking you're word. I'm going to take the person who writes the littering tickets word.
 
Xaquin said:
yeah, but what if you're a long ways from your car (or wherever) and don't have the hands.

I'll pack out what I can, but if I'm not done hunting and don't have the space, back it goes.
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I can think of several options.

1) Make several trips to your vehicle
2) Bring a larger trash receptacle
3) Stop digging larger targets when your pouch is getting full
4) Stop metal detecting.

All of these are infinitely better than just tossing it there, and I'm sure there are plenty of other suggestions that would also fix the problem.
 
needler420 said:
Read it DUMPING. That would mean you have to put the item there. Its already there all you're doing is taking dirt off of it. Like i said Ill ask the sheriff tomorrow if i can get littering for digging it up and leaving it there.
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Here ya go -

(2) DEFINITIONS.-- ... (g) "Dump" means to dump, throw, discard, place, deposit, or dispose of.
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Also, just because you can do something, doesn't make it right. Again, it's not that hard. Just throw away your trash before you ruin this hobby for the rest of us. G'night, all.
 
gtoast99 said:
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exactly so that means if i dig a can and its already in the hole then that eliminates all the above as you just took the dirt off the top.

Removing the dirt of the top of a can wouldn't be littering as its already there the original person would have littered. All I'm doing is removing the dirt that covered it from erosion.
Not dump, throw, discard, place, deposit, or dispose of. In fact if i don't take it out of the hole it means i never even touched the item how can you do any of the above if you don't touch the item ever?
Its physically impossible to do any of these dump, throw, discard, place, deposit, or dispose if you never touched the metallic item.
Like i said I'm asking the sheriff tomorrow not taking you're word for it. I already said you might be right and if so ill remove everything i dig. If you're wrong everyone in FL who MDs can now blame you for when i don't pick up my dug trash out of ethics.
 
gtoast99 said:
I can think of several options.

1) Make several trips to your vehicle
If I have a half hour (which is what I usually have), I'm not spending 20 minutes of it walking
2) Bring a larger trash receptacle
not a bad idea. need to make it feasable though. Between the MD, the 2 litres I have and the shovel, hand space is limited
3) Stop digging larger targets when your pouch is getting full
My MD doesn't really clue me in on size. I can sort of guess, but it's spotty at best
4) Stop metal detecting.
nah hehe

All of these are infinitely better than just tossing it there, and I'm sure there are plenty of other suggestions that would also fix the problem.
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granted, I could probably do better, but as is, I usually pack out 90% of the trash I dig up. Which is still 90% cleaner than it would be without me.
 
I leave all my trash by my unfilled dug holes. That way, the grounds keeper will hit the large pot hole with the mower and shred the metal item into a million pieces all over! :roll:

Personally it irks the crap out of me when I see someone elses trash by an old hole. I pick it up and haul it off, as I do with all my finds.

Is it my responsibility to take my dug trash? ABSOLUTELY! Like it or not, its all detectorists responsibility to leave the place nicer than we found it.
Remember, the joy of hunting parks and private property is a Privilege NOT a right.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound preachy.

Just some points to ponder.

G2M
 
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