The FBI Files: Dents Run Civil War Gold

[lumbercamp]

Where ever this Lake View Motel is, couldn't someone go there and ask the owner if the FBI actually did kick every one out and take over the motel.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Where ever this Lake View Motel is, couldn't someone go there and ask the owner if the FBI actually did kick every one out and take over the motel.

Here's a few options of what could happen, if this ^ ^ could/would come to fruition:

1) Since the motel owner doesn't owe any inquirer answers (to odd-ball questions), he would just ignore your inquiry.

2) If he studies his past-tense occupancy records, he might say : "No, that's not true"

But if either (1) or (2) were the result, then you know what that means don't you ? It merely means that :

3) The FBI was careful to cover their tracks and coerce the Motel owner into silence, or denial. Pretty crafty of the FBI, eh ?

However, if the motel owner DID give the answer of "yes" , then does that mean "fabulous treasure" ? No. It's merely the result of FK/Dennis &- gang of spending 13 yrs. pounding on govt. & media doors screaming "treasure". And if that meant having to board a dozen (or 15 or 18 or whatever) persons, FINE ! It still doesn't necessarily equate to "fabulous treasure".

In the same way that if I tell my local LEO's that I know where missing murder victim bodies are buried in the desert near me, I can eventually get them to come dig, send resources, etc.... Did it necessarily mean there must be bodies there ? Of course not.

 

[Pete e]

In the same way that if I tell my local LEO's that I know where missing murder victim bodies are buried in the desert near me, I can eventually get them to come dig, send resources, etc.... Did it necessarily mean there must be bodies there ? Of course not.

Coz you were *much* too clever for that!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Coz you were *much* too clever for that!

Correct. Because when you think of it : Even Go-deep and myself and others here are simply *shills* . Sent to dissuade you from knowing the nefarious theft that the FBI orchestrated. Yup, you got me: I'm just a shill. My cover is blown. How did you ever guess ?

 

[GoDeep]

Even Go-deep and myself and others here are simply *shills* .

Yep, over on the other forum he said i must be a planted FBI agent there to spin the FBI's side of the story. Evidently, he didn't look at my sign up date on the Forum, i had been a member of the forum a full 2 years before he even contacted the FBI and dug at Dents Run! But that's par for the course with Plaintiff, he never follows the evidence, he just believes whatever fits his narrative!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... he said i must be a planted FBI agent there to spin the FBI's side of the story. Evidently, he didn't look at my sign up date on the Forum, i had been a member of the forum a full 2 years before he even contacted the FBI and dug at Dents Run! ....

But go-Deep, we all know that the FBI is SO darned wise, that they had the foresight to plant you in 2 yrs. before the actual need arose. That was pretty crafty and wise of the FBI to plan that far ahead, eh ? Just to make it LOOK like you were nothing more than an innocuous md'r.

Either that, or they manipulated the join-date after the fact . And put a bunch of ruse posts up to make it *appear* that you had past-tense activity.

For example : My join date on this FMDF forum shows "2013". But that (and the 18,000 posts) are all inserted later. So that it only *appears* that I'm not a part of the FBI. After all, they can manipulate forum data and spec's and personal profiles, to create individuals that look "innocent enough". Yet .... we're both really FBI plants. That only joined an MD'ing forum recently.

'Fess up !!

 

[GoDeep]

But go-Deep, we all know that the FBI is SO darned wise, that they had the foresight to plant you in 2 yrs. before the actual need arose. That was pretty crafty and wise of the FBI to plan that far ahead, eh ? Just to make it LOOK like you were nothing more than an innocuous md'r.

Either that, or they manipulated the join-date after the fact . And put a bunch of ruse posts up to make it *appear* that you had past-tense activity.

For example : My join date on this FMDF forum shows "2013". But that (and the 18,000 posts) are all inserted later. So that it only *appears* that I'm not a part of the FBI. After all, they can manipulate forum data and spec's and personal profiles, to create individuals that look "innocent enough". Yet .... we're both really FBI plants. That only joined an MD'ing forum recently.

'Fess up !!

Thats the same line of thought Plaintiff used to (falsely) and without evidence, accuse the Excavator Operator of: That he was some sort of paid stooge/actor to make the dig look legitimate and keep quiet about the gold they "found". Never mind they had no legitimate evidence, only that
the excavator operator allegedly (can't trust anything Plaintiff claims) wouldn't speak to Plaintiff after the dig.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.....
the excavator operator allegedly (can't trust anything Plaintiff claims) wouldn't speak to Plaintiff after the dig.

What do you mean that that's not "evidence" of stolen gold ?? The mere fact that an excavator operator wouldn't talk to plaintiff must mean: "Fabulous Treasure " !

Other sure-fire iron-clad evidence is : 1) Squinty eyes, 2) strange lights seen in the distance, and 3) a scratch on your front bumper, etc..... All of this is rock solid evidence of : Fabulous treasure.

Git with the show go-Deep

 

[GoDeep]

Not only is the case not "on hold" as Plaintiff falsely claims over on his facebook group, but the DOJ's Summary Judgement Motion is due this coming Wednesday 12/21 and i'll post it up when it comes in!

I assume they'll argue they've fulfilled their obligation and ask the judge to close the case without need for a trial. Plaintiffs' response is due by the 11th of January and i'll post that up too in it's entirety
(something Plaintiff oddly never does despite it being his own case) when it comes in.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... i'll post it up when it comes in!....

thanx Go-deep. But even if he runs out of legal hoops angle for, it will never be over for his media publicity efforts. The failure-to-succeed in the legal system will merely mean that : The entire government (every single LEO agency and the entire judicial system) is "in on the conspiracy".

It's as I say : The "lack of evidence" simply means : ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE. Crazy

And not just "lack of evidence", but also as you have so carefully shown : CONTROVERTING evidence. That *too* is merely part of the coverup. Since that's carefully planned govt. efforts to "throw people off the trail". Crazy.

 

[GoDeep]

thanx Go-deep. But even if he runs out of legal hoops angle for, it will never be over for his media publicity efforts. The failure-to-succeed in the legal system will merely mean that : The entire government (every single LEO agency and the entire judicial system) is "in on the conspiracy".

It's as I say : The "lack of evidence" simply means : ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE. Crazy

And not just "lack of evidence", but also as you have so carefully shown : CONTROVERTING evidence. That *too* is merely part of the coverup. Since that's carefully planned govt. efforts to "throw people off the trail". Crazy.

Reaching Dennis has never been my goal and at this point, i don't care what he does or doesn't believe or do, as he has no interest in seeking out the truth. My concern and main goal is reaching open-minded people who view facts objectively.

Edit: In fact, it's what brought me to this forum. Another forum didn't want the facts to be freely discussed and over here, it's known that free speech (as long as it isn't hate speech) is not only welcome, but encouraged!

 

[SeabeeRon]

Not only is the case not "on hold" as Plaintiff falsely claims over on his facebook group, but the DOJ's Summary Judgement Motion is due this coming Wednesday 12/21 and i'll post it up when it comes in!

I assume they'll argue they've fulfilled their obligation and ask the judge to close the case without need for a trial. Plaintiffs' response is due by the 11th of January and i'll post that up too in it's entirety
(something Plaintiff oddly never does despite it being his own case) when it comes in.

Thanks for staying on top of this!

thanx Go-deep. But even if he runs out of legal hoops angle for, it will never be over for his media publicity efforts. The failure-to-succeed in the legal system will merely mean that : The entire government (every single LEO agency and the entire judicial system) is "in on the conspiracy".

It's as I say : The "lack of evidence" simply means : ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE. Crazy

And not just "lack of evidence", but also as you have so carefully shown : CONTROVERTING evidence. That *too* is merely part of the coverup. Since that's carefully planned govt. efforts to "throw people off the trail". Crazy.

So true!!

Reaching Dennis has never been my goal and at this point, i don't care what he does or doesn't believe or do, as he has no interest in seeking out the truth. My concern and main goal is reaching open-minded people who view facts objectively.

Edit: In fact, it's what brought me to this forum. Another forum didn't want the facts to be freely discussed and over here, it's known that free speech (as long as it isn't hate speech) is not only welcome, but encouraged!

Happy you joined over here.

 

[GoDeep]

This post is mostly speculative, but is backed by some circumstantial evidence:

Consider this, at 1hr:01minutes of Plaintiffs Youtube Video Press Conference (link below), Kem states that at the end of the dig Agent Archer instructs them to be quiet about the dig and specifically states to Kem quote "and you have your Law Enforcement Career to worry about".

Now, we know Plaintiff always interprets things in some sort of nefarious way that advances his narrative of, as Tom so often likes to say, "Fabulous Treasure", but what if it went right over Plaintiff's heads that Agent Archer was actually trying to "help/warn" them?

Consider this, as we discussed in post #469, it appears that Kem Parada, a purported Police Officer, had previously willingly and knowingly violated a lawful cease and desist order. Lead FBI agent Archer also had to know this and likely also knew that Plaintiffs played loose and fast with the truth.

What if what they took as a threat, was actually a warning for their own good? Agent Archer knew, given their history, and their undying belief there was gold there, that they may end up doing something to harm their own good (as they had already done in the past) and was warning them to "shut up"? And look at what happened in the intervening years since that warning, Plaintiffs went out and did exactly what Archer thought they'd do: Make multiple false statements.

Something to ponder at any rate....

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... Kem states that at the end of the dig Agent Archer instructs them to be quiet about the dig and specifically states to Kem quote "and you have your Law Enforcement Career to worry about".
...

Which can only mean one thing. Drumroll : "... Fabulous Treasure" !

Right ?

What's there to doubt ?

 

[ucnegold?]

but what if it went right over Plaintiff's heads that Agent Archer was actually trying to "help/warn" them?

GoDeep is making a very interesting point here. If one listens closely to the information being divulged in this Press Conference video, there is a lot to unpack.

Was the FBI deluded by the Plaintiff’s research, and “clunky” system of metal detection? What about the Plaintiff’s associates KGC lore and key role in setting up the geophysical survey?

Is this whole debacle not really the just reward for FK and their associate’s efforts to undermine the PA DCNR and attempt to convince investigators to dig for their own greed and financial gain (finder’s fee and publicity) at the expense of a taxpayer funded investigation.

Fast forward to the 31:37 in that Press Conference and begin to listen very closely at the admissions of the Plaintiff’s associate who under his own volition, would recommend three geophysical firms to the FBI for surveying the site and even recommended the technology used for scanning the site.

Here he is speaking of his recommended geophysical firms. Quote…“they all were pitching, coming back to me with information, such that they (the FBI) would have evidence, that it’s there”.

Bare in mind, these discussions are taking place prior to the investigators hiring the firm that would eventually perform the survey. The FBI relied upon and trusted Plaintiff’s associate (because of his background in geophysics) to reach out to and recommend these companies who possessed the systems to survey the site. This indicates to me that the investigators did not feel qualified to do such work or interpret such results. They are relying upon the associate to convey what is needed.

Why would these firms be pitching or discussing any information such that they would have evidence? Were these pre-survey discussions leading?

Evidence of what? Were the firms told to find evidence of something? What else was divulged in these pre-survey talks? Were the firms told they were needed to specify evidence in a specific range? Such as density in a range from 17- 19.3 g/cm3? Mass in a range of 7-9 tons? Evidence of gold? Why was evidence discussed at all?

Plaintiff’s associate claims at 12:25 in the Press Conference video, he predicted long before the gravimeter survey that if this (supposed treasure) was gold it was going to be around 7 tons (based on FK’s resistivity readings, which he himself described as “clunky” and warned the investigators not to rely upon).

This is a very telling statement: “such that they would have evidence”. This all but implies that the preamble and discussion amongst these parties was steered by someone who wanted evidence and perhaps the discussions were even leaning towards a clever extrapolation of field data that when further manipulated with sophisticated algorithms would yield evidence fitting the narrative. Eureka! A density of 19.3 g/cm3 at an estimated mass of 7.5 – 9 Tons. Perfect fit! I mean how many people have the qualifications and experience to question the results?

How could the investigators choose not to dig. Afterall, the "evidence" in the survey report was a density consistent with that of gold, a mass of 7-9 tons and located only 6.5” – 5.5’ feet deep, this was too easy not to pursue.

But as we now know from the FOIA information released, the scheme back-fired on FK and his associate and for the most part, this investigation was all but over by mid-day, the first day of the excavation when the target anomalies had been dug and nothing was found.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... this investigation was all but over by mid-day, the first day of the excavation when the target anomalies had been dug and nothing was found.

Great write-up ucnegold !

But you're forgetting one thing, in this quote of yours here ^ ^ : You say they dug where the target anomalies were, and "nothing was found". Instead, you need to alter that to : "... target anomalies had been dug and treasure was stolen"

Get with the show !

 

[ucnegold?]

Ahh, but that is the beauty of it all.

Since FK admits he had several working trail cameras on location and we now know from his own posted images (from his trail cams) that these cameras were indeed operating in that 1st day of excavation, he cannot refute the evidence of these images, the FBI released images or even his own testimony that nothing was found in the holes dug where those target anomalies were indicated in the survey. Any argument is over at that point.

I don't believe FK himself ever thought the general public would be privy to the gravimeter survey results. When the FOIA case files were released and the scan was available for all to see, it became obvious that nothing was found in Day1 because FK himself, in the years and months leading up to the FOIA release, provided all the images to confirm this. FK didn't even understand how to interpret the survey, GoDeep had to explain it to him over there. But credit to FK for winning release of the files!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... these cameras were indeed operating in that 1st day of excavation, he cannot refute the evidence of these images, ....

Aaahhh, but here's where you'd be wrong. I will never admit to doing this *myself*, but .... I know some ... uh .... "unscrupulous" persons who ... uh ... have been known to remove SIM cards from trail cameras. Then they can insert the card into their own device & "scrub the card" (delete all data). Then : Reinsert back into the camera. Presto: Problem solved.

Others simply remove the card and take it with them . But the FBI is smarter than that. Because a MISSING card would indeed have been a smoking gun. So instead, any 12 yr. old today knows how to insert a SIM card in another device, and merely wipe it clean. Then you do your deed. Then you re-insert the card back into the trail camera when you're done. Just make sure you're re-inserting the card into the camera from BEHIND where the camera is mounting (reaching in from behind, over the top). So that it doesn't take a "parting picture of you"

Not that I would ever have first hand knowledge of this practice, mind you.


You gotta hand it to those FBI guys ! They're pretty sneaky !

 

[ucnegold?]

Well, with that line of thought, what was I thinking? I suspect it won't take long before that nonsense is repeated in a certain FB discussion. It commingles well with the use of camera jammers and osprey aircraft.

 

[GoDeep]

So you believe the self-described "investigative journalist" was in cahoots with the scan company? Not impossible at all...good research!