The FBI Files: Dents Run Civil War Gold

[Tpmetal]

FK just posted on his FB page that the History Channel series The Unexplained is going to do his Dents Run BS!

Been saying this is his goal for years now.

 

[GoDeep]

Remember post 312 where I brought up that he may be misleading us into believing he was doing an actual episode of "60 Minutes"? https://metaldetectingforum.com/showpost.php?p=3426686&postcount=312

Is this show (The UnExplained) the actual "60 Min TV Show" he was referencing below? If so, it shows he was indeed misleading us.

 

[SS_Wonder]

For what its worth, I used the History Channel's Contact section and recommended that they review this thread before airing the show.

Who knows? Maybe Shatner will ask FK about the evidence shown here?

 

[GoDeep]

Further documented incidents of possible false statements by Plaintiff:

Now that we know the "Lost Gold Ingot Story" didn't come from the Harrisburg Military Archives, but rather it originated from a book of short stories from the 1960's photocopied from the book and sent to the archives in 1984, let's examine Petitioners Statement on his Facebook group several weeks ago and an almost indentical post he made back in 2018:

Plaintiffs 2022 Statement:



Plaintiffs 2018 Statement:




There are what appears to be a couple of untrue statements made by Plaintiff in his statements above:

1. "I got my info from the paperwork the 2 Pinkerton Agents that worked the case . When they died they left the paperwork with their relatives and they sent it to Harrisburg."

-This statement is completely untrue. The "paperwork" he is claiming is actually the "Lost Gold Ingot Treasure" short story. We now know that Plaintiff received a copy of it from the Harrisburg Archives and we now know that John Slonaker, Chief at the Archives, testified he received it from an outside party in 1984 and John Slonaker explicitly stated it DID NOT originate from any Military Archives. We now know it's a short story in a book from the 1960's, not an account by any alleged Pinkerton agents who's family gave it to the Archives in Harrisburg as Plaintiff claims.

2. "Ya two agents lived in the area and built a cabin in Benezette, they looked for the treasure for many years."

- This claim comes from the "Lost Gold Ingot Treasure" story itself, not from any military, court, Pinkerton or historical records. Re-read the story posted several pages earlier, you'll notice he essentially copy and pasted the story into his claims above.

- As Charles Beil, Historical Archaeologist, research reveals, there is no record of these alleged Pinkerton agents and property records don't show them owning any land where the story claims.

3. "I have all the info on Connors to, I know where he came from, lived, worked, when he joined the army , the battles he fought and his medical records. I know where the army sent him after the war and where he is buried now"

- What plaintiff has is the military record of an "Arthur Conner", not a "Conners" as is listed in the fictional short story. The name doesn't match and there is no tying the "Arthur Conner" he found to the fictional story character "Conners". See this post for a complete breakdown of this: https://metaldetectingforum.com/showpost.php?p=3426722&postcount=320

 

[FreeBirdTim]

The title of the episode is "America's Lost Treasures", so his tall tale will only be one of many tall tales they delve into for that episode.

 

[GoDeep]

The title of the episode is "America's Lost Treasures", so his tall tale will only be one of many tall tales they delve into for that episode.

Good research, i was looking for it but couldn't find it. I suspected as such given most of his posts of late are misleading and/or embellished.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

....you'll notice he essentially copy and pasted the story into his claims ...

This is just so par-for-the-course. Just so typical of these yarns. Whenever you ask for "proof of the legend", guess what they do ? They point to : The legend itself. As ......... proof of the legend itself.

Can you spell: "Circular reasoning" ?

 

[GoDeep]

This didn't age well for Plaintiff...

 

[rogueaviation]

It looks like the real "Treasure Of Dent's Run" is going to be the same as the "Treasure of Oak Island". The media, social media, television, and associated rights and merchandise could build a nice nest egg.

I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like there's not going to be any evidence of gold. I think we all want to believe, initially. Who doesn't like a good treasure story, after all?

 

[SeabeeRon]

It looks like the real "Treasure Of Dent's Run" is going to be the same as the "Treasure of Oak Island". The media, social media, television, and associated rights and merchandise could build a nice nest egg.

I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like there's not going to be any evidence of gold. I think we all want to believe, initially. Who doesn't like a good treasure story, after all?

A "good" treasure story can be fun, but I cannot put up with scam artists or grifters!

 

[rogueaviation]

I agree. Maybe the guy thinks there's treasure there and maybe he doesn't, it just seems so convoluted to be legit.

I'm reading Charles Garrett's book on caches right now, and Garrett is just so straight forward. The only thing Garret "obscures" is the starting point of a treasure map he had, and he tells the reader he obscured the details.

 

[SS_Wonder]

Ok....OK...I stole the gold at Dent's Run.

 

[GoDeep]

Latest Joint Status report is up.

In Brief:

-All of the file has been turned over to Plaintiff

-Counsel for the parties have conferred and Plaintiff anticipates challenging the adequacy of the agency's search, the adequacy of the agency’s production as to photographs, and the agency’s redaction of the authors of the Enviroscan reports.

-The DOJ anticipates filing a Summary Judgement motion by January 31st, 2023, with Plaintiffs responsive motion due by February 28th, 2023 and the DOJ's reply by March 17th, 2023.

-Plaintiff wants a faster schedule and for briefing to be completed within 60 days.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

....

-Counsel for the parties have conferred and Plaintiff anticipates challenging the adequacy of the agency's search, the adequacy of the agency’s production as to photographs, and the agency’s redaction of the authors of the Enviroscan reports.....

Yup. No matter what they give to his incessant demands, it won't matter WHAT THEY SHOW ! He will just challenge & claim that they're redacted, whitewashed, and corrupted.

So as you can see: The lack-of-evidence is simply .... ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE (of supposed "stolen" treasure).

This is like trying to put area 51 Roswell rumors to rest. Or JFK assassination conspiracy theories to rest. YOU CAN NEVER DO IT ! The lack of evidence becomes ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE !

One big difference between the harmlessness of Oak Island (although I think that one is silly nonsense too) and Dents Run is that : With O.I., it's too many centuries removed to settle anyone's silly claims. But in the case of D.R.: It is recent enough and fresh enough that it CAN be dis-proven. So it's not merely a case of "whatever floats your boat " (as with O.I.). In the case of D.R., it's actual here and now claims that CAN be sorted out. It is not subjective relative preference, as with the case of other silly ghost-stories. It's Objective current claims that can be measured.

 

[GoDeep]

My personal opinions on the deal (and take them with a grain of salt as I am Law School Dropout, literally. Though to toot my own horn a bit, I've been right every step of the way).

-Summary judgement is where the judge will decide any outstanding issues without the need for trial. Once he makes his decision on any outstanding issues, the case is closed.

-As I predicted, Plaintiff has a laundry list of complaints he'll file in his counter motion in the summary judgement phase.

-Plaintiff will lose most all, if not all, of his laundry list of complaints as he has no tangible evidence, just accusations. If he had proof, he would have already filed it during the most important part of the case, when he motioned the court to put lead FBI agent in charge, Jake Archer, under oath and question him, which he lost due to lack of evidence.

In a moment of truth though, Plaintiff got one thing right, he posted about 10 days ago that he was going to make world news on the case this week and in a sense he did: All of the file has now been turned over and the case is all but OVER!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

And this demand by Dennis boils my blood :

"...There is simply no good reason why Plaintiff's case should be placed on hold for months because of the demands of other cases ...."

Did you understand that ^ ^ ? Dennis is basically saying for govt. to put everything else on-hold. His matter is more important than anything and everybody else. W.T.F. ??

This may come as a shock to Dennis, but the govt. is staffed with normal people that have lives-to-live, just like anyone else. Who in the h*ll gave him the right to come barging in to govt. offices telling everything to drop what they're doing, and cater to his every demand ?

He's just going to have to navigate the system just like anyone else in the real world. I mean, if I went into our local govt. offices (DMV, police, city hall, school offices, etc....) and started serving desk people with demands, telling them that "My matter is more important than everything else you intend to do this month". Kiss your personal 5pm clockout time goodbye. Kiss your intention to have the weekend off goodbye. Drop everything and cater to my demands.

What do you think the local G-people would tell you or I if we walked in with that attitude ? They'd tell us to "go to h#ll". Right ? Then how does Dennis get off with such nerve ?

Me thinks he demands this, so that when he DOESN'T get it, that ..... presto ..... he can claim corruption. This is a total mis-use of tax-payer time & effort.

Anyone here on this forum who has been in a position of leadership (management/supervisory, Co. ownership, govt. job capacity, teaching, etc....) would agree that we tell this type person to "take a hike". This entitled attitude is sickening !

 

[FreeBirdTim]

I just don't understand why the judge can't throw this case out. Dennis has zero evidence of anything, yet they let him continue to drag it through the courts. Plus, his story changes like the weather. The amount of gold has changed numerous times, he's added tons of silver to the story, that silly skeleton in a cave tale and so on. Get some guts, judge, and toss this case once and for all. Geez!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

I just don't understand why the judge can't throw this case out. ....

My guess is that the answers are:

1) If some judge did that, guess what Dennis would be screaming ? He'd be screaming that : "They must be trying to hide something !! "

2) Unfortunately (or fortunately as-the-case may be), our society does indeed provide remedies for people to "have their day in court". So while that's commendable for people who seek redress for wrongs, yet the downside is : That it allows abuse of the very system.

So the government is in a "durned if you do and darned if you don't" situation.

 

[GoDeep]

I just don't understand why the judge can't throw this case out. Dennis has zero evidence of anything, yet they let him continue to drag it through the courts. !

The reason they don't throw it out is because his case was actually a case against the DOJ's records department asking the judge to compel the DOJ to turn the file over in a timely fashion. This case wasn't about the facts of the case itself (did the FBI steal gold or did the FBI dig at night or was there treasure in a cave etc) and given, after 4 years, the DOJ still hadn't produced a single document, Plaintiffs case had actual merit.

Now, Plaintiff says that once he gets the file, he's going to file another suit about the alleged "Gold" itself. That is when the judge will throw it out for lack of evidence should he bring a suit. My prediction though is he'll talk a big game about bringing another suit for years, claiming he has all this evidence "no one has ever seen" and he "can't share it now" but in time he will "reveal it all". In reality though, he'll never bring another suit as the one thing this suit did lay bare: The FBI found NO gold.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... the one thing this suit did lay bare: The FBI found NO gold.[/I][/B]

No. The FBI *CONCEALED* the fact that it found gold.

As evidence I point out the delays in turning over all Dennis' demands. What more smoking gun evidence, of hidden/stolen gold, could you ask for ? It sounds like a slam-dunk case of FBI corruption to me !!