OAK ISLAND

[SS_Wonder]

If you believe that than why spend so much time and energy coming on here and talking about it? It seems more and more common for people to all their efforts into things they don't enjoy for some reason

You're right, there is no treasure. Now you can stop coming here to complain about the show and all those involved, its getting tiresome

And yet you still come here to add, well add nothing...

Don't you have anything positive in your life to share or is it all something negative stuff about whatever others find enjoyable?

Because logical folks take enjoyment in debunking fraudulent claims.

There are other forums that tend to completely embrace fictional stories and the author's attempts to be relevant as well as their efforts to win a cable tv show or to sell books.

Perhaps those forums would fit you better? Oh wait....I see you are already posting there. Enjoy!

 

[SS_Wonder]

Here's a thought : If it were true (a big "if") that there were no treasure, then : It would be "positive" to point that out.

Let me give you an example: When my buddies and I research far away stage stop type affairs (that are going to require long-distance travel), we go into hyper-drive to kill-joy it with skepticism. Ie.: We seek out the reasons why/how it might be lame. Eg.: Lack of heavy usage, or modern junk covers the site, or probability that others have exploited it, etc....

This is because of many decades of hard-knocks-experiences of having knocked ourselves silly to research and get to a site, yet : Only to discover it was no good . And we begin to examine our original research to see how we could-have-known-better. Hence, GOING FORWARD, we apply the same scrutiny of evaluation of potential.

So you might think "That's being negative". But actually, it's being positive. Because then it allows us to focus our energy and attention and time on the spots that have the better proofs of ingredients, and that don't have "defeaters".

Well said...

 

[Tom_in_CA]

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There are other forums that tend to completely embrace fictional stories ...

Yes. Opposing views not welcome there. Echo-chamber. Bummer.

Because that's the only thing that will strengthen us all, in the end, is to know what opposing views might moderate your own. Ie.: We should ALL be seeking the most damming material against our positions. That is the way to learn, take your own pulse, seek more plausible explanations for what might *seem* to be persuasive, etc...

I certainly agree that there should be censorship and moderation if someone becomes obnoxious. Sure. But not for simple intellectual pushback.

 

[Cfmct]

Nope, you're not even close to being right because you're too lazy to watch and for some reason feel it necessary to comment.. Maybe being a troll????

Calling someone a troll for a difference of opinion is a bit harsh....

They make money on people watching the show... its like these youtube influencers its their job to string people along...

Every year its the same plot... find a little something or plant it and that is my opinion to hook those who still hope they will find something...

You enjoy it... have at it.... I am gonna sit here and watch mold grow

 

[Grizz]

I’m enjoying this. The show is fiction. It deserves to be ridiculed. Get over it.

Then start another thread based on all your ridicule

Here's a thought : If it were true (a big "if") that there were no treasure, then : It would be "positive" to point that out.

Let me give you an example: When my buddies and I research far away stage stop type affairs (that are going to require long-distance travel), we go into hyper-drive to kill-joy it with skepticism. Ie.: We seek out the reasons why/how it might be lame. Eg.: Lack of heavy usage, or modern junk covers the site, or probability that others have exploited it, etc....

This is because of many decades of hard-knocks-experiences of having knocked ourselves silly to research and get to a site, yet : Only to discover it was no good . And we begin to examine our original research to see how we could-have-known-better. Hence, GOING FORWARD, we apply the same scrutiny of evaluation of potential.

So you might think "That's being negative". But actually, it's being positive. Because then it allows us to focus our energy and attention and time on the spots that have the better proofs of ingredients, and that don't have "defeaters".

Here's a thought - Start another thread explaining all your reasoning and be happy in your own little world instead of focusing all your energy on putting down everyone who does not think the same as you

Because logical folks take enjoyment in debunking fraudulent claims.

There are other forums that tend to completely embrace fictional stories and the author's attempts to be relevant as well as their efforts to win a cable tv show or to sell books.

Perhaps those forums would fit you better? Oh wait....I see you are already posting there. Enjoy!

Then start another thread focused on debunking all the fraudulent claims, pretty simple concept and you can be in the same sandbox with everyone who thinks the same as you and you can bash every show in history for whatever reasons you choose

 

[scoundrel]

Then start another thread based on all your ridicule

I’m perfectly content right here. I told you,I’m enjoying this. Besides, in the title of the thread, the OP asked for our opinions, not compliments. I simply offered mine. You’re not Gary Drayton, are you?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... your own little world instead of focusing all your energy on putting down everyone who does not think the same as you....

Grizz, here's the irony of the above statement ^ ^ That you are doing the same thing. Ie.: This finger points both ways. Because in-as-much persons "don't think the same as you", ok, fine then : So too do you not "think the same as them".

Which is perfectly fine ! Your passion is great ! And scores of people agree with you (as evidenced by the popularity of the story over the centuries, and the current show). Ok, fine.

But just know that if it's nasty & mean to "disagree", then both sides (the believers and the skeptics alike) would therefore each be guilty of "nasty & mean". Because, shucks, they disagree with each other. I mean, if what a skeptic is doing is to be called "bashing" (for having a contrary opinion and voicing it), then SO TOO would you be "bashing" for having a contrary view from them. How does that finger not point both ways ? See ?

 

[Cfmct]

Fool's Gold: Why There's No Treasure on Oak Island, Part I.

Despite 150 years of searching, no treasure has ever been found on Nova Scotia's "Oak Island," and none ever will, despite a lot of wishful thinking.

www.seanmunger.com

 

[Grizz]

Grizz, here's the irony of the above statement ^ ^ That you are doing the same thing. Ie.: This finger points both ways. Because in-as-much persons "don't think the same as you", ok, fine then : So too do you not "think the same as them".

Which is perfectly fine ! Your passion is great ! And scores of people agree with you (as evidenced by the popularity of the story over the centuries, and the current show). Ok, fine.

But just know that if it's nasty & mean to "disagree", then both sides (the believers and the skeptics alike) would therefore each be guilty of "nasty & mean". Because, shucks, they disagree with each other. I mean, if what a skeptic is doing is to be called "bashing" (for having a contrary opinion and voicing it), then SO TOO would you be "bashing" for having a contrary view from them. How does that finger not point both ways ? See ?

Ahhh no, you're wrong again.

Having a discussion means both parties listen to the others views and talk about them. You don't listen, all you do is criticize the show and anyone who enjoys it. You offer up your beliefs as facts when they are nothing more than your opinion based on watching a few episodes a decade ago or some random thing you found on the internet. Thats fine, you're free to believe whatever you want, but forcing your beliefs on others is a communist trait.

We are not forcing our beliefs on anyone, we're just trying to talk about a show we enjoy

 

[SS_Wonder]

The thread is about oak island, not the fictional tv show.

 

[SS_Wonder]

Fool's Gold: Why There's No Treasure on Oak Island, Part I.

Despite 150 years of searching, no treasure has ever been found on Nova Scotia's "Oak Island," and none ever will, despite a lot of wishful thinking.

www.seanmunger.com

Great examples…

 

[KOB]

Imagine watching or reading any kind of show ( review , documentary , reality or not ) on social media ( forums , TV , YouTube , FB , whatever) and NOT expecting to see bad , negative comments. It's not reasonable , nor does it fall under common sense. If there was nothing wrong with it , I wouldn't have to share my opinion with total strangers I've never met.

 

[Coin-Saver]

Grizz, I don't think I have heard anyone here put you down or the people that watch it down. That would mean we would have to put ourselves down for attempting to watch it and we durn sure ain't gonna put ourselves down. We're way too high and mighty for that. (That was Sarcasm Grizz) I mean after all we don't even believe there ever was a treasure. I mean maybe but that hasn't been proven. At this point more NOTHING has been proven on that island than SOMETHING so i'm going with the odds. I knew it was B.S when they named it Oak Island when clearly the island is shaped like a baby Elephants head. Doesn't look like an OAK, or an OAK tree. I will have to do some research on Annie OAKley though. If she was involved it could definitely sway my opinion to there being a treasure. (More sarcasm Grizz)

And before you say it. 'm not unhappy. I'm not disgruntled and I have family I love that watch the show. I actually give them a lot more crap about it than I have you. I said once if you like the show then watch it. I would if I liked it and I would admit it and not care what anyone thought about it. The fact that you can't just do that says a lot about you.

I'll end this by saying that someone could start a thread about what they don't like about the show but something tells me it wouldn't be as good as here. It just sucks when everyone agrees with you all the time. That is .......Unless......Oh never mind.

 

[Jose159]

The reality television series is likely to have some amount of scripting to make it more entertaining for viewers. There are also probably dramatizations of the events, but these guys are really out there excavating and placing themselves in danger. Anything can happen when you’re undertaking such a monumental task. The stars of the show are not using props on a Hollywood stage, and they’re really on the island doing the work that they claim to do, so we’ve established that there are quite a few aspects of the show that are genuine.

Where the fabrications are likely to be​

The parts of the show that stand out as being dramatized are the side stories that emerge. Rumors about clues to the location of the treasure being found in other locations, such as an old church, seem a little far-fetched. “The Curse of Oak Island” has featured quite a few different side stories and speculations that do seem overly dramatic. Of course, this is show business, even if it is a reality television series. There have to be some fillers that keep people hooked

 

[SS_Wonder]

The lagina’s set manager’s script has them re-digging and re-discovering previous searcher’s holes and old wood in order to fill up the required time for the show each week.

They are not taking any risks as they know exactly the ground conditions (based on previous diggers). It’s all attempted reenactments of previous searcher’s efforts with fictional stories added in.

 

[Coin-Saver]

Also you have the retelling of the retelling of every retelling after each commercial. Now if retelling was proof then we'd have ourselves a show. But as we know, saying the same thing over and over doesn't constitute proof.

 

[Pete e]

Also you have the retelling of the retelling of every retelling after each commercial. Now if retelling was proof then we'd have ourselves a show. But as we know, saying the same thing over and over doesn't constitute proof.

The constant retelling and retelling is nothing more than padding to fill the alloted air time, and is super irritating to say the least.

Last series, I think it was interesting that the Show seemed to loose a lot of support from which ever local government department deals with heritage and archaeology and this was evidenced by the majority of the state archaeologists being with drawn and lots of restrictions being placed on where excavations could take place....

 

[J&Mdirtduo]

Idk I’m kinda meh on the show still watch from time to time but it did make my daughter say i wish i had a metal detector this looks fun. So i got her one. so guess thats a positive if the show gets people young and old to maybe pick up the hobby and get outside and be active.

 

[Connecticut Danny]

Yes. Opposing views not welcome there. Echo-chamber. Bummer.

Because that's the only thing that will strengthen us all, in the end, is to know what opposing views might moderate your own. Ie.: We should ALL be seeking the most damming material against our positions. That is the way to learn, take your own pulse, seek more plausible explanations for what might *seem* to be persuasive, etc...

I certainly agree that there should be censorship and moderation if someone becomes obnoxious. Sure. But not for simple intellectual pushback.

Well, Tom, I believe this story from day one about boys finding a chain hanging from a tree. I believe that pirates buried the treasures, then dug tunnels so it would be hard to dig it up. Why were pirates or anybody else would dig tunnels if no treasures?

 

[Coin-Saver]

Well Tom?