Dog the Treasure Hunter
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Here is something to try. It works for me. You will need to be open and free.
For those that can't afford a detector , but still want to search for items. Or for those who want to add another type of detector .
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Dog the Treasure Hunter
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More success with dowsing .
Not in a line on your table, I hope....
Nah, that. remote viewing and the spirit world, would probably come in the shape of a mushroom.....
I'm old, I wouldn't know, personally.
Tom_in_CA
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anecdotal stories are not proof. If these things worked , then why don't any of the proponents ever subject the devices or-their-skill to double-blind scientific studies ? Whenever they've tried, it's always failed. But .... durned those sun-spots after all, eh ? 
This is going take several large bags of popcorn
and maybe a couple of bottles
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and maybe a couple of bottles!!
stetam
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My grandfather did it often year ago, and it worked.
Steve
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I am open minded about some aspects of dowsing, but “remote viewing“, come on now!
Dog the Treasure Hunter
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I bet those guys in Vietnam that didn't step on any of those mines that dowsers found believe in it.anecdotal stories are not proof. If these things worked , then why don't any of the proponents ever subject the devices or-their-skill to double-blind scientific studies ? Whenever they've tried, it's always failed. But .... durned those sun-spots after all, eh ?
Thank goodness some of you guys weren't around during the stone age. We would still be using sticks and rocks for tools. Get out of your bubble and experiment on your own. After all your free to do so if you choose. You probably experimented with things a lot more as a kid than you do now as a adult. I'm assuming you still have all your body parts, maybe got some bump and bruises,but you learned on your own. It still doesn't hurt to think for yourself, with in reason. I bet those hostages that were rescued believe in remote viewing. If i'm ever a hostage they have my blessing to try and locate me. And if i ever find myself in a mine field i surly will take my chance with the dowser. Its great to have the choices. USA!
Tom_in_CA
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Sure. No doubt anecdotal stories abound. So too do anecdotal stories about psychic readings, miracle pills, lucky charms, etc... abound. Sure.
But when it comes to dowsing, that's all it ever amounts to is : Anecdotal stories. The moment anyone's ever tried to do scientific double blind studies, it never works out better than random eventual chance. And when you point out these failures to the proponents, the pushback is like clockwork :
1) Some outside influence (sun spots, ions in the air, magnets close by, rigged tests, etc..) flawed the test (even though they'd agreed to the parameters before the starting of the tests)
2) They grant that those tests failed, but that ... shucks, it works every other time. And they proceed to tell the stories.
As for water, that is simple : Wherever leaves fall, you WILL find water if you dig. And as for metal, if you wave it around any likely looking ruins, and pull out detector to "pinpoint" (that's the ticket), dig enough holes in likely spots, then sure : You'll eventually (gasp) find metal. Maybe even a goodie.
So if dowsing works, why doesn't it ever pass double-blind rigid protocol testing ? Why is it that all we ever hear is anecdotal testimony ?
Dog the Treasure Hunter
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I don't know. I don't have a answer. I don't even understand a lot of what you typed. Just giving some options . Sometimes i don't find anything with a metal detector, go back out to the same spot and find stuffSure. No doubt anecdotal stories abound. So too do anecdotal stories about psychic readings, miracle pills, lucky charms, etc... abound. Sure.
But when it comes to dowsing, that's all it ever amounts to is : Anecdotal stories. The moment anyone's ever tried to do scientific double blind studies, it never works out better than random eventual chance. And when you point out these failures to the proponents, the pushback is like clockwork :
1) Some outside influence (sun spots, ions in the air, magnets close by, rigged tests, etc..) flawed the test (even though they'd agreed to the parameters before the starting of the tests)
2) They grant that those tests failed, but that ... shucks, it works every other time. And they proceed to tell the stories.
As for water, that is simple : Wherever leaves fall, you WILL find water if you dig. And as for metal, if you wave it around any likely looking ruins, and pull out detector to "pinpoint" (that's the ticket), dig enough holes in likely spots, then sure : You'll eventually (gasp) find metal. Maybe even a goodie.
So if dowsing works, why doesn't it ever pass double-blind rigid protocol testing ? Why is it that all we ever hear is anecdotal testimony ?
. Couldn't walk for awhile but kept trying. Couldn't ride a bike for awhile but kept trying . These guys didn't have a whole lot of success, but kept at it.
Tom_in_CA
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What on earth is up with that link ?
Look bro, let's just cut to the chase : If you, or anyone else can use dowsing (to have better than random-eventual chance guessing) then : By all means SHOW THE WORLD ! But alas, no one shows better than using subconscious terrain clues, eventual random chance, etc...
They have been using mine/metal detectors since WW2 to locate land mines, not dowsing rods.
Dog the Treasure Hunter
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Listen up here Bro Han. You live in the USA. So you can believe what you want and express that.
Dog the Treasure Hunter
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I believe that General in the video isn't lying about what happened . Your allowed to call bull s. on his story.
FliesOnly
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I will [painfully ) ] agree with Tom on this one. Dowsing does not work. Remote viewing is nonsense. Anytime these things are put through any sort of rigorous [scientific] testing, they fail.
) ] agree with Tom on this one. Dowsing does not work. Remote viewing is nonsense. Anytime these things are put through any sort of rigorous [scientific] testing, they fail.
yooper69
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Sounds like someone better lay off the mushrooms!
