E=MC Squared (Usually)

OleSarge

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My wife and I keep the motor home stocked, fueled and ready to go camping at the least provocation. Such a occasion presented itself a couple weeks ago and we found ourselves in the beautiful Ocean City State Park near a Pacific Ocean beach. We look forward to these mini-vacations because they allow my wife the opportunity to read and watch her sitcom videos while I metal detect in the park between clam digging, fishing and beach walks. Having said this, you'll understand why I was on my knees, anxiously probing the ground in a day use picnic area near the beach trail head. Deeply engrossed in the beeps of my pin pointer and wearing my headset, it's no surprise that I failed to notice the young lady and three sprouting kids watching me as if under a spell. When I did finally notice them the young lady asked the usual question "Finding anything good"? I responded with my usual "Not much, just some pull tabs, a couple cool Hot Wheels Cars and lots of pennies". At this the younger sprout (about 3 years old) joins in and asks to "See the things".
I had lots of time so I emptied my finds pouch on a picnic table and the kids dutifully and carefully examined each piece of debris, the Hot Wheels Cars and nearly every penny.
Earlier in the park I had became involved in a conversation with some other campers and had made the statement that "Kids absolutely loved metal detectors, and were so impulsive I'd actually had them start digging my finds before I could do it". About this time these same campers came by and, while one slapped me on the back, another tossed a hand full of pennies into the grassy area of the site. The kids went wild and wanted to use my detector and pin pointer to find the pennies. Better judgment would not allow me to surrender my ATP, but I did let the kids search for, and find many of the pennies with my GPP. They were hooked and the conversation swiftly became "Where did all the pennies, Hot Wheels Cars and pull tabs come from"? Being a certified military instructor, I aptly aimed my response to the next older child (about seven years old) and began my scientific explanation of how pennies, Hot Wheels Cars and so many pull tabs ended up in the most inaccessible places;
The scientific proven formula (E=MC Squared) (which they all knew, of course) dictates that a space craft exiting the earth's gravitational pull must have a propulsion system capable of allowing it to reach escape velocity. The problem presented here is that a engine that large would require massive amounts of fuel and massive amounts of fuel are heavy. So, the larger the engine, the more fuel, the more fuel the heavier the load, the heavier the load the larger the engine....and on and on forever.
So, the Extra-Terrestrials (Aliens) (and, yes I had to explain what a "Alien" was, but the mom kicked in with her own explanation and bailed me out) collects tons of seemingly worthless things which are vey heavy and won't be missed if thousands of tons disappear over a period of time. These things are ballast for the space craft and jettisoned as it gains speed to lighten the load and allow the craft to reach escape velocity without expending valuable fuel. The Aliens have done a lot of research and the things they found that existed in millions of tons, are considered of very little value, and readily available on earth for the (unnoticed) taking was pennies, old Hot Wheels Cars and pull tabs.
So, the Aliens collected these things by the ton and cast them off as ballast as their space craft passed over places like Ocean City State Park.
The kids were entranced, and to my own amazement, the mom was buying into every fabricated word of the explanation.
This worry was compounded as a gent, heavily muscled and fully capable of sending me to meet the maker, approached and introduced himself as the husband and kids father.
Immediately the lady launched into the previous story and recounted the explanation of how pennies, cars and pull tabs ended up I areas were nobody had ever walked with perfect memory.
My jaw had already steeled itself in expectation of the burly guy's fist permanently changing it's geography....But, instead he nearly doubled over in laughter, extended his hand to me and expressed his appreciation for my teaching his kids about a very hard to comprehend scientific theory.
The mom gave me a hug...not too bad either....and the kids pocketed their pennies as if they were gold nuggets.
All in all it was a great experience and we all parted company with a new appreciation of science...and I'll bet the dad never gets another minutes rest until he buys the kids a metal detector.

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every fabricated word of the explanation.-OleSarge

But you didn't say which words were fabricated so I'm not a bit clearer on this stuff. All the alien stuff sounds believable but I'm not sure about some of the other. Glad you got the hug even if you had to BS your way into it. That part makes sense. :yes:
 
every fabricated word of the explanation.-OleSarge

But you didn't say which words were fabricated so I'm not a bit clearer on this stuff. All the alien stuff sounds believable but I'm not sure about some of the other. Glad you got the hug even if you had to BS your way into it. That part makes sense. :yes:

Thanks Kemper, still feel kind of warm and squiggly about the whole encounter.
I feel really good about having had a positive (?) influence on some potential MDers though.

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Thanks Kemper, still feel kind of warm and squiggly about the whole encounter.
I feel really good about having had a positive (?) influence on some potential MDers though.

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Yes, that's the main thing. And even if they never learn that you aren't suppose to start a sentence with "And" they will learn something else that can be just as, or more important. Good job.
 
That is certainly a different explanation of E=MC Squared than the one I learned in school. :yes:
 
E=MC^2 is an the equation associated with special relativity that give an an equivalence between mass and energy, not general relativity, which is a gravitation theory dealing with curvature of timespace, time dilation due to gravity, and gravitational lensing. A spaceship trying to escape gravity seems more of a Newtonian problem.

It is a great story however. I always wondered how such pristine looking parks get filled with pull tabs and the like. I should have suspected Aliens. I will have to contact the makers of the show "Ancient Aliens" and have them do a segment of the connection between pull tab distribution along ley lines and ancient alien astronauts.
 
E=MC^2 is an the equation associated with special relativity that give an an equivalence between mass and energy, not general relativity, which is a gravitation theory dealing with curvature of timespace, time dilation due to gravity, and gravitational lensing. A spaceship trying to escape gravity seems more of a Newtonian problem.

It is a great story however. I always wondered how such pristine looking parks get filled with pull tabs and the like. I should have suspected Aliens. I will have to contact the makers of the show "Ancient Aliens" and have them do a segment of the connection between pull tab distribution along ley lines and ancient alien astronauts.

BottleCapKing, I truly appreciate your extrapolation of my meandering explanation of a otherwise weighty problem.
The excuse for any inaccuracies in either the theory involved or the cookies they ate can be blamed on the fact I've reached a age whereby forgetfulness is not only acceptable, it's expected and appreciated.
I do have verifiable evidence that what I'm saying about the presence of alien articles in otherwise inaccessible places as being completely true.
Over the years I have found Match Box, Hot Wheels and Tootsie Toy toys under the roots of trees, in brush so thick even a rabbit would get stuck and on the side of a mountain which was so high and steep even the goats wore traction shoes and carried lunch pails.
And I do possess several of these toys, lots of zincs and loads of pull tabs to prove it.
Actually, being a successful salesman, I found that too many people refuse to believe the truth, and the only way to capture their attention is with a fictional scenario incorporating words and events they feel they should know.
Normally I prefer to stay clear of kids when I'm in a area as secluded and poorly patrolled as the lots in a State Camp Ground.
In this case I had no choice in the matter and was fortunate that a parent was readily available, and the kids were well behaved, and talking about politics or religion just didn't seem appropriate.
Hopefully the parents understood that it was not a lesson on physics or a suggestion of a alien invasion, and used the encounter to launch future discussion on similar topics.
For me it was pleasurable to spend time with kids who apparently were interested in something other than sex and drugs, and I thoroughly hope they
walked away better for the encounter themselves.
Thanks for the input....and don't take me too seriously...I don't!

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Pies R Square, Cakes R Round! ;):p:D:laughing:

Staying on topic here I think the pies use to be round and they came in a metal tin and you could reuse that. It had a common name but for the life of me I can't think of what company it was. It seems like it started with Fri..Oh well I can't remember but kids use to play with them and like Sarge said stuff like that is better than other things.:D
 
That is certainly a different explanation of E=MC Squared than the one I learned in school. :yes:

Golly Rudy, you can't actually expect me to accept fault because your school hasn't been wired into the cyber age yet.
Really, this is about metal detecting and kids...not astro-physics.
I have been confronted and asked stupid questions varying from who authorized me to use lawn equipment (thinking my metal detector was a weed eater) to describe everything I'd found in a certain area because they had lost something, but just wasn't sure when or what it was.
Exactly what level of intellect do I use to conduct a conversation on a hobby preconceived to be bland, mundane, invasive and destructive as all too often metal detecting is.
Or, do I just pull my hat down to hide my face and head for the toilet rather than chance the embarrassment of a conversation.
We live in a time where the impression is continually pounded into kids heads that everyone carrying something is out to harm them and the use of humor in face to face conversations is a dying art.
Today it is normal for a kids face to never be seen because it's hidden behind a cell phone or blocked as they do a IPad selfy for face book or Twitter.
If these three, seven and nine year old kids really want to learn about E=MC Square they will Google it and the only influence a old guy with a metal detector in a park will have on the outcome of their acquisition of knowledge is that he inspired them to start their search by making them interested in learning.
Sorry about the run on Rudy.....I'm old school and my brain hasn't been digitalized or compressed yet.

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This thread kinda reminds me of an encounter with a boy I would guess to be about 12 years old. I was searching a lot and he was walking by and said"probably not gonna find nothing" and I said "You're probably right" I later found a vintage automobile body tag.

If I would have had the tag in my possession when I met him I could have shown it to him and proved him wrong. As it was I proved both of us wrong. If everybody that didn't metal detect would have his attitude we certainly would have much less problems getting permission to search lots.

But by sharing what we know with those that are interested we can help them enjoy something we enjoy. We could tell everyone "nothing but pulltabs" but that would be no fun. :grin:
 
This thread kinda reminds me of an encounter with a boy I would guess to be about 12 years old. I was searching a lot and he was walking by and said"probably not gonna find nothing" and I said "You're probably right" I later found a vintage automobile body tag.

If I would have had the tag in my possession when I met him I could have shown it to him and proved him wrong. As it was I proved both of us wrong. If everybody that didn't metal detect would have his attitude we certainly would have much less problems getting permission to search lots.

But by sharing what we know with those that are interested we can help them enjoy something we enjoy. We could tell everyone "nothing but pulltabs" but that would be no fun. :grin:

In a much earlier thread I posted some photos of my "Talking Kit", which I have with me every time I go out metal detecting.
In it I have included my best finds such as my Walking Liberty Half Dollar, Mercury Dime, several Wheat Cents, and the fake 14K gold chain I found.
I will talk about metal detecting to anybody who will listen but they have to sort out which is searching for "stuff" and searching for "history" because I merge both topics into one conversation.
I am really a skeptic of twelve year old boys and their motives in carrying on a sustained conversation which doesn't include Justin Bieber or some other Diva.
However, any conversation I embark on with a stranger, especially when kids are present I retain complete control of the topics, and am super cautious about the words and expressions I use...or allow them to introduce into the conversation.
Kids are loads of fun when they get wired and hyped up over something like metal detecting but there is also a limit to what they should be allowed to do.
It is to be expected that a tyke is interested in using your Pin Pointer, but grabbing your metal detector or, as in one case, attempting to stomp it, is inexcusable.
The conversation I've mentioned in this thread requires very little effort to be debunked as pure prattle, contains no allusions to anything real and doesn't require much effort or intellect to withdraw quickly and without injury to no party involved.
And, everything I say is to be taken as prattle anyway since who's to believe anything said by a old guy with muddy gloves, dirty knees, in the rain, looking for pennies in a park by swinging a stick at the ground on a Sunday afternoon:lol:.

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......and to my own amazement, the mom was buying into every fabricated word of the explanation........The mom gave me a hug...not too bad either....

This doesn't surprise me even a little. Men have been telling fabrications to women since the beginning of time in order to get hugs and lots more. :laughing:
 
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