Scooterjim
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I agree, and thought I said darn near the exact same thing, but I must have been too political. I was holding back too.
Simplex+ USA Waiting Thread
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I agree, and thought I said darn near the exact same thing, but I must have been too political. I was holding back too.
You have my attention Earl... What I posted was a informational thread for members who may not want to spend as much money as the Nox is and nothing more...
This is what I said when starting my thread:
I know they are hunting in the dirt and I am not sure if it can be used at the beach but I will post this.. maybe it would be a good dry sand detector.. the price is $299
Monte
"In Memory of"
BACK TO THE INITIAL POSTED TOPIC by 'Hordfest.'
Simplex+ USA Waiting Thread.
Yes, a lot of interested Hobbyists, including yourself becoming new to the sport, as well as a good bunch of Avid Detectorists who have been at it a while and already have one very decent up-scale model or perhaps several useful tools, are all very interested in the Simplex+.
Why? Because it is a newer model entry; it is innovative and in a submersible / waterproof design; comes at a shocking low price; has a well thought-out set of adjustment features and functions.
You could randomly gather up 20 beginners to experienced detector users and have them bring all of the detectors they own and line them all up. Grab the coming Simplex+ and start eliminating all of the models those 20 people have just to compare some of the important adjustable features the "entry-level" Simplex + has to see how many detectors the owners are using that are more adjustable for a variety of hunt site conditions.
For fun, let's just presume those 20 people are going to average out owning just 2 detectors each. That would make 40 detectors in the line-up. The people would tell you that they are each satisfied with being able to find stuff with them so they must be at least a 'good' detector. Great! But, are they versatile enough to take on a wide range of ground mineral challenges?
Let's find out. ...
We know that ground mineralization can be mellow at times, but we also know that many people hunt a wide-range of challenging higher iron mineralized ground so it would be a good idea to start there and find out how many of these 40 detector models offer both Automated Ground Balance as well as Manual Ground Balance?
The Simplex+ does, so let's just move all those models aside that do not offer any GB control at all (aka preset or fixed) or are limited to not providing Automated and manual GB control.
That will trim down the number of those 40 detectors we started with and leave fewer to compare against this new $299 entry new-comer.
If you owned one or all of the models that got brushed aside, you get to sit back and watch the comparisons and discussion, but if you own one or more models still in the active group, you get to continue:
If you still own and use at least one model for comparison, then let's just look at three other adjustment functions to see how your detectors compares with what is offered by the Simplex+. Let's see .... Okay, here are three nomal or more modern detector functions to check for:
Does your detector, that is still in the running, feature these?:
• Full-Range Discrimination control to accept and/or reject low to high conductivity targets?
• Adjustable Backlighted Display for hunting at might or in low-light environments.
• Iron Audio Volume control to limit the loudness of iron range targets.
Now, if you remove all the remaining models that folks are using now and brought to the Simplex+ Party, you will have just a few remaining that offer these three features as well as the Automated and Manual GB option. Just these four adjustable features we are looking at, and we had 20 people with 40 detectors there, initially, for comparison.
If you are one of the detector operators still in the running and have a model or more that offers these Simplex+ features, then you can ask yourself things like: "I already have those features, so do I need a Simplex+?"
If you are one of the many who is now standing over on the side with your detector(s) that fall short of what Nokta / Makro is bringing to the table, then you just might want to ask other things, too, like:
"Do I need those features?"
"Do I want those adjustments?"
"I wonder what I have missed, or not done well on, due to tough ground mineral challenges without being able to control the Ground Balance?"
"If they can engineer all that into this smaller, lighter and affordable package, then I wonder what else the Simplex+ offers me that would be to my benefit? Perhaps there's more end-performance than what I would expect?"
I have all of these adjustments on several detectors I own, from the lower-cost Fisher F44 to the Makro Racer 2, Nokta FORS Relic on up to the Nokta / Makro Anfibio Multi. Those I can compare against the Simplex+. All four features I brought up are NOT found on the Nokta CoRe, Tekentics T2+. modified White's IDX Pro or XLT, or my single-tone / non-display Tesoro Bandido II µMAX or Silver Sabre µMAX, or XP ORX.
As I viewed it, from the very first mention of the proposed Simplex two years ago, this is a newer and fast-growing detector manufacturer, who has provided very well-built and well-engineered devices that have a proven in-the-field track record, so even a new and so-called "entry-level" priced model just has to be worth checking out!
Every detector I own and use has a purpose for me, they all work well for chosen applications (or they wouldn't be in my Outfit), and I have my favorites of them all, especially for get-serious Relic Hunting type challenges. But the Simplex+, much improved, feature and function wise, from the initial show-and-tell at a past Detectival, offers a lot for even a very experienced and Avid Detectorist to consider.
That's what interests me about the Simplex+, and there is no doubt this new entry model is going to be 'Just Right' for many people either getting started in this great sport or to any savvy detector operator.
I know I'm excited about it and look forward to taking a Simplex+ on a detector jaunt within the next few weeks as I have both a freshwater and saltwater excursion to put it to test, and will naturally use it for working a couple of bigger grassy parks. I can acknowledge what I see and what I know spec wise, and one I get one in-hand and put it to work, then I can pass judgment ... personal opinion ... about what the Simplex+ is and how it fits in todays market. I'm sure it will have a 'fit' in my personal detector group, and most likely join my Racer 2 and ?? as a 'Daily Traveler' on the back seat.
No time or need to argue this model with others. We should only consider what we have, what we use, what the Simplex+ is, and then argue only with ourself to see if it's something of interest to us.
Monte
Simplex+ USA Waiting Thread.
Yes, a lot of interested Hobbyists, including yourself becoming new to the sport, as well as a good bunch of Avid Detectorists who have been at it a while and already have one very decent up-scale model or perhaps several useful tools, are all very interested in the Simplex+.
Why? Because it is a newer model entry; it is innovative and in a submersible / waterproof design; comes at a shocking low price; has a well thought-out set of adjustment features and functions.
You could randomly gather up 20 beginners to experienced detector users and have them bring all of the detectors they own and line them all up. Grab the coming Simplex+ and start eliminating all of the models those 20 people have just to compare some of the important adjustable features the "entry-level" Simplex + has to see how many detectors the owners are using that are more adjustable for a variety of hunt site conditions.
For fun, let's just presume those 20 people are going to average out owning just 2 detectors each. That would make 40 detectors in the line-up. The people would tell you that they are each satisfied with being able to find stuff with them so they must be at least a 'good' detector. Great! But, are they versatile enough to take on a wide range of ground mineral challenges?
Let's find out. ...
We know that ground mineralization can be mellow at times, but we also know that many people hunt a wide-range of challenging higher iron mineralized ground so it would be a good idea to start there and find out how many of these 40 detector models offer both Automated Ground Balance as well as Manual Ground Balance?
The Simplex+ does, so let's just move all those models aside that do not offer any GB control at all (aka preset or fixed) or are limited to not providing Automated and manual GB control.
That will trim down the number of those 40 detectors we started with and leave fewer to compare against this new $299 entry new-comer.
If you owned one or all of the models that got brushed aside, you get to sit back and watch the comparisons and discussion, but if you own one or more models still in the active group, you get to continue:
If you still own and use at least one model for comparison, then let's just look at three other adjustment functions to see how your detectors compares with what is offered by the Simplex+. Let's see .... Okay, here are three nomal or more modern detector functions to check for:
Does your detector, that is still in the running, feature these?:
• Full-Range Discrimination control to accept and/or reject low to high conductivity targets?
• Adjustable Backlighted Display for hunting at might or in low-light environments.
• Iron Audio Volume control to limit the loudness of iron range targets.
Now, if you remove all the remaining models that folks are using now and brought to the Simplex+ Party, you will have just a few remaining that offer these three features as well as the Automated and Manual GB option. Just these four adjustable features we are looking at, and we had 20 people with 40 detectors there, initially, for comparison.
If you are one of the detector operators still in the running and have a model or more that offers these Simplex+ features, then you can ask yourself things like: "I already have those features, so do I need a Simplex+?"
If you are one of the many who is now standing over on the side with your detector(s) that fall short of what Nokta / Makro is bringing to the table, then you just might want to ask other things, too, like:
"Do I need those features?"
"Do I want those adjustments?"
"I wonder what I have missed, or not done well on, due to tough ground mineral challenges without being able to control the Ground Balance?"
"If they can engineer all that into this smaller, lighter and affordable package, then I wonder what else the Simplex+ offers me that would be to my benefit? Perhaps there's more end-performance than what I would expect?"
I have all of these adjustments on several detectors I own, from the lower-cost Fisher F44 to the Makro Racer 2, Nokta FORS Relic on up to the Nokta / Makro Anfibio Multi. Those I can compare against the Simplex+. All four features I brought up are NOT found on the Nokta CoRe, Tekentics T2+. modified White's IDX Pro or XLT, or my single-tone / non-display Tesoro Bandido II µMAX or Silver Sabre µMAX, or XP ORX.
As I viewed it, from the very first mention of the proposed Simplex two years ago, this is a newer and fast-growing detector manufacturer, who has provided very well-built and well-engineered devices that have a proven in-the-field track record, so even a new and so-called "entry-level" priced model just has to be worth checking out!
Every detector I own and use has a purpose for me, they all work well for chosen applications (or they wouldn't be in my Outfit), and I have my favorites of them all, especially for get-serious Relic Hunting type challenges. But the Simplex+, much improved, feature and function wise, from the initial show-and-tell at a past Detectival, offers a lot for even a very experienced and Avid Detectorist to consider.
That's what interests me about the Simplex+, and there is no doubt this new entry model is going to be 'Just Right' for many people either getting started in this great sport or to any savvy detector operator.
I know I'm excited about it and look forward to taking a Simplex+ on a detector jaunt within the next few weeks as I have both a freshwater and saltwater excursion to put it to test, and will naturally use it for working a couple of bigger grassy parks. I can acknowledge what I see and what I know spec wise, and one I get one in-hand and put it to work, then I can pass judgment ... personal opinion ... about what the Simplex+ is and how it fits in todays market. I'm sure it will have a 'fit' in my personal detector group, and most likely join my Racer 2 and ?? as a 'Daily Traveler' on the back seat.
No time or need to argue this model with others. We should only consider what we have, what we use, what the Simplex+ is, and then argue only with ourself to see if it's something of interest to us.
Monte
dixiedigger57
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confidence in Monte for a "Fair Test"
I have confidence in Monte, although we have never met anywhere but the forums. he has taught me a lot on line. Monte has worked for some companies and knows the ins and outs of business, and he has used many detectors and brands, and continues to do so. he is not a cheerleader for one brand specifically and i have seen him point out things on all brands. he uses one for what it can do, and for specific purposes. It was his articles that got me thinking, why own a bunch of basically the same? maybe one a little "better' than the other build wise price wise etc... but basically the same hunting wise? get a variety if needed. the key ..needed. .
i cannot afford a herd of units. i have an analog all manual favorite that has produced, an updated of my original Eldorado in the Umax version. thats for reduced weight, non ID relic hunting.
My heavier MXT is being replaced by My AT PRO. the MXT is a fine unit, just going lighter with a modern ID unit more tailored, for me. Id tones etc.. more features. my Partner now uses an AT Pro. and it has freq shift so we can hunt side by side. My MXt and his now traded whites could not do that. i dont need prospector or beach mode on the MXT but they are fun to play with on land anyway. interesting modes. i give kudos to Dave Johnson for his fine design on the MXT. i do hunt some wet environments and prefer the waterproof AT PRo for that reason ( creek bank freshwater lake beach), light rain. again the MXT is a great unit, just not a water proof unit. i am clumsy. i had a friend drop a unit, new Teknetics, in a puddle. fried it. soo i like dunkables, submergibles for that reason. .
i have a turn on and go old 1986 Tesoro Silver Sabre Plus unit. not Montes favorite out of the Sabre line, in fact his least, but it is more suitable for my hunting needs, and have hunted with it 20 yrs so its an old friend like a dog that goes everywhere with me. tough, inexpensive, can always find one for sale. wont loose $500 plus if stolen. and it produces. but land use only, have used it near water and they are tough, but never dropped it. dont want to. but its mainly a backup now, check out a spot i can come back too.
Monte will call out the SimplEx if it does not meet the hype. he will give it a fair shake i know. he will apply it to many conditions and all functions will be tested and carefully evaluated. we live opposite coasts. but if a company would build a "Monte" to his specs, it would sure interest me.
i do see concerns over companies closing, warranty, strife, tariffs conflict, etc... would want availability and warranty and service. most parts made overseas even if assembled here. i hate politics.
I have confidence in Monte, although we have never met anywhere but the forums. he has taught me a lot on line. Monte has worked for some companies and knows the ins and outs of business, and he has used many detectors and brands, and continues to do so. he is not a cheerleader for one brand specifically and i have seen him point out things on all brands. he uses one for what it can do, and for specific purposes. It was his articles that got me thinking, why own a bunch of basically the same? maybe one a little "better' than the other build wise price wise etc... but basically the same hunting wise? get a variety if needed. the key ..needed. .
i cannot afford a herd of units. i have an analog all manual favorite that has produced, an updated of my original Eldorado in the Umax version. thats for reduced weight, non ID relic hunting.
My heavier MXT is being replaced by My AT PRO. the MXT is a fine unit, just going lighter with a modern ID unit more tailored, for me. Id tones etc.. more features. my Partner now uses an AT Pro. and it has freq shift so we can hunt side by side. My MXt and his now traded whites could not do that. i dont need prospector or beach mode on the MXT but they are fun to play with on land anyway. interesting modes. i give kudos to Dave Johnson for his fine design on the MXT. i do hunt some wet environments and prefer the waterproof AT PRo for that reason ( creek bank freshwater lake beach), light rain. again the MXT is a great unit, just not a water proof unit. i am clumsy. i had a friend drop a unit, new Teknetics, in a puddle. fried it. soo i like dunkables, submergibles for that reason. .
i have a turn on and go old 1986 Tesoro Silver Sabre Plus unit. not Montes favorite out of the Sabre line, in fact his least, but it is more suitable for my hunting needs, and have hunted with it 20 yrs so its an old friend like a dog that goes everywhere with me. tough, inexpensive, can always find one for sale. wont loose $500 plus if stolen. and it produces. but land use only, have used it near water and they are tough, but never dropped it. dont want to. but its mainly a backup now, check out a spot i can come back too.
Monte will call out the SimplEx if it does not meet the hype. he will give it a fair shake i know. he will apply it to many conditions and all functions will be tested and carefully evaluated. we live opposite coasts. but if a company would build a "Monte" to his specs, it would sure interest me.
i do see concerns over companies closing, warranty, strife, tariffs conflict, etc... would want availability and warranty and service. most parts made overseas even if assembled here. i hate politics.
Whelp friends this is embarrassing as the OP but I decided to cancel my Simplex pre order due to the new sale on the Nox 600 including a free coil. Going to sell that bonus 6" coil to bring the total cost down to a reasonable range for me.
Slightly over budget still but happy to be entering into the hobby with a more mid range machine!
Still will be excited to follow the Simplex though and might end up getting one for my wife down the road, who knows!
Slightly over budget still but happy to be entering into the hobby with a more mid range machine!
Still will be excited to follow the Simplex though and might end up getting one for my wife down the road, who knows!
cellrdwellr
Elite Member
well good luck with your new machine!
KOB
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But wait ! There's more !!! Next month another detector coming out will be on sale !
Beachhunter
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ghound
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It does sound like a good deal, the fact it's at a lower price doesn't diminish it's performance, make no mistake it's a top performer.
Roadking52
New Member
Haha. I know waiting is a killer for me too but I’m hanging in there.
Maybe more people will drop out and I’ll be higher on the list.
Good luck with your new unit and happy hunting.
ghound
Elite Member
You could maybe get a simplex quicker from the UK, even seen a few 2nd hand for sale.
You know it wouldn't be close to our price here, stop baiting a newbie.
I too am waiting.I don't need one but I will pick one up at that price for a water proof machine. If only to hunt on the days that it rains or for spring when my regular machines get caked with mud.I currently own 4 nokta /makro machines,nothing fancy about them really but they separate targets really well and I really couldn't be happier with their product unless they added a 25-28Khz frequency to their machines.
roygpa
Junior Member
A Simplex+ showed up on eBay this morning being sold from California.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokta-Simplex-WHP-Under-Water-Metal-Detector-Headphones-Cap-Included/174068892566?hash=item2887508396:g:IKoAAOSwVoBdit4Z
Maybe the shipment has arrived here in the US?
The suspense is killing me! Not really, but it is fun.
Mods: If it is against the rules to post links to Ebay sales (I'm not affiliated with it,) please change or delete this message.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokta-Simplex-WHP-Under-Water-Metal-Detector-Headphones-Cap-Included/174068892566?hash=item2887508396:g:IKoAAOSwVoBdit4Z
Maybe the shipment has arrived here in the US?
The suspense is killing me! Not really, but it is fun.
Mods: If it is against the rules to post links to Ebay sales (I'm not affiliated with it,) please change or delete this message.
I should have kept my pre-order active if only to sell it at an inflated price when they inevitably sell out! Missed opportunity lol.
roygpa
Junior Member
I emailed the seller on E-bay and asked if they had it in tock and if so, when it would ship. if I purchased it.
roygpa
Junior Member
Seller says it is not in Stock and that they are putting the auction "back in drafts for now"
Darnit!
Darnit!
detectingMO
Forum Supporter
Nope, and no ETA.
SkiWhiz
Elite Member
Going to be a great little detector especially for the price.
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