metaladdict
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I have the At pro and like it's descriptive audio. I am not buying an Apex, even though it's better in saltwater.
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I have the At pro and like it's descriptive audio. I am not buying an Apex, even though it's better in saltwater.
diggindaboot
Elite Member
I wouldn't hold your breath. I would be shocked if they release any new machines in the next year.
I wouldn't. SMF is proving to be very good on jewelry and gold. An SMF Apex Pro with more depth and settings would appeal to the more advanced detectorist.
Who knows, may 6 or 7 single frequencies going beyond the 40khz of the Nox, more adjustments etc. The current Apex has been in the works for a while. At some point Garrett got to a cutoff point and decided this is where we stop with the ACE Apex. All the while working on expanding their tech for the next generation of AT Apex's.
Either way, it's good for all of us as development continues after a few years of stagnation. For the most part I think the days of $2.5k detectors is over unless they can show you a picture of what you're digging.
My personal wish for the Apex Pro series is they would used the F75 shaft. IMO it still beats any stock shaft out there.
I wouldn't. SMF is proving to be very good on jewelry and gold. An SMF Apex Pro with more depth and settings would appeal to the more advanced detectorist.
Who knows, may 6 or 7 single frequencies going beyond the 40khz of the Nox, more adjustments etc. The current Apex has been in the works for a while. At some point Garrett got to a cutoff point and decided this is where we stop with the ACE Apex. All the while working on expanding their tech for the next generation of AT Apex's.
Either way, it's good for all of us as development continues after a few years of stagnation. For the most part I think the days of $2.5k detectors is over unless they can show you a picture of what you're digging.
My personal wish for the Apex Pro series is they would used the F75 shaft. IMO it still beats any stock shaft out there.
metaladdict
Elite Member
Yep
As a matter of fact I would like to get a T2 in the future. I never learned my F70 as well as Digger 27 did.
Diabolik
Elite Member
I know this is Garrett's first dive into the SMF game, but I still think the Vanquish 540 Pro Pack is a better deal for what you get. A second coil for the Apex is likely going to cost at least another $100. Add that to the $492 wireless APEX package. This is putting you right up into NOX 600 territory and it isn't waterproof. I am not saying the 540 is a better detector than the APEX overall, but I have personally not seen anything that would make me consider switching at this point.
diggindaboot
Elite Member
Yep
As a matter of fact I would like to get a T2 in the future. I never learned my F70 as well as Digger 27 did.
I love my 75. I would like to hunt with a T2. I have 4 coils for the 75.
detectorben
Elite Member
Well I don't beach hunt so I cannot comment in those regards. But for land hunting in Nebraska where I am the AT Pro is deeper and has better separation than the Apex. I confirmed this in my test garden and local sites. Neither one even comes close to the Equinox in depth or separation in my soil so I will not be using either one over my Equinox but that is whole other topic.
detectorben
Elite Member
So let me get this straight. You think Garrett will be releasing a machine that has not even been mentioned by anyone at Garrett in the next 6 months?? In the past it has generally taken at least a year after they even mention they are releasing something new to actual release date. Again don't hold your breath. While I agree that may be the end goal for Garrett I don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
diggindaboot
Elite Member
Bruh, I don't hold my breath for anything. Ever. I don't live life that way. Where did I say they would be releasing a new detector in 6 months ?
In the past it has generally taken at least a year after they even mention they are releasing something new to actual release date.
Certainly not the case for the Apex.
longbow62
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I think it's a stretch for detector companies to put out a new detector in consecutive years. Nokta/Makro has, but I think with them it's possible because most of their new machines have been somewhat similar in function. As in multi single frequency at best. All that is seriously different in their lines is the form factor. I think a lot of people were let down when they found out the Minelab Vanquish was not an upper end machine. I know I was.
As much as extol the merits of the Equinox line I still want to see a replacement or at least seriously reworked Etrac and CTX detectors. Faster recovery, easily updated, much lighter and ergonomic. wireless without external components, and larger screens. The Etrac and CTX are both getting a little long in the tooth in my opinion. While the tech may still be cutting edge the form factor it's enclosed in leaves much to be desired.
As much as extol the merits of the Equinox line I still want to see a replacement or at least seriously reworked Etrac and CTX detectors. Faster recovery, easily updated, much lighter and ergonomic. wireless without external components, and larger screens. The Etrac and CTX are both getting a little long in the tooth in my opinion. While the tech may still be cutting edge the form factor it's enclosed in leaves much to be desired.
He's probably referring to this post:
https://metaldetectingforum.com/showpost.php?p=3257274&postcount=14
Although you didn't technically say you anticipated that as a release date, just that you hoped it would be a release date.
Good to know, thanks!
diggindaboot
Elite Member
Bingo. In no way did I infer there would be a new release in 6 months. It would be beneficial if they did so it could be ready for the 21 summer season.
detectorben
Elite Member
Sorry I must have misunderstood when you stated next March or April which is approximately 6 months away??
Also no need to get angry. You gave your opinion and I was just giving mine. I didn't get angry at your opinion BRUH lol.
detectorben
Elite Member
I agree. It is very rare for a company to release new detectors back to back. It doesn't even really make sense from a marketing perspective even if they do have another machine ready by then. The shine of the new Apex will barely be worn off by then. They would likely hurt their own sales. I don't for see another Garrett machine until at least early 2022.
I wouldn't mind seeing a new high end machine from Minelab either but I don't think that will happen anytime soon for similar reasons. The Equinox is still selling like hot cakes and gaining hype and support all the time.
diggindaboot
Elite Member
I never get angry except when the refs cheat for Alabama.
You must always be angry...
diggindaboot
Elite Member
I think I heard that in a podcast on Youtube. If I recall, they didn't mentioned any concrete plans, such as an "Apex AT" already being in development with an anticipated release date. Rather, it was their hope that they could develop and release such a product, but would wait and see how the Apex did commercially, as well as what changes or improvements the "Apex AT" would need to have based on customer experience with the Apex.
I could be wrong, though. My memory isn't what it used to be.
I used the Apex in a trashy field where a house was dozed, granted I only used it less than an hour, but I and a buddy weren't impressed. I hate to say it but I think Garrett laid a turd.
**** Update- Garrett's great customer service replaced his Apex and he said it works much better.****
^^^ The Apex swung fine for me but it doesn't compare to the F75 ergonomics. The F75 is my go to detector with stock coil when field hunting for this reason and others.
**** Update- Garrett's great customer service replaced his Apex and he said it works much better.****
^^^ The Apex swung fine for me but it doesn't compare to the F75 ergonomics. The F75 is my go to detector with stock coil when field hunting for this reason and others.
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