For those that can't afford a detector , but still want to search for items. Or for those who want to add another type of detector .

[Tom_in_CA]

It looks like some Scientists are starting to catch up to the Dogon tribe on the planets.

Uh, and this has WHAT do with the ability of dowsing to work ?

Remember, they also threw virgins into volcanoes to control the weather. Ok, so what ? What does this have to do with TH'rs & MD'rs today ?

 

[Rudy]

It looks like some Scientists are starting to catch up to the Dogon tribe on the planets.

This is a Metal Detecting forum. I suggest you stick to posts about metal detecting, lest members think you are trolling them.

 

[Dog the Treasure Hunter]

This is a Metal Detecting forum. I suggest you stick to posts about metal detecting, lest members think you are trolling them.

Roger that. 10-4

 

[Doug Down]

We all have an inbuilt 'sixth sense', an awareness that comes all the way down from our 'caveman' ancestors who had to be in tune with their surroundings to survive. I've tried the pendulum over a map stuff but it's never worked for me. That said I've had a 'feeling' on a field to go to a particular area on an otherwise quiet day and made a great find. A solitary recovery after which I've found nothing much else of interest. Just a coincidence? Most of the first signal/last signal luck is down to the fact you are close to the field entrance, an area that would have seen the most 'traffic' down the years. On sites which were occupied for years, there would have been a lot of stuff going on and likely some really emotional events. Who's to say that some of that residual energy doesn't hang around and when we sweep over these areas with our electrical devices 'echos' can't be sparked? Detectorists often experience a feeling of being watched when they are out in lonely locations. Some I would explain as coming from the local wildlife keeping a wary watch on the intruder from the safety of the undergrowth. But not always. Metal detecting is a curious hobby, that's for sure!

 

[yooper69]

Curious as heck! After reading your post i wondered edibles or shrooms?

 

[IDXMonster]

I can parachute out a plane, land on just about any land, and start digging where I landed. Guess what? I'll find water. It's called the water table.

No! Way! It’s not so strange THAT people believe this stuff, it’s very strange as to WHY. Maybe I need to grab a couple of coat hangers…the plastic ones that I heard work better cuz they’re thicker…

 

[yooper69]

We all have an inbuilt 'sixth sense', an awareness that comes all the way down from our 'caveman' ancestors who had to be in tune with their surroundings to survive. I've tried the pendulum over a map stuff but it's never worked for me. That said I've had a 'feeling' on a field to go to a particular area on an otherwise quiet day and made a great find. A solitary recovery after which I've found nothing much else of interest. Just a coincidence? Most of the first signal/last signal luck is down to the fact you are close to the field entrance, an area that would have seen the most 'traffic' down the years. On sites which were occupied for years, there would have been a lot of stuff going on and likely some really emotional events. Who's to say that some of that residual energy doesn't hang around and when we sweep over these areas with our electrical devices 'echos' can't be sparked? Detectorists often experience a feeling of being watched when they are out in lonely locations. Some I would explain as coming from the local wildlife keeping a wary watch on the intruder from the safety of the undergrowth. But not always. Metal detecting is a curious hobby, that's for sure!

Are you related or friends with the orinal poster?

 

[sube]

I think AI with a couple coat hangers is going to be the next breakthrough in detecting imaging with dowsing what a concept wonder why the metal detector companies are not working on this (OR ARE THEY) LOL sube

 

[Tom_in_CA]

We all have an inbuilt 'sixth sense', ...... Who's to say that some of that residual energy doesn't hang around and when we sweep over these areas with our electrical devices 'echos' can't be sparked? ...... Detectorists often experience a feeling of being watched when they are out in lonely locations. ....

Doug, Here's the problem I see with this ^ ^ : In the space of your single post, notice that you are appealing to 2 different rationales :

1) a 'sixth sense' and 'feelings'. As if allusions to something mystical or supernatural. Eh ? But then you say :

2) "residual energy". Which I take to mean something scientific. Which is not relying on supernatural. Eh ?

So which is it ? Supernatural or natural ? The reason I ask is that I notice that dowsers will allude to some sort of "attraction" (as if it's scientific). But in the next breath will be alluding to supernatural and mystical . And when you point out to them that they're bordering on the occult, they quickly catch themselves (because they don't want to chalk it up to "spooks"), and will revert back to scientific explanations. Albeit, "un-discovered" science, blah blah . So then you go to show them that it doesn't carry any scientific merit, they jump back to the spooks explanation. And keep jumping back and forth depending on which hot-seat they're in.


And BTW : This ^ ^ isn't to grant that there's any ability, IN THE FIRST PLACE. Because it has never been shown to be anything better than random eventual chance, terrain clue hunches, etc.....

 

[Tom_in_CA]

And BTW : When I say "Terrain clue hunches", do not hop on the word "hunches" and say "aha !" I am not meaning that in any sort of supernatural or mystical way. I am talking about how a skilled md'r can look at an open field, and evaluate that a scenic stand of oak trees is where people probably picnicked. Or that a cellar hole is the "most likely place to find a goodie". Or , for example, a skilled nugget hunter can look at the creek or ravine or gully, and immediately tell you the most likely place that nuggets are prone to settle at. Or a beach storm erosion hunter can look at an eroded beach, and walk RIGHT TO the most likely place that mother nature deposited all the heavy-items. And in each of these cases, it has NOTHING to do with rods or dowsing.

 

[Doug Down]

Good points Tom, and yes certain areas would likely produce finds because of the history/natural makeup of the terrain. But on more than one occasion, and not just by myself, an area just 'pulls' you towards it. After making the good find, the area is 'lined out' and really focussed on. Yet nothing comparable comes up. Going slightly off-topic, I remember carrying out an 'experiment' with a small group of paranormal investigators. They were shown a photograph and asked to write down their thoughts on the image of an old house. Nobody knew it was one in the States, but the first and second guesses they had on the background of the place were very curious, detailing things about the history of the building and it's former occupants they couldn't have known. Beyond those ideas though, everything went right off tangent. I believe many people do have a first, intuitive thought, and there are stories where that feeling has made them make a choice that has prevented something catastrophic to either themselves or their family. 'Gut instinct', 'woman's intuition', 'sixth sense', whatever category it falls under, there seems to be something in it, which perhaps science can't explain.
Getting back to the dowsers skill though, I haven't a clue. It would be great if I could spin a gold ring and it was pulled over to one field in particular. Would save a lot of legwork!

 

[Doug Down]

And Yooper Sir, no, I have no connection to the original poster of the thread, just interested in the theme.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

....
Getting back to the dowsers skill though, ....

Well, I do not grant that there's any "skill", in the first place. No better than eventual random chance, subtle terrain clue guessing, etc.....

Scores of double-blind testing has been done, on persons who say they can dowse. And : It never works out.

Yes there's scores of "anecdotal stories", but : Nothing that can ever lend itself to testing.

 

[Doug Down]

Well that's a good thing then, else those folk would have cleared all the ground before we had chance to wander with our detectors! lol

 

[FliesOnly]

That said I've had a 'feeling' on a field to go to a particular area on an otherwise quiet day and made a great find. A solitary recovery after which I've found nothing much else of interest.

People generally recall only those times where they had a "feeling" and it panned out. They convieniantly forget the far more numerous times when nothing was found.

Just a coincidence?

Yes.

Who's to say that some of that residual energy doesn't hang around and when we sweep over these areas with our electrical devices 'echos' can't be sparked?

I would LOVE to see this sort of thing tested via the scientific method. Wait...it pretty much has, and as Tom pointed out, it has failed every single time.

 

[Stano4]

I think the crack pipe is too hot, better put in down

 

[TheFrood]

So maybe this should be a new thread rather than just adding more dirt on this one's grave but this
thread made me curious if anyone has played around with magnetic 6th sense implants in relation to
MDing...

Magnetic implant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm not willing to surgically implant magnets to try it out but maybe someone has seen something on
this before? :P I'm not so dedicated to discovery that I'm willing to chop myself open to perform an
experiment...

 

[sube]

So maybe this should be a new thread rather than just adding more dirt on this one's grave but this
thread made me curious if anyone has played around with magnetic 6th sense implants in relation to
MDing...

Magnetic implant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm not willing to surgically implant magnets to try it out but maybe someone has seen something on
this before? :P I'm not so dedicated to discovery that I'm willing to chop myself open to perform an
experiment...

You know sooner or later there going to chip you lol just hope you get the best MD chip at the time and make sure it's update able sube

 

[Stano4]

You know sooner or later there going to chip you lol just hope you get the best MD chip at the time and make sure it's update able sube

wow Sube--"Lost pet chip"in Stano

 

[vmc1161]

I don't know. I don't have a answer. I don't even understand a lot of what you typed. Just giving some options . Sometimes i don't find anything with a metal detector, go back out to the same spot and find stuff. Couldn't walk for awhile but kept trying. Couldn't ride a bike for awhile but kept trying . These guys didn't have a whole lot of success, but kept at it.

Hey, don't keep us in suspense ... Did you learn to walk and ride a bike or not?
Anyways, when I worked on the farm as a kid the farmer could do that and find things. He tried to teach me but it was a skill set I did not possess. ( among many) He also could tell the weather way better then the guys on TV. That part was amazing how he was right way more then them. Umm ... he tried to teach me that too ... you guest it, no success.