You tube rant

[TampaBayBrad]

The retired boomer with all week free is who I watch out for!

hehe....

 

[FelixtheCat]

The retired boomer with all week free is who I watch out for!

That's going to be me soon! I'm going to drive and plunder all over Florida!

 

[AlpoRanch]

Same thing with Picking yardsales etc. Some willl try it and then give up because they can't figure out why the $4 piece of tupperware didn't sell for $30 on Ebay. People fade in and out of detecting. I haven't gone to a local beach in 2 years. I still love coin shooting but other interests get in the way. I still bring it on the cruise ship with me for some fun. My guess is 95% of the people who give it a try don't continue with it on a regular basis. As you all know, it isn't easy. It's fun, but not easy.

 

[TampaBayBrad]

I'm going to drive and plunder all over Florida!

NOOOO!! Don't try Pinellas County! We have expensive hotels and restaurants! We have terrible traffic! And.....we have way too many pirates already!

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

That's going to be me soon! I'm going to drive and plunder all over Florida!

There's an old guy here that covers the entire dry sand area of a beach.
He's got an old sea hunter and has zero strategy for where to look. But because he's got all day, he just grids the entire beach one end to the other. His gold/hour ratio is rubbish compared to me, but damn he still finds a lot of good stuff just by virtue of getting there at 4 am and spending the entire day searching every inch of the beach.

 

[KOB]

There's an old guy here that covers the entire dry sand area of a beach.
He's got an old sea hunter and has zero strategy for where to look. But because he's got all day, he just grids the entire beach one end to the other. His gold/hour ratio is rubbish compared to me, but damn he still finds a lot of good stuff just by virtue of getting there at 4 am and spending the entire day searching every inch of the beach.

Has ZERO strategy ? Quite the opposite. Gridding the entire beach is a perfect strategy for him. And as you say , he finds good stuff.

 

[Pyriteboy]

I've bitched about this for Eons. Nothing you can do. There are a few good 1s , but most are clowns. Traveling so much as coming from Central CA all the way to OC because he can't find the goods where he lives like in So.Cal. The beach does replenish , so that's my only hope. All they care about are clicks /subs. One of them actually buys storage lockers , gets lucky finding some jewelry and then....plants it on the beach for his channel. Could even be planting storage finds for all I know.. Only thing that really bothers me is I like space. And these buffoons will often hunt close together. Like 15-20' apart. And there might be 4 or 5 of them. 1 even touts himself as an ambassador for the hobby. I seldom watch anymore. What they fail to realize is it draws too much attention and will burnout spots. And they don't care...

For those not from So-Cal, the beaches KOB refers to are in Orange County-Newport, Huntington, Bolsa Chica, Sunset, et al...the next set of beaches that are productive to the north lie in LA County- Redondo , Hermosa, Manhattan, El Porto, et al....we don't have a YouTube "problem" here. I do think everything will normalize, and what is happening now will fade away for the most part- but it will take time. The I-can't-think-for-myself hunter will eventually have back to back poor results at these spots, and then what? He will move on, to where who knows? The lazy I-don't-do my-homework field hacker will never figure out why/when these spots produce, so they will continue to guess and only have marginal success in the long run. The successful hunters will be in the right place-right time more often than not and bag most of the good, as they always have.

A few days ago I took a little road trip to one of these beaches in Orange County which had been very productive earlier in the year for some of the YouTube guys and others. I've been wanting to check this area out for years. This was just a recon to check out the parking and get the lay of the land. After 45 minutes swinging at low tide the tally was 6 bloburites, 1 Zinclon, 2 nails and some can slaw. Was I late to the party? No, I was early, setting up for next time and the time after that. Just got to figure out under what conditions this beach cuts; it's a process that will take time.

For those who want to do their own thinking but are unsure of where to go, information on where the best spots in Southern California are can be had by snagging a copy of "Detecting Southern California Beaches" by Don Barthel.

 

[Rasyfromwayupnorth]

Beach metal detecting in "youtube" is not different than anything else. For example hunting and shooting, camping, fishing, and so on. There is no way for one to stop the crowd of beach hunters, unless one owns the beach. Just think about this: have you ever had a favorite "secret" hunting spot, one where you had a high success rate, then a few years later bunch of new hunters crowded the place so greatly that you had to stop hunting there? Those "youtube" videos are a business these days.

That said: I do enjoy watching "them" beach hunters, gold prospectors, big game hunters, car races...all over the world while sitting in my couch potato chair as the snow begins to melt in my backyard (still have a couple of feet of it left). See...I can travel all around the world without having to pay for airfare or drive my car

By the way, I was watching a video of a guy treasure hunting in the UK. He was taking his band new coil for a spin after installing it on his detector. So he zooms his camera on the coil, it it was not installed properly. The front of the coil was pointing toward his boots instead of pointing forward. I have no idea how long it took for him to realize his mistake, since I just started laughing and switched to another video. well, I guess we all make mistakes now and then.

 

[itsaring!]

By the way, I was watching a video of a guy treasure hunting in the UK. He was taking his band new coil for a spin after installing it on his detector. So he zooms his camera on the coil, it it was not installed properly. The front of the coil was pointing toward his boots instead of pointing forward. I have no idea how long it took for him to realize his mistake, since I just started laughing and switched to another video. well, I guess we all make mistakes now and then.

That's not actually a mistake. Some people run their coils backwards on purpose. I know someone who has been detecting 40 years that does it. As far as things that can wreck a good beach spot. Telling a person fishing what you found. Same for the random person walking and life guards. I try to mind my own business, but always have one of the three run an tell me what someone else with a detector told them they found. And I'm not talking pull tabs. Perfect example was I was meeting someone at one of my spots I'd been hammering and doing good. I was approaching it from the North. Fisherman asked me if I ever found a gold tooth grill. Even though I have, I sez "NO!" Well the fisherman says. " Well the person in the water down there just did!" Only thing he didn't know was they found two of them the same day. So I had to tell the person I was detecting with about the " Loose lips sink ships" story. That fisherman was telling anyone walking down the beach someone else's business.

 

[LongJohnSilver1]

Has ZERO strategy ? Quite the opposite. Gridding the entire beach is a perfect strategy for him. And as you say , he finds good stuff.

I guess trying everything could be viewed as a strategy when your strength is lots of time on your hands

 

[itsaring!]

I guess trying everything could be viewed as a strategy when your strength is lots of time on your hands

They will learn later when their shoulders and ankles are toast. I think my trusty old CTX wrecked my shoulder? And I only swing about 3 hours. People I run across here tell me they do 12 hours. Hell to the Naw!

 

[KOB]

For those not from So-Cal, the beaches KOB refers to are in Orange County-Newport, Huntington, Bolsa Chica, Sunset, et al...the next set of beaches that are productive to the north lie in LA County- Redondo , Hermosa, Manhattan, El Porto, et al....we don't have a YouTube "problem" here. I do think everything will normalize, and what is happening now will fade away for the most part- but it will take time. The I-can't-think-for-myself hunter will eventually have back to back poor results at these spots, and then what? He will move on, to where who knows? The lazy I-don't-do my-homework field hacker will never figure out why/when these spots produce, so they will continue to guess and only have marginal success in the long run. The successful hunters will be in the right place-right time more often than not and bag most of the good, as they always have.

A few days ago I took a little road trip to one of these beaches in Orange County which had been very productive earlier in the year for some of the YouTube guys and others. I've been wanting to check this area out for years. This was just a recon to check out the parking and get the lay of the land. After 45 minutes swinging at low tide the tally was 6 bloburites, 1 Zinclon, 2 nails and some can slaw. Was I late to the party? No, I was early, setting up for next time and the time after that. Just got to figure out under what conditions this beach cuts; it's a process that will take time.

For those who want to do their own thinking but are unsure of where to go, information on where the best spots in Southern California are can be had by snagging a copy of "Detecting Southern California Beaches" by Don Barthel.

So 100% true. Though there is a tuber who predominantly films Redondo/Torrance. Buy I'm sure you've seen the recent videos from this "crew" where they head north and hit 5 beaches in a day. They basically got skunked. You could tell they didn't know the beaches at all because they've never been there before. I get it though , as your own spots dry up you have to branch out and travel. And this is exactly what I do up and down our coast. But I've done this OVER DECADES and these tubers just don't have the time in. Not to say I haven't had bad days. I've had many and that's how you learn. But I think for these guys it's more instant gratification for their channel.

My guess is you hit the BC area. I used to live 1 mile from there , met my x-wife and considered that my "home" beach. When I talked to those tubers they told me they never really hunted it because of all the trash. I didn't say a word. It has always had a few hunters here and there , and club hunts were held there as long as I can remember. So it wasn't entirely unkown. But it is a very intimidating beach....until now. Once these guys got lucky over a couple weeks and blasted it on their channels , "my spot" could very well be done with. Even 1 forum member here recently posted he had his best 2 days ever. And he never knew of the place until these YouTube clowns. On the flip side , it doesn't matter anymore about honey holes or secret spots in this day and age. It's a business for these guys. Really kinda surprised that 1 tuber hasn't commented on here as i know he has posted stuff in the past. I don't mind giving tips to good friends who I'd rather see them find gold then the walk-on tubers.

I bought Don's book sometime in the 90s. It was more of a binder/pamphlet and had great info. I wish I still had it. I met Don a couple of times while out hunting and he had a few years on me. No idea if he is around anymore. It was really because of him and that book that I took a more serious approach to branching out and learning other beaches farther away from where I lived.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Has ZERO strategy ? Quite the opposite. Gridding the entire beach is a perfect strategy for him. And as you say , he finds good stuff.

There was a local elderly retired yokel in my area, who made a monthly schedule of all the sand boxes & tan bark boxes , of all the schools and parks within a ~10 mile radius of him. And when each month was over, he had hit all of them on his daily routine. And then promptly start all over again on his mapped route. Thus : "keeping them clean".

Needless to say, he only ever got modern stuff, junk, and ... yes ..... by the end of each month, he *would indeed* have a gold ring or two. And by the end of the year, he'd have an impressive shadow box of a few dozen gold items, and hundreds of dollars of clad.

HOWEVER, that is just scouting for random modern losses, where there's no rhyme or reason. I would MUCH rather go out and find the 2 or 3 gold rings in a single day , after beach erosion, than to have spent all month scouting sandboxes. There's a different skill and strategy for each. Even though, yes, at the end of the year, the two person's tallies might be the same.

 

[TheFrood]

There's an old guy here that covers the entire dry sand area of a beach.
He's got an old sea hunter and has zero strategy for where to look. But because he's got all day, he just grids the entire beach one end to the other. His gold/hour ratio is rubbish compared to me, but damn he still finds a lot of good stuff just by virtue of getting there at 4 am and spending the entire day searching every inch of the beach.

Seems that the stuff lost in dry sand isn't going to move much unless there is equipment moving around the sand on the
beach, so anything lost changing clothes, putting on sunscreen, etc. is going to remain where it lies. Not as much activity
to cause someone to lose a chain or ring or something so maybe less things lost, but the conditions should be more stable,
right? Look for where there were the most people and that's your strategy for where to detect.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... Look for where there were the most people and that's your strategy for where to detect.

Or, conversely, "Look for where mother nature will deposit the heavy objects, and that's your strategy for where to detect"

 

[TheFrood]

There was a local elderly retired yokel in my area, who made a monthly schedule of all the sand boxes & tan bark boxes , of all the schools and parks within a ~10 mile radius of him. And when each month was over, he had hit all of them on his daily routine. And then promptly start all over again on his mapped route. Thus : "keeping them clean".

Needless to say, he only ever got modern stuff, junk, and ... yes ..... by the end of each month, he *would indeed* have a gold ring or two. And by the end of the year, he'd have an impressive shadow box of a few dozen gold items, and hundreds of dollars of clad.

HOWEVER, that is just scouting for random modern losses, where there's no rhyme or reason. I would MUCH rather go out and find the 2 or 3 gold rings in a single day , after beach erosion, than to have spent all month scouting sandboxes. There's a different skill and strategy for each. Even though, yes, at the end of the year, the two person's tallies might be the same.

I think just getting out, moving around, bending down and digging a little, standing back up is a win... It's more exercise
than a lot of modern people see in a month. I'm kind of in the same boat. Finding "treasure" is nice, but for me it's the
same as when I go fishing. Spending the day at the beach sifting sand... it's so much better than every other day of the
week that it's like living a different life. It's so amazing to have a day where you can just enjoy it and it's not a challenge
to find a reason not to use drain cleaner as your coffee creamer.

I thought of you when I was at the Renaissance Faire last weekend Tom... Was looking through the antique coins one of
the vendors was selling and on a whim asked if they had any large cents... Was thinking about seeding some up in your
area for some of the YouTubers to find (knowing word would get back to you about finding large cents on the beach in
central California) but the cost was a bit prohibitive for that kind of humor

 

[TampaBayBrad]

Look for where there were the most people and that's your strategy for where to detect.

Around here that's the big public beach access parking lots. And that's where the most detectors are, too. Even at sun-up like me.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... (knowing word would get back to you about finding large cents on the beach in
central California)...........

Now THAT ^ ^ would be cruel. Tsk tsk.

But seriously now, I did get one of my three Calif. large cents, on a beach in Monterey, after storm erosion here. But they're rare. Heck I've found more GOLD coins than that, after beach erosion here (4 of my 16 gold coins were d/t beach erosion). And more REALES here after beach erosion here. But alas, only a single LC after beach erosion here.

 

[Drew61]

I would think the guy from up north hitting socal beaches would be a consistent losing venture in gas money alone but I don’t know what YouTube pays Yo.

 

[Slimpickuns]

A few days ago I took a little road trip to one of these beaches in Orange County which had been very productive earlier in the year for some of the YouTube guys and others. I've been wanting to check this area out for years. This was just a recon to check out the parking and get the lay of the land. After 45 minutes swinging at low tide the tally was 6 bloburites, 1 Zinclon, 2 nails and some can slaw. Was I late to the party? No, I was early, setting up for next time and the time after that. Just got to figure out under what conditions this beach cuts; it's a process that will take time.

Don't lie, you went down there to get FWJ's autograph didn't ya?