Legend or Equinox and why?

[Cherry Picker]

Put the Legend in 10 or 15 khz, and it will essentially be a Simplex. They will hit targets almost identically. However, with the Legend's much faster speed, SMF modes, the iron filter control, etc, it will find countless targets that the Simplex misses. I could give numerous examples of such if requested.

Since I wrote my previous post, I went to Paystreak's channel. It just so happens that he posted a video yesterday titled, "Comparing Nokta Legend and XP Deus 2 on real targets in the park".

The comparison was so poorly done, that it was laughable. With no exaggeration, it was by far, the worst comparison test I have ever seen. There was so much wrong with it, that it's hard to know where to begin, but I'll try:

1) The detectors were using different sized coils.

2) There was no relevant mention of any modes or settings.

3) Paystreak's swing was very different than the other guys swing. If I had to sum up the other guys swing in one word, it would be "sloppy".

Anyway, they (poorly) compared 5 targets. Both detectors hit all 5 targets, but on one hole, the Legend only gave a one way hit. That turned out to be a nail and pulltab in the hole. Incidentally, that guys Pitch mode on his Legend doesn't sound right.

It doesn't matter though, because for all the reasons I mentioned, the comparison was worthless and meaningless. However, the video has great value if it's used as a teaching tool to show how bad a comparison test could be

I need more time on the Legend to make any performance evaluations, but so far, I can say I'd rather pay $300 for a Simplex than $700 for a Legend. I haven't seen a big performance difference, yet. I do find the Simplex much less complicated to configure. I still haven't figured out how to save, and then load my own custom profile LOL. I just leave it where I last had it.

 

[Martin_V3i]

Nothing personal and no offence to the guy using the Legend, but uh, he doesn't seem very good at whatever it is he's doing.

Sloppy swing styles in videos, actually done even by literal manufacturers reps, who literally announce themselves and wear clothes with the companies name, but they then swing a coil like a beginner. Loose coil wires, swinging in a fast fish tail method.

 

[Diga]

I need more time on the Legend to make any performance evaluations, but so far, I can say I'd rather pay $300 for a Simplex than $700 for a Legend. I haven't seen a big performance difference, yet.

I've extensively compared the Legend and Simplex.

1) The Legend's SMF modes are notably superior for target ID accuracy. Not just in comparing it to the SF of the Simplex, but even in comparing the Legend's SMF modes to its SF modes.

2) Separation in nonferrous trash, is superior due to the low weighted M3 SMF mode, and faster speed.

3) Separation in ferrous trash, is superior due to the high weighted M2 SMF mode, along with an iron bias control. For the same reasons, iron identification is much better on the Legend.

I'll post a video later of a YT'er doing a head to head comparison with coins and nails. In the video, the Legend is smokin' the Simplex.

 

[Diga]

I'll post a video later of a YT'er doing a head to head comparison with coins and nails. In the video, the Legend is smokin' the Simplex.

I found the video.


The video shows exactly what I experienced when I compared the Simplex and the Legend with coins and nails. Note that the tester is correctly using the high weighted M2 (better in iron than low weight), as well as adjusting the iron filter and recovery speed setting. None of that is on the Simplex, and that's why the Legend hits all the coins in the test, and the Simplex hits none.


If the same test was done with aluminum trash instead of nails, and the Legend was in the low weighted M3 mode, or 4 khz, then the Legend would hit all the coins with a proper ID, and the Simplex would miss them all.

The superior target identification, separation, speed, and unmasking abilities of these newer SMF detectors, is why I would only use a SF detector if I absolutely had to.

BTW- Due to SMF, the Legend will also smoke the Simplex in mild to highly mineralized ground, and at the beach.

 

[choppadude]

Looks like TNsharpshooter has found another avenue to try to shove his videos down peoples throats. It appears to me and Im sure other that you are more or less trying to justify your results rather than just state them and let them speak for themselves.
I own the Legend (actually several of them) and I also own the EQ800 and have hundreds of hours on each. My real world results actually obtained in the field show that both the Legend and EQ800 are very close in performance and results. Where they are NOT close is in the price point and support after the sale. Nokta wins this one hands down.
And I will not say the Legend is better than the Manticore or the Deus 2 (I own both) but I do find I am enjoying the Legend enough that I have not felt the need to dust off the other two in awhile now.

 

[jmaclen]

The earlier responses from TNsharpshooter in this topic are from the summer of 2022. There have been more software and hardware updates/improvements to the Legend since then for sure.

I owned two Simplex models and I have to agree with some other posters that I would much rather own a Legend running V1.11 software than any of the Simplex models, but that is just me, how and where I detect and I have never spent $700 on a Legend. The closest I can get a Legend to act like a Simplex is to put the Legend in 15 kHz, Pitch tones, sensitivity 20 and with recovery speed on 1.

I trust the performance of the Legend so much that I sold my last Equinox 800 a month ago. I simply wasn't going to use it anymore. After doing a ton of head to head detecting and testing between the Legend running V1.11 and my Equinox 800 running the last available software update, the Legend equaled or surpassed my 800 consistently. That 800 had served me super well for four years and found lots of wonderful things but, I needed an easy to transition land to water detector that I could trust to be waterproof and my out of warranty Equinox 800 lost that contest too to my Legend.

 

[Cherry Picker]

I've extensively compared the Legend and Simplex.

1) The Legend's SMF modes are notably superior for target ID accuracy. Not just in comparing it to the SF of the Simplex, but even in comparing the Legend's SMF modes to its SF modes.

2) Separation in nonferrous trash, is superior due to the low weighted M3 SMF mode, and faster speed.

3) Separation in ferrous trash, is superior due to the high weighted M2 SMF mode, along with an iron bias control. For the same reasons, iron identification is much better on the Legend.

I'll post a video later of a YT'er doing a head to head comparison with coins and nails. In the video, the Legend is smokin' the Simplex.

Don't waist your time with a staged video. I'm not a newbie. I've had them both. I found no more with the Legend than with the Simplex. Isn't that what really counts? It does for me.