Yet another silly season of "The Curse of Oak Island" coming up!

[FreeBirdTim]

Here's the writup for the premiere episode of Season 11 (unreal that it's still around)! What a joke!

S11 E1 · On the Money
PREMIERE
42 min · Nov 7, 2023
As Rick and Marty Lagina and their team relaunch their quest to solve the Oak Island mystery, they make a number of the most historic discoveries ever unearthed in North America.

What historic finds? Rusty nails? Pieces of rotted wood? A gold gilt button? How can people still keep watching this baloney?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... How can people still keep watching this baloney?

Easy ! Because there is a fabulous treasure *most certainly there*. It's just that it's a : "Little more to the right". Or "A little more to the left". Or "A little deeper" (and so forth to infinite regression). BUT AT NO POINT is there not a fabulous treasure.


I mean.... shucks..... it's kind of hard to argue with rusty nails, rotted wood, and a button. RIGHT ??

 

[Diga]

They're in it for the ratings, hence, more money. So, why not plant items? Too many people would have to know about the planting, which means a high risk of being exposed?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

They're in it for the ratings, hence, more money. So, why not plant items? Too many people would have to know about the planting, which means a high risk of being exposed?

Re.: the issue of "plant" (for sake of Hollywood hype / ratings) vs not-plant : I'm not so sure they need to worry about 'planting' IN THE FIRST PLACE ! And here's why : Because if you go to any location in the USA, where people have lived & worked for the last 200+ yrs., I guarantee you that you will find : 1) nails, 2) rotted wood, 3) a button.

Heck, I bet if I detected my backyard long enough, here in Monterey, CA, that in that .75 acre backyard that I would eventually find (gasp) a nail, a rotting piece of wood, and a button. Say it isn't so, eh ? Therefore, shucks, I ought to the start the legend of a treasure in my backyard then !! Quick, call the news crews !!

 

[Diga]

I see your point Tom, but I'm talking about planting something more substantial than a piece of wood, a nail, a button, etc. Something like a belt buckle from the time period, a coin from the time period, or -gasp- a broken lock from the time period. Those kind of things would keep the gullible glued to the screen, and the money rolling in.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

...... Those kind of things would keep the gullible glued to the screen, ....

Ok. Your point is duly noted. But notice that things like "belt buckles", and "period coins" and "broken locks" are things that are ALSO found just about anywhere that places have been populated for long periods. For example: A quick look at the show & tell sections on this forum show frequent : belt buckles, period coins, and broken locks. Thus even if not "planted" on O.I. do not, of necessity mean: Fabulous treasure.

But to the "gullible" as you call them (those not versed in our hobby), then sure, they don't realize just how much junk is in the ground.

 

[floridabig]

I understand how people can be getting tired of seeing this show go on and on, but your talking about finding rusty nails, wood, button. To be honest though that's what many of us watch on these YouTube channels featuring fellow detectorist. It's about the thrill, the possibility of what could be there, that's the same feeling we all have when out digging. Yes you can find many of those same items anywhere but there have been some historical pieces found on oak Island. I am a fan and will be tuning in, they may or may not find a treasure but I can only keep hope that treasure will be found, after all isn't that what each one of us do every time were out hope for something amazing to pop out of ground. We all want a bobby dazzler.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... It's about the thrill, the possibility of what could be there, that's the same feeling we all have when out digging. .....

Yes. Sure. There is no doubt that there's the thrill of "something for nothing". The thrill of "finding a treasure". That's what got every last one of us into md'ing after all. SURE ! That's what hooks a gambler to being a gambling addict. SURE ! No one can resist a good treasure story, SURE ! Because, shucks, no one wants to get laughed at all-the-way to the bank, eh ?

So we put critical thinking aside, and "hold out hope".

But one thing that will separate success vs wasted time, is to add skeptical critical thinking to legend/story that you intend to chase. Because then you're prone to spend your time on the leads/stories that have any sort of chance of being true.

 

[Xxray]

I watched it a couple times years ago, instantly thought it was a cheap gimmick, and never watched again.
That would be my suggestion for anyone who hasn't watched it yet.
[I don't watch detecting videos either]

 

[60streeter]

Here's the writup for the premiere episode of Season 11 (unreal that it's still around)! What a joke!

S11 E1 · On the Money
PREMIERE
42 min · Nov 7, 2023
As Rick and Marty Lagina and their team relaunch their quest to solve the Oak Island mystery, they make a number of the most historic discoveries ever unearthed in North America.

What historic finds? Rusty nails? Pieces of rotted wood? A gold gilt button? How can people still keep watching this baloney?

THE ONLY GUY THERE WHO HAS EVER FOUND ANYTHING WAS THE GUY WITH THE METAL DETECTOR.....

 

[TheFrood]

Hmm. I think maybe this is what the whole dents thing is about... They've dug up so much of the island that there must not be much island left to dig so they need a new show to move on to...

But one thing that will separate success vs wasted time, is to add skeptical critical thinking to legend/story that you intend to chase. Because then you're prone to spend your time on the leads/stories that have any sort of chance of being true.

I imagine that there is a whole new term necessary to describe how the people who put up money for oak island feel... Sunk cost fallacy just doesn't seem adequate any longer. Unless they are making decent wages from the show... In that case, give me a shovel. I'd much rather get paid to dig for a nonexistent treasure than what I do every day all day now...

 

[FreeBirdTim]

The original treasure was supposed to be pirate treasure. In ten seasons, this stupid show has somehow gone from pirate treasure to nonsense about the Knights Templar and a possible location for the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant! What a crock! This is a perfect example of trash TV at it's worst.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

The original treasure was supposed to be pirate treasure. In ten seasons, this stupid show has somehow gone from pirate treasure to nonsense about the Knights Templar and a possible location for the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant! What a crock! This is a perfect example of trash TV at it's worst.

Well sure. OF COURSE. Because don't you know that we've *already established* that there's a "fabulous treasure" there. That part is simply a given. Ok ? It's the default starting premise.


And now it's merely a factor of establishing who put it there and how big it is. Eg.: Knights Templar, pirates, freemasons, etc... But rest assured : Fabulous treasure. Eh ?

 

[stetam]

Well I like it

Steve

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Steve, have you watched all ten seasons of the show? What evidence have they found that would give any proof that there is treasure there? A deep hole in the ground that keeps flooding? Sorry, but that proves nothing.

 

[floridabig]

I keep seeing a lot of people here saying the non-existent treasure. How many people over the years have searched for the treasure in the Superstitious mountains, how many people have searched for lost confederate gold, and I could go on. These treasures haven't been found so are they non-existent as well. We don't know how these stories originated. I know there have been so many different theories on oak Island and no I don't believe the holy Grail or Shakespeares work is down there, but I do believe there could be something of value there, the island has seen so much history why can't there be. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. We will have to see what happens.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

...... the island has seen so much history why can't there be....

Hhhhhmmm, no, there's no more history there, on that speck of land, that a myriad/multitude of land on the east coast of the USA. The east coast is RIDDLED with colonial history. The only reason why it *seems* that O.I. is more-so, is the constant drumbeat of the legend.


But if you studies a variety of east coast promontories and bays and such : You would find equal or more history, to just-as-old, and just as prolific (if not more so).

 

[FreeBirdTim]

These treasures haven't been found so are they non-existent as well

That's the other problem with treasure stories. No one knows if the treasure legend was true and if it was found by someone smart enough to keep their mouth shut. The Laginas have no idea if anything was ever found there in the 1800's. Maybe there was a chest of gold hidden on Oak Island, but it's obviously long gone. If they haven't found it in over ten years of drilling, digging and excavating that island, then it's not there.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... if it was found ....

Hey there Free-Bird-Tim: Who ever said there was an "it", in the first place ? The only thing this statement says/assumes, is that there was ever a "fabulous treasure" IN THE FIRST PLACE. Ok, says who ??

 

[TheFrood]

Well, just because it's overly dramatized doesn't mean it can't be entertaining to watch... The dramatization may be what makes it entertaining.

I think that even if they did find some kind of treasure there, they wouldn't indicate it on the show... I mean, then the show would end, right?

Also, just because a treasure isn't found in location A doesn't mean there isn't treasure in location B... But is there any part of oak island that hasn't been dug up yet over the last what? 50 years? 75 years?*

*so I went and looked up things about Oak Island's history... People have been digging up the island for almost 175 years trying to find treasure.