Billy
Senior Member
Now that's a beaute!
I am making one like this tomorrow, except it will be on a 4 wheelled garden trolley which I can use on the beach as well as out bush ... will post pics tomorrow... can't wait to make it.
Water Sifter
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I am making one like this tomorrow, except it will be on a 4 wheelled garden trolley which I can use on the beach as well as out bush ... will post pics tomorrow... can't wait to make it.
Nortonics
Elite Member
Beware that 2" tubing may not be buoyant enough to hold a filled up sifter of sand/gravel above the water.
When I used my old innertube one I would simply dump the contents of my scoop into the basket and keep right on detecting, dumping multiple scoops into it during the hunt. While it tagged along behind me with the rope tether it would naturally filter most the sand out, and only until it got real full, to the point of submerging, would I go through it looking for the treasures. This method provided a substantial time savings, allowing me to detect more area in the same amount of time, thus more finds...
Nortonics
Elite Member
One other thing about building your own I realized yesterday. After you add up all the pieces and parts needed to duplicate that effort you are going to be real close to the price of just buying one prebuilt from the source where I snagged that picture from at http://www.whitesoflongisland.com (go to accessories -> scoops and you'll see it). Their price is $70.
Here's a general list of materials that would be needed. The most expensive parts are the PVC pieces, of which I've included Home Depot pricing:
qty. 4 - 90 degree 4" PVC elbow @ $3.21/ea.
qty. 1 - 10' of 4" PVC pipe @ $14.14
You'll need the following as well:
PVC adhesive
Heavy-duty galvanized ½” mesh screen – at least 16” x 16”
½” x 4” treated wood - 64” to 72” long
Galvanized wood screws – many
½” wood trim - 64” to 72” long
Galvanized horseshoe style brad nails – many
Length of rot resistant rope – 5’
Bag of long Nylon zip ties
qty. 2 - 4" hose clamps
suitable handle
I couldn't tell you the price of the above items for sure, but realistically you'll need to buy a box or more quantity than you need of some of them. Certainly with your time to drive to get the stuff (gas money) and your labor you're going to be close to the $70 price point to just buy one. Food for thought...
Here's a general list of materials that would be needed. The most expensive parts are the PVC pieces, of which I've included Home Depot pricing:
qty. 4 - 90 degree 4" PVC elbow @ $3.21/ea.
qty. 1 - 10' of 4" PVC pipe @ $14.14
You'll need the following as well:
PVC adhesive
Heavy-duty galvanized ½” mesh screen – at least 16” x 16”
½” x 4” treated wood - 64” to 72” long
Galvanized wood screws – many
½” wood trim - 64” to 72” long
Galvanized horseshoe style brad nails – many
Length of rot resistant rope – 5’
Bag of long Nylon zip ties
qty. 2 - 4" hose clamps
suitable handle
I couldn't tell you the price of the above items for sure, but realistically you'll need to buy a box or more quantity than you need of some of them. Certainly with your time to drive to get the stuff (gas money) and your labor you're going to be close to the $70 price point to just buy one. Food for thought...
whippy
Full Member
Thanks Heavy, for the reply to my PM and the pictures. If you don't mind, I'm going to try that out with the shovel as well as find a way to accomplish your other idea on it.
I'll keep you posted if I get around to making it half worthy of mention.
Coolwhips
I'll keep you posted if I get around to making it half worthy of mention.
Coolwhips
Ducksoup
New Member
I made my water sifter for under $20. I bought a small roll of wire fence (holes are less than half inch square) 1 8' 2"x4" and then 2 of those water noodles that you use in pools, I had the 2" screws laying around as well as zip ties. Mine is like 20" square or something real close.. if you want pics just private message me.
fugazi
Full Member
cant get my md wet yet.however there is a few spots along lake michigan where the did some dredging. hey nate from kelly co. is the garrett ace 250 water proof or water resistant or just the coil ?
Billy
Senior Member
Check out the Shermanator Sieve here:
http://www.metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=193226#post193226
http://www.metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?p=193226#post193226
THE BARON OF JUNK
New Member
feed dish and inner-tube about 20 bucks works great
i dont recommend the pvc sifters . go to tractor supply or most any feed store and you will find feed trays of various sizes the most common ones are about 20-22 inches in diameter . and usually black . they are about 5-6 inches deep . i got mine for less than 10 bucks . then find a narrow size inner-tube like a 16-215-75 or narrower again less than 10 bucks . i forget the size i ended up using but you want the tube to be about 5-6 inches thick when you air it up . and you want the feed dish to fit snug into the tube . then take the feed dish and layout marks about 3/4" apart across the entire bottom of the feed dish and drill all the marks with a 1/4" drill bit . also drill about 8-10 holes around the side of the dish about half way up for the zip ties , then zip tie the tube to the tray and tie a lanyard on it and your done . one note is to mark the tube with a wrap of colored electrical tape or paint to let you know where the valve stem on the tube is as that will set off your detector . so when you are done picking the treasure from the sifter you can tip it up to one side so every thing slides to the opposite side from the valve stem and then you can check it with your detector to make sure you didn't miss something , before you dump it out. i detect with mine all the time even if i dont need it , as it is a very handy emergency flotation device just in case . or if you want to take a rest just jump in it and float around , thats a sure way to get some looks at the beach. lol .
i built one of those 20" square schedule 40 - 4" pvc sifters a few years back and i used one time and that was it . it was heavy and cumbersome to transport . also i smacked my elbow into it about 20 times when it would drift up behind me and i was shoveling. and it was no where near as buoyant as the inner-tube type. it weighed about 15-20 pounds . my tube type one weighs about 3-4 pounds and i dont have to worry about laying it on top of any other gear while i am traveling . i will post a pic of it as soon as i get a chance .
i dont recommend the pvc sifters . go to tractor supply or most any feed store and you will find feed trays of various sizes the most common ones are about 20-22 inches in diameter . and usually black . they are about 5-6 inches deep . i got mine for less than 10 bucks . then find a narrow size inner-tube like a 16-215-75 or narrower again less than 10 bucks . i forget the size i ended up using but you want the tube to be about 5-6 inches thick when you air it up . and you want the feed dish to fit snug into the tube . then take the feed dish and layout marks about 3/4" apart across the entire bottom of the feed dish and drill all the marks with a 1/4" drill bit . also drill about 8-10 holes around the side of the dish about half way up for the zip ties , then zip tie the tube to the tray and tie a lanyard on it and your done . one note is to mark the tube with a wrap of colored electrical tape or paint to let you know where the valve stem on the tube is as that will set off your detector . so when you are done picking the treasure from the sifter you can tip it up to one side so every thing slides to the opposite side from the valve stem and then you can check it with your detector to make sure you didn't miss something , before you dump it out. i detect with mine all the time even if i dont need it , as it is a very handy emergency flotation device just in case . or if you want to take a rest just jump in it and float around , thats a sure way to get some looks at the beach. lol .
i built one of those 20" square schedule 40 - 4" pvc sifters a few years back and i used one time and that was it . it was heavy and cumbersome to transport . also i smacked my elbow into it about 20 times when it would drift up behind me and i was shoveling. and it was no where near as buoyant as the inner-tube type. it weighed about 15-20 pounds . my tube type one weighs about 3-4 pounds and i dont have to worry about laying it on top of any other gear while i am traveling . i will post a pic of it as soon as i get a chance .
Orlando Auction
Senior Member
Now thats dedication and ingenuity.
Nice work and great pics.
Nice work and great pics.
Billy
Senior Member
Looking forward to seeing your pic!
Nortonics
Elite Member
Barron, I like the way you're thinking! That's now on my "list"! Thanks for the suggestion!
D
DougWI
Titanic Scoop
I built mine using 4 1X6 pine boards 18" long glued & nailed together. I than applied a plastic mesh the same size as regular welded wire ( aprox 3/8" square openings). I than ran a rope thru a swimming noodle and tied the ends around the boards. Next i drilled holes to run a rope thru the boards and around the noodle. Allowing about 1 ½ “ under water when floated to help classify. I have since discarded the classifier and use only the Titanic Scoop while I water hunt. It has the classifier built right in.
I built mine using 4 1X6 pine boards 18" long glued & nailed together. I than applied a plastic mesh the same size as regular welded wire ( aprox 3/8" square openings). I than ran a rope thru a swimming noodle and tied the ends around the boards. Next i drilled holes to run a rope thru the boards and around the noodle. Allowing about 1 ½ “ under water when floated to help classify. I have since discarded the classifier and use only the Titanic Scoop while I water hunt. It has the classifier built right in.
wishooter
Elite Member
Thanks Baron of Junk,
I was Looking for one of those Plant Flats, to wrap PVC around it.
But, I'm looking out of season. Opted for the Mesh style instead.
Then I read your Post and the elbow thing struck my funny bone.
Your experience using both and your Review is really appreciated.
Doug that is a very unique Scoop pictured there.
I took my Tiger and Scoop out this Weekend, the weather was sooo nice.
That doubled loop handle is so versatile in digging and shaking.
My Tiger seemed to attack everything, and I dug it.
This water hunting is a new game.
Definitely harder than in the dirt.
Ankle deep with the RTG Scoop and the Cortes was minor.
General Cortes and I scored a Ring and a Buck knife this Weekend.
I wonder if he's getting jealous of my new beach babe "Tiger".
I was Looking for one of those Plant Flats, to wrap PVC around it.
But, I'm looking out of season. Opted for the Mesh style instead.
Then I read your Post and the elbow thing struck my funny bone.
Your experience using both and your Review is really appreciated.
Doug that is a very unique Scoop pictured there.
I took my Tiger and Scoop out this Weekend, the weather was sooo nice.
That doubled loop handle is so versatile in digging and shaking.
My Tiger seemed to attack everything, and I dug it.
This water hunting is a new game.
Definitely harder than in the dirt.
Ankle deep with the RTG Scoop and the Cortes was minor.
General Cortes and I scored a Ring and a Buck knife this Weekend.
I wonder if he's getting jealous of my new beach babe "Tiger".
THE BARON OF JUNK
New Member
Only one problem with most I see along with the shermenator. I don't use one because I most always dive BUT I was thinking of making one for when the water is too cold and I do wade.
If you make one out of pvc and the screen is in the middle, all you need to do is fill it get your goodies out and flip it and it is ready to use again. One that you can put coins in can't be flipped. One that has the tube and the bucket can be flipped but has to be flipped back to use again. It seems like making one you flip and it can be used both updide down and right side up would be the easiest. Just my two cents here!!
If you make one out of pvc and the screen is in the middle, all you need to do is fill it get your goodies out and flip it and it is ready to use again. One that you can put coins in can't be flipped. One that has the tube and the bucket can be flipped but has to be flipped back to use again. It seems like making one you flip and it can be used both updide down and right side up would be the easiest. Just my two cents here!!
Billy
Senior Member
I have pvc caps on the openings.
I have actually updated it today, heaps better, will be using it tomorrow on the beach, will post pics of it in action.
I have actually updated it today, heaps better, will be using it tomorrow on the beach, will post pics of it in action.
Junk.... your picture of your sifter would be a complete waste of time to me... I hunt beaches that are mud and clay and the holes on your sifter would not work for me.. so the PVC sifter is the correct one for me...
THE BARON OF JUNK
New Member
i also hunt beaches with mud and occasional clay and it works fine for me. i made the holes in mine smaller to catch those clamp sinkers and 22 slugs and shells , which i find on a regular basis . and they will just fall right through the mesh in the pvc sifters. which is a waste of time for me . you can always drill the holes bigger to your own preferences . but if you have your heart set on mesh , just cut out the bottom out of the feed dish and pop rivet in some mesh in the bottom . that way it will work like a pvc sifter but it will hold more weight without sinking and be about 4-5 times lighter than the pvc one. oh yeah and way cheaper .
