blacksambellamy
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going hunting today for revalutionary war graves that are said to be in a patch of woods by my house. An oldtimer told me about them. How would you search this site? what should i look for?
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Graves? I think its a bad idea.. I wouldn't go near a grave... Sorry I look down on this.
Lets see metal detectorist or a grave robber should make a nice newspaper article.
You asked...
Lets see metal detectorist or a grave robber should make a nice newspaper article.
You asked...
blacksambellamy
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searching the graveyard
There is nothing wrong with searching the graveyard. I am not digging up bodies i am searching for objects that fell from someones pockets. These graves are deep in the woods and here in NJ its just a matter of time before some contractor pays off the right people, digs them up and has them moved. I have seen this over and over (MONEY TALKS). I hope to scout it out today and take some pics. I will post them here.
There is nothing wrong with searching the graveyard. I am not digging up bodies i am searching for objects that fell from someones pockets. These graves are deep in the woods and here in NJ its just a matter of time before some contractor pays off the right people, digs them up and has them moved. I have seen this over and over (MONEY TALKS). I hope to scout it out today and take some pics. I will post them here.
Yes, we have a state park here with a graveyard in it from the early 1700s. I started day dreaming about what "treasures" I might find with a detector. Than I started thinking about respect. So I also say dont dig a gravyard, just my 2 cents 
blacksambellamy
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Went there a few hrs ago and spoke with some people in the area. Looks like they have been moved. I will check more tomorrow.
I respect all your opinions and do agree. But here in NJ i see no problem with it because big developers will just move them. So if they might move them then i certainly should search them first.
I respect all your opinions and do agree. But here in NJ i see no problem with it because big developers will just move them. So if they might move them then i certainly should search them first.
blacksambellamy said:
blacksambellamy
A number of years ago I came across a grave site in the woods near where I live in CT while walking my dog... I reported it to the historic society and I helped clean it up and fix some of the headstones....
I would suggest to you to contact a local historic society to possibly try and save it.
mccozro
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I agree with Craig off limits, there are strick laws concerning the grave sites and you should just go else where...i find it appaling and very disgraceful to even want to go in a old rev war grave yard as well as any other grave yard...Being a member of the Sons of the American Revolution we look down upon this im sure this place is recorded from the Hale documentation during the W.P.A PROJECTS....
YARDBYRD
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Wouldn't it though be just as disrespectful to MD in a modern Cemetery? Although you are not digging 6ft down and are in no way going to come close to a body......are you still not picking up change that was lost by folks mourning their loved ones? Just something to think about........Although the people from the Revolutionary and Civil wars or any other war demand our respect in this way, doesn't very grave site deserve the same? Just a question.... wanted to know what everyone thought.
Yard,
I'm against any hunting inside any cemetery... Sure you might find things near graves but who is to say their loved ones didn't place those little things near the graves... With all the places we have to detect we shouldn't have to even consider hunting in a cemetery.
We have covered this topic many times especially on the old board.
I'm against any hunting inside any cemetery... Sure you might find things near graves but who is to say their loved ones didn't place those little things near the graves... With all the places we have to detect we shouldn't have to even consider hunting in a cemetery.
We have covered this topic many times especially on the old board.
blacksambellamy
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Your right
Your right i dont need any problems so if i find the site i will take pics and thats all.
I have done much research on the 100 acres of land where these graves are said to be. Without doubt a major battle took place on and around the property. I will begin searching the property later this week (not the graves) i will post any finds here. I really cant believe how much action this area was exposed to. I believe i could hunt this land for the next 10 years and not cover it all.
Your right i dont need any problems so if i find the site i will take pics and thats all.
I have done much research on the 100 acres of land where these graves are said to be. Without doubt a major battle took place on and around the property. I will begin searching the property later this week (not the graves) i will post any finds here. I really cant believe how much action this area was exposed to. I believe i could hunt this land for the next 10 years and not cover it all.
mccozro
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I feel compelled to have to post another reply, that land is a place where people where buried and placed there for a reason, that was the ultimate sacrifice for there country, and to even think of going there to find relics is a crime, i do not know where the area is but i do know of several major battles took place, if there were soldiers buried there then leave it be, another thing they were not able to be buried by there family being killed in battle or even by disease. Prinecton, Monmouth, Fort Lee,Trenton, all major battles the places are state and national parks and extremly active in preservation. IF YOU WERE to locate a old iron grave marker that was placed there by the D.A.R and S.A.R mostly during the 1890's would you keep it....You would be much more of a hero if you were to contact the historical society or the state and bring this to there attention.
BillV
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My 2 cents worth........I think its taboo to hunt graveyards as well.
Keep in mind that these cemetaries were not usually built in the middle of nowhere although it may appear this way 200 years later. There will most likely be some great spots to detect in the vicinity. A little more research would be worth while.
Good Luck!
Keep in mind that these cemetaries were not usually built in the middle of nowhere although it may appear this way 200 years later. There will most likely be some great spots to detect in the vicinity. A little more research would be worth while.
Good Luck!
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zoyboy
I would hit that place hard, but not around the graves. Old walkways and fringe areas are fair game. Enough said!
bugguy
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I live next doot to a very nice old grave yard in NH dates back to 1760's. i used my hand held in there not to find items but to find the old metal millitary markers in which have been burried by the age of earth . i pull them to the top of the grass clean them and put them back in the grass in front of the grave so that people will know these people have died for there country and for the way of life we now have come accustom to. its not much but its something i can give back to those who have made it possible for myself and all of us to live in such a great country. its ashame the grounds keepers of these historic grave sites cant keep these markers cleaned . its like not showing them the respect they greatly deserve. and as far as hunting them, i would agree with you all stay out and find some where else to hunt. i will admit i had done several grave site hunts when i was a newbie but since the last forum site i have thought alot about it and your comments make sence both there and in here.
I did the same thing, BugGuy.
I found 17 of 'em, too... almost a foot deep.
I don't think the grounds keeper even thought of looking for lost markers with a metal detector (heck... maybe he even pushed them down himself with the lawnmower), but I'm glad I thought of it.
I got to talking to a fellow 'Nam vet at the VFW, about his grandfather's marker that disappeared from the little grave yard, and figured I'd see if it happened to go under the ground surface as opposed to being stolen.
I never got back to the guy, but if his grandfather's marker was lost by sinking underground, then I've done my job.
Oh... while I was at that cemetery that day, an old guy stopped his car to see what I was doing, and when I told him, an' pointed at the newly-dug markers, he hugged me. He knew right away that I was a vet 'cause it just so happens, I was wearin' my "colours" that day.
I found 17 of 'em, too... almost a foot deep.
I don't think the grounds keeper even thought of looking for lost markers with a metal detector (heck... maybe he even pushed them down himself with the lawnmower), but I'm glad I thought of it.
I got to talking to a fellow 'Nam vet at the VFW, about his grandfather's marker that disappeared from the little grave yard, and figured I'd see if it happened to go under the ground surface as opposed to being stolen.
I never got back to the guy, but if his grandfather's marker was lost by sinking underground, then I've done my job.
Oh... while I was at that cemetery that day, an old guy stopped his car to see what I was doing, and when I told him, an' pointed at the newly-dug markers, he hugged me. He knew right away that I was a vet 'cause it just so happens, I was wearin' my "colours" that day.
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ollievon
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First of all I must praise everyone that responded for showing the level of integrity and morals that makes this hobby what it is!
Grave yards have always been an automatic "hands off" for me, even if your imagination runs wild with what could be found of things simply dropped, but the whole "sacred ground" really does come into play.
Furthermore, there is NO difference between an old and new cemetary, it's a place that people are buried, period.
I would be mortified if someone caught me detecting in a graveyard, even if I had the best intentions.
As for hunting on the periphery, it's your call but don't be surprised if someone hassles you about. It's very touch stuff for sure.
If a church resides on the property and there is clearly defined land seperating the graveyard from the church, than it's ok by me to hunt the church land.
Remember, when you go out you don't just represent yourself...your represent all of us.
Good luck!
Grave yards have always been an automatic "hands off" for me, even if your imagination runs wild with what could be found of things simply dropped, but the whole "sacred ground" really does come into play.
Furthermore, there is NO difference between an old and new cemetary, it's a place that people are buried, period.
I would be mortified if someone caught me detecting in a graveyard, even if I had the best intentions.
As for hunting on the periphery, it's your call but don't be surprised if someone hassles you about. It's very touch stuff for sure.
If a church resides on the property and there is clearly defined land seperating the graveyard from the church, than it's ok by me to hunt the church land.
Remember, when you go out you don't just represent yourself...your represent all of us.
Good luck!
I think I should make this clear before I become the subject of evil.
The grounds keeper didn't know I'd been there (why should I bother with him? After all... he's just a "lawnmower man"), but the Postmaster did know 'cause he's the man I talked to about helping my vet bros.
Do a word search on this subject to see what my previous posts say... especially in the old forum!
The grounds keeper didn't know I'd been there (why should I bother with him? After all... he's just a "lawnmower man"), but the Postmaster did know 'cause he's the man I talked to about helping my vet bros.
Do a word search on this subject to see what my previous posts say... especially in the old forum!
bugguy
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Darn krom i thought i was being original!! just kidding. i havent found as many as you maybe 13 or 14 but hey they sure look pretty when there cleaned up and replaced. I myself have never been in the millitary i think growing up in an all millitary family turned me off to the idea. but just because i didnt serve dosent mean i dont respect the men and women who have given me the right to walk down the street with out haveing a gun in my face. i guess thats why i like to do the little things. it gives me my hobby time and gives back to the families whos loved ones should be honored. im glad to see you too have done this, josh the bugguy
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