OK Deus guys, school me!

[choppadude]

The Deus will be here tomorrow. I have read Andy's book several times as well as the owners manual. I believe I have a pretty good grasp on this machine but have not delved too mush into the "Expert" section yet.
My first of many questions:
I have the WS5 package arriving tomorrow. It has the WS5 headphones, Remote, and 11" coil.
I will also be ordering the Starter package this week which has the WS4 controller, wired headphones and 9" coil.
Now my question is, when I pair my 9" coil to the remote it will be under coil #2 as the original 11" is already paired with the unit as coil #1.
Now when I go to my WS4 controller that is already paired with the 9" coil and load the 11" coil into the unit as coil #2. No problem right? Well that is until I try to download any programs from my remote to the WS4 controller as it will want to also load in the coil options that have the 11" as #1 and the 9" as #2, the exact opposite of my WS4 controller.
I am thinking that I will need to delete the stock 9" coil from the WS4 controller and load the 11" as #1 and 9" as #2 to match the remote controller.
Confused yet? Me to LOL!

 

[Cherry Picker]

Yes. Here is a good video. Yes you can pair the 11" to the WS4 but I'd just leave it and pair the 11" & 9" to the controller and use it. Load up either the Basic 1 or Deus Fast and go to town. WS5's rock in my opinion.

 

[choppadude]

Yes. Here is a good video. Yes you can pair the 11" to the WS4 but I'd just leave it and pair the 11" & 9" to the controller and use it. Load up either the Basic 1 or Deus Fast and go to town. WS5's rock in my opinion.

Good info! Thanks!

 

[coin chaser]

Ok choppa. Bust that bad boy out and fire it up. Then take it back inside to the closet and grab your CTX.....

Just messing around but let me know how you like it. I've always been intrigued by them. I would love to take it and my CTX to a site and mess around with actual real targets. I must admit I'm a bit jealous man! Congrats on the new MD!

 

[Seven]

Ok choppa. Bust that bad boy out and fire it up. Then take it back inside to the closet and grab your CTX.....

Just messing around but let me know how you like it. I've always been intrigued by them. I would love to take it and my CTX to a site and mess around with actual real targets.

I would love to do the same Coin Chaser. I'm primarily a relic hunter and I'd like to have a hands-on comparison vs my CTX in the field. By the way, Choppadude, best of luck with the XP. Looking forward to posts of your finds and your feedback.

 

[ecoast]

yes; basic one will get you going, and you can notch up to clad to get started.

afa the 2nd setup; personally, you do not need the 9"; it does not gain you much with regard to separation; have had both, and kept the 11

wait for v4.0 and the new coil in a couple months while you get used to it, imho

also less to re-sell that way
if you end up going back to ctx

 

[choppadude]

yes; basic one will get you going, and you can notch up to clad to get started.

afa the 2nd setup; personally, you do not need the 9"; it does not gain you much with regard to separation; have had both, and kept the 11

wait for v4.0 and the new coil in a couple months while you get used to it, imho

also less to re-sell that way
if you end up going back to ctx

Thanks for the tips. I was thinking basic 1 to start and then maybe deus fast as Detector recommended. I picked up the 9" coil set up for a relic hunt that I have coming up in some heavily wooded area. Thought is might get into some tighter spots than the 11"

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Choppa,
Congrats on your purchase.

Deus fast program will do.

A suggestion

When you are running Deus fast consider doing the following.

Go ahead and build you some programs-- adjacent programs, you can toggle to
Like
0 disc full tones 18 kHz, relativity 2 silencer -1 sens 93, iron vol none

You do this when you hit a target--- you can switch to your full tones program and listen

One nice thing about Deus--- goes for factory programs as well as built and saved programs---- if you make changes while hunting--- just turn Deus off then back on-- you are back to factory program settings, as well as back to your previously saved settings.

Cheers

 

[tnsharpshooter]

I would love to do the same Coin Chaser. I'm primarily a relic hunter and I'd like to have a hands-on comparison vs my CTX in the field. By the way, Choppadude, best of luck with the XP. Looking forward to posts of your finds and your feedback.

Very simple Seven,,

Just holler-- I have 2 units, easy for you to see a comparison.

You can go on a hunt--- and we can do some tests-- simple test
And believe me-- in and heavier iron/nails-- will put a grin on your face.
Not to mention how forgiving the swing speed is and the overall weight.,

Want to really see how one performs, go to a site where you made some discoveries with CTX where the iron/ nails were thick/ heavy. Eye opening.
And I guarantee some of the finds-- impossible to distinguish as nonferrous with CTX-- been there and done that.

And the nice part,,since I have two complete Deus units.
You can run one, with headphones, and I can listen along while you sweep with another pair of headphones.

Makes for a quick and easy teaching/ learning situation.

 

[choppadude]

Choppa,
Congrats on your purchase.

Deus fast program will do.

A suggestion

When you are running Deus fast consider doing the following.

Go ahead and build you some programs-- adjacent programs, you can toggle to
Like
0 disc full tones 18 kHz, relativity 2 silencer -1 sens 93, iron vol none

You do this when you hit a target--- you can switch to your full tones program and listen

One nice thing about Deus--- goes for factory programs as well as built and saved programs---- if you make changes while hunting--- just turn Deus off then back on-- you are back to factory program settings, as well as back to your previously saved settings.

Cheers

OK I will build that program and stick it in slot #11. What would you consider the program for? coins? relics?
That is what I am talking about, getting a couple programs built that I can try and keep the ones I like and delete the ones I do not think I will use.
Also, what kind of sweep speeds am I using on this?
Just got used top the slow speed of the E trac/ CTX but I am thinking this is a bit faster sweep?

 

[tnsharpshooter]

OK I will build that program and stick it in slot #11. What would you consider the program for? coins? relics?
That is what I am talking about, getting a couple programs built that I can try and keep the ones I like and delete the ones I do not think I will use.
Also, what kind of sweep speeds am I using on this?
Just got used top the slow speed of the E trac/ CTX but I am thinking this is a bit faster sweep?

Very easy and fast to build a program-- once you learn what each setting does- it's affect
If the weather is not conducive to detecting --- by all means charge up your components--- play with the remote, learn how to navigate and where certain things lie in the menus/ submenus--- consider getting you a few targets so you can sweep, and play with tone settings etc,

The program settings I mention above--- extremely good for relics, especially sites loaded with nails/ iron

A good coin program is basic 2, with sens amped up a bit-- for a beginner of unit.

As long as you are running reactivity 2 or higher-- sweep speed extremely forgiving

Settings of 0 and 1 a little slower.

But when running say Deus fast or the program I suggested above--- in heavy iron/ nails--- slow down,,,,Deus will need some time to produce- separate/ unmask

I do not like to run with iron volume on; especially if I know I'm in the place I want to be in---- running iron volume on with say disc level 6 may be good for scouting--- to find maybe where an old house, structure stood.

I also recommend burying say a dime 9" deep- put the plug back on-- experiment

Deus is one of the best disturbed ground detectors I've come across-- doing some comparisons on this 9" deep dime, with settings changes-- very beneficial

Now you can do some air testing to familiarize yourself, but I should caution you here--- Deus will act differently when target is in ground--- depends on settings, depth, target size, ground minerals

Cheers.

 

[Seven]

Very simple Seven,,

Just holler-- I have 2 units, easy for you to see a comparison.

You can go on a hunt--- and we can do some tests-- simple test
And believe me-- in and heavier iron/nails-- will put a grin on your face.
Not to mention how forgiving the swing speed is and the overall weight.,

Want to really see how one performs, go to a site where you made some discoveries with CTX where the iron/ nails were thick/ heavy. Eye opening.
And I guarantee some of the finds-- impossible to distinguish as nonferrous with CTX-- been there and done that.

And the nice part,,since I have two complete Deus units.
You can run one, with headphones, and I can listen along while you sweep with another pair of headphones.

Makes for a quick and easy teaching/ learning situation.

Sounds like a plan. Lets hookup when the weather breaks.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Sounds like a plan. Lets hookup when the weather breaks.

Start thinking of a site.

We'll get together.

 

[Seven]

Start thinking of a site.

We'll get together.

Got the perfect spot; old house site on CW site. Filled with nails and iron. I pulled breast plate, bullets, toe plates, and several eagle buttons from this spot, but it is painfully slow hunting. My last two times hunting this little spot (about 50 feet square) I pulled zero keepers. Be a perfect test site.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

Got the perfect spot; old house site on CW site. Filled with nails and iron. I pulled breast plate, bullets, toe plates, and several eagle buttons from this spot, but it is painfully slow hunting. My last two times hunting this little spot (about 50 feet square) I pulled zero keepers. Be a perfect test site.

Sounds like a winner.

Will bring Racer with small coil along as well.

Should prove interesting....

 

[choppadude]

Choppa,
Congrats on your purchase.

Deus fast program will do.

A suggestion

When you are running Deus fast consider doing the following.

Go ahead and build you some programs-- adjacent programs, you can toggle to
Like
0 disc full tones 18 kHz, relativity 2 silencer -1 sens 93, iron vol none

You do this when you hit a target--- you can switch to your full tones program and listen

One nice thing about Deus--- goes for factory programs as well as built and saved programs---- if you make changes while hunting--- just turn Deus off then back on-- you are back to factory program settings, as well as back to your previously saved settings.

Cheers

So can I start with the Deus fast program then edit that with your suggested settings and save to a open slot? The unit will still retain the original Deus Fast program in factory settings correct?

 

[tnsharpshooter]

So can I start with the Deus fast program then edit that with your suggested settings and save to a open slot? The unit will still retain the original Deus Fast program in factory settings correct?

Yes, Deus factory programs always remain intact.
True you can turn Deus on and select factory program, and continue to use, sweeping/ hunting--- and make changes to settings ( within factory programs) for your hunt.

But if you turn off your Deus all factory programs return to default settings.

And for the programs you save--- the same applies,,,meaning you can deviate from your saved settings within your saved program--- turn off Deus, previous saved settings in previous saved program back to how you had them set in the first place.

This can be aggravating a bit at first-- but once you are more familiar -- not a problem.

I could for example -- if I visited you tomorrow with you and your new unit-- I could take it and in about 45 seconds to 1 minute---- have it set to hunt like I would want setting wise.

Not as complicated as one thinks-- trust me. You will take off with it Choppa in no time.

Adjusting or setting up for all metal hunting-- takes longer.

 

[choppadude]

Yes, Deus factory programs always remain intact.
True you can turn Deus on and select factory program, and continue to use, sweeping/ hunting--- and make changes to settings ( within factory programs) for your hunt.

But if you turn off your Deus all factory programs return to default settings.

And for the programs you save--- the same applies,,,meaning you can deviate from your saved settings within your saved program--- turn off Deus, previous saved settings in previous saved program back to how you had them set in the first place.

This can be aggravating a bit at first-- but once you are more familiar -- not a problem.

I could for example -- if I visited you tomorrow with you and your new unit-- I could take it and in about 45 seconds to 1 minute---- have it set to hunt like I would want setting wise.

Not as complicated as one thinks-- trust me. You will take off with it Choppa in no time.

Adjusting or setting up for all metal hunting-- takes longer.

So if I create a program and save it and then later make changes to that program I will need to save it again and just put it in the same slot to overwrite the old program I made? If not it will just change all settings back to my original program after powering down the unit, correct?

 

[ecoast]

correct.

 

[tnsharpshooter]

If you save a program, then one day make changes, and wish to save the latter changes--- you can save by rewriting over previous program by either using same name,,, or saving to a new slot--- as long as you have a slot available.

This may sound funny,,,how many programs do you think I have on each of my units???? 2 on each unit is all.

The reason is--- just so easy to set up when approaching a site--- of course I let the site, the site's detecting history, how I have hunted site before ( detector settings) drive which route I go setting wise.

Choppa, something else I think you'll notice. On your new unit you purhased-- all the components will have same serial number,,,this will help you keep them straight.

Which brings me to this--- consider unpairing your coil(s) and repairing them,,
Using both control and headphone modules.

It is not hard to do-- I have not needed to do in the field--- but knowing how to do in the field--- could save the day.

I would not let my units stay on charge-- when they are charged--- disconnect
I would also check my backlight setting-- could be on-- you have some options with it,,,, time delay wise.
You have a pair of premiere relic machines-- no doubt
And the audio-- refreshing..

Almost forgot-- your new or used units you purhchased-- look at your manuals
There is a chance for example --- even though the units contain version 3.2,,,
Your manuals may indicate lower version updates on cover-- so some things in your manual will be outdated or not up do date
Not a biggie as long as you are aware

For instance if your Deus manual has 2.0 on the cover-- inside that particular manual it will not have or show the use of full tones-- since it was added with later version update.

Xp website does reflect this in places.

http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/xp-deus-version-3-features

http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/blog/deus-version-3-1-update-now-available/


This is probably the best link with info on xp Deus I know of. New users, old users take note
http://www.metaldetectingworld.com/xp_deus_settings_explained.shtml