ghound
Elite Member
I'd guess as you've only been detecting a couple of months it's quite possible that it's user error.
What settings are you using?
What settings are you using?
NOX - negative reviews, problems and complaints
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medicchief
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I know your pain all too well. The next time we go out I'll see if I can help you with your settings. They have inherent issues, such as pinpointing and depth indication. Like during our hunt when my Delta showed the memorial penny at <inch (true depth) and your 800 showing it at 4 inches. The machine can be very frustrating, but patience is key with a NOX.....a lot of it! May I also suggest making yourself a test garden, with numerous targets at a known depth. It's a great learning tool!
Ron 71
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I think your swing speed could have something to do with it, I notice that when I'm heading back to the car to leave a spot I start swinging a bit faster and I see the same thing. A dime or quarter signal that I can't locate when I slow down. I think the multi freq is trying to identify too many targets too fast and throws out a generalized target I.D It never happens to me when I'm going along nice and slow. Also sens. may be a bit too high causing some of the falseing, Some spots I hunt I can run the sens. high, other places I have to lower it considerably.
vegasplayer
Senior Member
are you all sure it us not the user of the machine ??????
3030 ctx here a real machine
takes the cost of 3 of the nox to = 1 3030
maybe you should buy a bounty hunter
3030 ctx here a real machine
takes the cost of 3 of the nox to = 1 3030
maybe you should buy a bounty hunter
beachclad
Full Member
I was over a patch of wet sand today and I kept hearing tones but no target ID. Why does this happen? You hear the bloop, bloop tones and there's no ID displayed. I'm using wired headphones.
I also dug a corroded zinc today at 15-16. That's a huge 40% difference between 15 and the normal signal for a penny at 21. That's the downside of having a non-iron range only between 1-40 vs. 30-99. A corroded zinc on a 30-99 machine registers around 69-70 vs. a normal penny at 77-79. That's a difference of only ~13%. I dig tons of pennies, so I know this well. On my old 30-99 detector, I could tell with 99% accuracy if it was a penny. On the Nox I have no clue. It's basically a beep and dig.
I also dug a corroded zinc today at 15-16. That's a huge 40% difference between 15 and the normal signal for a penny at 21. That's the downside of having a non-iron range only between 1-40 vs. 30-99. A corroded zinc on a 30-99 machine registers around 69-70 vs. a normal penny at 77-79. That's a difference of only ~13%. I dig tons of pennies, so I know this well. On my old 30-99 detector, I could tell with 99% accuracy if it was a penny. On the Nox I have no clue. It's basically a beep and dig.
So the Nox works great even for people who can't follow simple directions?
ghound
Elite Member
So the Nox works great even for people who can't follow simple directions?
An OP's rules aren't forum rules, and with detectors you don't need simple directions when you have experience, but i wouldn't expect a newbie like yourself to understand that yet
An OP's rules aren't forum rules, and with detectors you don't need simple directions when you have experience, but i wouldn't expect a newbie like yourself to understand that yet
Now, now, don't be upset. I just thought it was funny in your rush to promote the NOX you either didn't read or ignored what the OP had asked. Not accusing you of a forums rules violation. LOL Just generally bad manners to ignore such an OP request.
I love my Equinox 600 and 800, but the original shafts are inadequate for such a good detector as is the armrest. If Minelab was trying to cut corners for weight and help ergonomics with these two aspects of their design, they failed miserably. If they were trying to cut costs to increase profitability, they succeeded stupendously. I would have preferred to pay a little more for better quality factory designed collapsable shafts and a quality armrest. Maybe if this detector was better balanced from these two design faults the handgrip would not be quite as uncomfortable. Otherwise, incredible detector!!!!!
Jeff
Jeff
beachclad
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CarsonChris
Elite Member
My main complaint is the VDI is all over the place.
ghound
Elite Member
Compared to what?
woodbutcher
Forum Supporter
I agree The visual ID on the equinox is not for cherry picking.The tone on the equinox leaves no doubt there is a coin there though. Some guys like a more stable spread out visual ID,I’m one of those guys..But we can’t have it all,gotta pick and choose.
The at max visual ID from my experience is not very stable either..The At pro on the other hand is rock solid,at least to me it is.
beachclad
Full Member
Compared to an AT Pro, the Equinox isn't as accurate with coins. I've dug pennies as low as 16 with the Equinox and as high as 24. The ID becomes more accurate once the coil is closer, or at a different angle, but that's a huge variance if the coin is deep. That's the downside of having only 40 non-ferrous IDs as opposed to 70 with Garrett. I have no confidence anymore if the target is a coin or not before I dig unless it's a quarter.
That's not a big deal if you plan on digging everything, which is something I'm trying to do, but it was nice to go coin-shooting with the Garrett on the walk back home after a hunt. Now I can't really do that because if I get an 18-19 signal, for example, I'm not sure what it is.
yooper69
Elite Member
I agree on the vdi being jumpy but tones is the way to go with the nox. I had a 3 hour hunt today and all but maybe 2 of the 9 silver coin's I dug were jumpy but there was no doubt with the tones that there was silver in the hole.
medicchief
Forum Supporter
Some machines are better than others at identifying targets, have greater depth. Great ergonomics, poor ergonomics. But the bottom line is, if we're looking for something of value we pretty much dig everything but iron anyway. So, we separate Fe from Co, then we dig. Relic hunters may dig it all. Sometimes we're lucky, sometimes we're not. Sometimes we have buyers remorse, sometimes we don't.....previous NOX 800 owner.
I am not a expert on this detector but this is the first super fast muti unit that has come out there is nothing out there to compare it to .
So this is my thoughts the machine is fast as you go over the target it is taking a snap shot of the target and resetting for the next snap shot in that time it may take 4 or 5 snap shots of the target before you clear it now the coin is getting farther away from center it's taking that snap shot directly over the target and on both sides well the #s are going to change and the audio unless the bin has accepted #s both sides there by keeping the tone the same .If the bin is tighter then the audio well change also .
This is happing because this is a fast mutifreaker the first one maybe this is to be expected.
Now the ctx is a slow mutifreaker taking less snap shots of the target so the id should be better and then again if we had a slower mutifreaker it would only take one snap shot over the target giving even a better id .
My main problem with the machine is the bunched ids at 19 where pulltabs read 19 but the same pull-tab on the ctx reads 12.29 to 12.32 which is out of the indian range except for fattys but the nox reads it as a indian other than that I don't care what the id is I will dig it if 20 or above when coin hunting.
Now the depth gauge being off don't have a clue if pinpoint is using muti maybe that's whats happing here to just a guess . sube
So this is my thoughts the machine is fast as you go over the target it is taking a snap shot of the target and resetting for the next snap shot in that time it may take 4 or 5 snap shots of the target before you clear it now the coin is getting farther away from center it's taking that snap shot directly over the target and on both sides well the #s are going to change and the audio unless the bin has accepted #s both sides there by keeping the tone the same .If the bin is tighter then the audio well change also .
This is happing because this is a fast mutifreaker the first one maybe this is to be expected.
Now the ctx is a slow mutifreaker taking less snap shots of the target so the id should be better and then again if we had a slower mutifreaker it would only take one snap shot over the target giving even a better id .
My main problem with the machine is the bunched ids at 19 where pulltabs read 19 but the same pull-tab on the ctx reads 12.29 to 12.32 which is out of the indian range except for fattys but the nox reads it as a indian other than that I don't care what the id is I will dig it if 20 or above when coin hunting.
Now the depth gauge being off don't have a clue if pinpoint is using muti maybe that's whats happing here to just a guess . sube
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ghound
Elite Member
ghound
Elite Member
The Nox doesn't do the snap shot, it has open gate audio, so it blends between targets.
Imagine how jumpy the ID's would be if the Equinox had 100 ID's numbers, like many machines, instead of only 50.
That's probably why they cut the number of ID's in half. To make it "seem" more stable.
And, if the ID's don't matter to you, why not just use a beep-and-dig?
