Actually my thoughts a site littered with iron park 2 field 2.
Sites littered with modern trash, park 1 field 1 and park 2.
Littered with both and can only hunt one time- Park 2.
My Equinox 800 Take (Tests and Commentary)
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Actually my thoughts a site littered with iron park 2 field 2.
Sites littered with modern trash, park 1 field 1 and park 2.
Littered with both and can only hunt one time- Park 2.
Time for another test.
Beach hunters, some out of the box thinking just might pay off in places.
Meaning Beach modes could prove less useful vs say a land detect mode like park 1.
A pic here.
You see in the pic a 14k men's big gold wedding band. And 2 pieces of foil sitting above.
Now a Equinox user may indeed try and dig the say ring vdi range targets and not the foil range where smaller gold and chains likely will fall.
Park 1 is the clear winner here letting me know ring range ID target exists.
Also realize this is a big gold ring, if a smaller gold ring was placed in equation here, the masking effects would,ve even more tremendous hence using other modes besides park 1, the gold ring even more compromised in being able to tell its existence via ID and tone. Field 2 here does pretty good too.
So a person could decide to dig ID range 9 and higher say to 19 targets in search of gold rings. Polluted spot some other detectorist - even an uneducated Equinox Runner may indeed hit similar scenario in the wild and pass thinking foil or other junk smaller lower conductive target.
The thinking here is smaller foil could mask a gold ring and make it look like somewhat bigger foil (fooling a person) using some of the modes. Park 1 clearly give advantage here. This could also be seen/applied in a park situation too.
Just thought I would share.
Beach hunters, some out of the box thinking just might pay off in places.
Meaning Beach modes could prove less useful vs say a land detect mode like park 1.
A pic here.
You see in the pic a 14k men's big gold wedding band. And 2 pieces of foil sitting above.
Now a Equinox user may indeed try and dig the say ring vdi range targets and not the foil range where smaller gold and chains likely will fall.
Park 1 is the clear winner here letting me know ring range ID target exists.
Also realize this is a big gold ring, if a smaller gold ring was placed in equation here, the masking effects would,ve even more tremendous hence using other modes besides park 1, the gold ring even more compromised in being able to tell its existence via ID and tone. Field 2 here does pretty good too.
So a person could decide to dig ID range 9 and higher say to 19 targets in search of gold rings. Polluted spot some other detectorist - even an uneducated Equinox Runner may indeed hit similar scenario in the wild and pass thinking foil or other junk smaller lower conductive target.
The thinking here is smaller foil could mask a gold ring and make it look like somewhat bigger foil (fooling a person) using some of the modes. Park 1 clearly give advantage here. This could also be seen/applied in a park situation too.
Just thought I would share.
DaviDs
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts...
I look forward to trying this test at our salt water beaches. FWIW, in the saturated wet sand in NE-Florida, the park mode was unstable. To utilize the park mode, we had to travel away from shore to the high tide line where the sand was just moist enough to see a color change but not quite white and dry.
Seems CTX and Excal machines may still have the edge when hunting in wet, salt sand.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts...
FWIW, in the saturated wet sand in NE-Florida, the park mode was unstable. To utilize the park mode, we had to travel away from shore to the high tide line where the sand was just moist enough to see a color change but not quite white and dry.
Seems CTX and Excal machines may still have the edge when hunting in wet, salt sand.
Oh yeah, I don't doubt it. I sure wasn't talking of wet salt water sand. Fresh water beaches, really. I think we will be surprised what comes out of them using Nox. Heck I have even started hunting fresh water beaches.
Some info from a freshwater beach hunt late this afternoon. I will leave any discussions as fas as Nox and salt water beach to someone else. I don't do.
Anyway I found a few things, nothing of real value.
Ran a lot of different detect modes when hunting and did a few comparisons over targets before digging.
This pic here, found this small whatever, clad dime in pic for scale.
Located this tiny target using beach 1 mode Sens at 24 speed 6.
Don't know how deep it actually was, other than it wouldn't deep.
ID as 1 in the meter with pretty good tone.
Had to pit this little whatever in a small plastic bag pronto so I wouldn't lose.
After getting back home I did a test comparing the detect modes airtest. (Not all)
Not real technical distance wise. But just to see which mode(s) would strike it better.
I left in small plastic bag and placed a 2x4 on bag to secure due to the wind. So I Was sweeping at least a 2x4 thinkness above this whatever when sweeping- testing.
Park 1 - fail
Field 1- fail
Park 2 - good signal
Field 2 - decent signal
Beach 1- fail
Beach 2- didn't check
Gold 1- pass and gave best signal and most coil height afforded and detect.
Gold 2- didn't check
My freshwater beach detecting time career wise very limited.
But I think I can fairly say, park 2 will get you deeper than beach 1 will.
And park 2 not shabby either on smaller lower conductors.
Gold 1 mode, you use that one, hold on you are in for a ride, if there is any small foil, minute bits of foil around. A user can be a sleep at the switch more so using gold 1 and strike smaller nonferrous.
I did check some of the targets providing 1 as ID using park 1 with disc dialed back to 0. Many times it wouldn't even give a signal, but park 2 would lots of times.
My experience at the freshwater beach today, I went there knowing a whole lot more about Equinox than my last visit.
Amazing to see a 11" coil hit this small stuff.
Did dig a few square tabs one at 10.5", and one at Garrett propointer length deep plus add safely 2" at least. Was running Sens at 24 the whole time, Equinox purred.
Anyway I found a few things, nothing of real value.
Ran a lot of different detect modes when hunting and did a few comparisons over targets before digging.
This pic here, found this small whatever, clad dime in pic for scale.
Located this tiny target using beach 1 mode Sens at 24 speed 6.
Don't know how deep it actually was, other than it wouldn't deep.
ID as 1 in the meter with pretty good tone.
Had to pit this little whatever in a small plastic bag pronto so I wouldn't lose.
After getting back home I did a test comparing the detect modes airtest. (Not all)
Not real technical distance wise. But just to see which mode(s) would strike it better.
I left in small plastic bag and placed a 2x4 on bag to secure due to the wind. So I Was sweeping at least a 2x4 thinkness above this whatever when sweeping- testing.
Park 1 - fail
Field 1- fail
Park 2 - good signal
Field 2 - decent signal
Beach 1- fail
Beach 2- didn't check
Gold 1- pass and gave best signal and most coil height afforded and detect.
Gold 2- didn't check
My freshwater beach detecting time career wise very limited.
But I think I can fairly say, park 2 will get you deeper than beach 1 will.
And park 2 not shabby either on smaller lower conductors.
Gold 1 mode, you use that one, hold on you are in for a ride, if there is any small foil, minute bits of foil around. A user can be a sleep at the switch more so using gold 1 and strike smaller nonferrous.
I did check some of the targets providing 1 as ID using park 1 with disc dialed back to 0. Many times it wouldn't even give a signal, but park 2 would lots of times.
My experience at the freshwater beach today, I went there knowing a whole lot more about Equinox than my last visit.
Amazing to see a 11" coil hit this small stuff.
Did dig a few square tabs one at 10.5", and one at Garrett propointer length deep plus add safely 2" at least. Was running Sens at 24 the whole time, Equinox purred.
Alright here a pic with a power pack installed on Nox.
I went to Wally World and bought the strips- note the container they came in.
This power pack is rated 6000 mAH, not very heavy.
Person could use a bigger rated.
I have two 6000 and two10,000 MaH rated.
A person with small arms can actually use pack on top of the cuff too.
The velcro strips allow you to secure with some pressure too, so the pack ain't going anywhere.
In wetter conditions since the pack doesn't have a lot of clearance under, mounting on to of cuff would be a work around.
I have used my Nox with pack in top of cuff loads.
Either setup allow for quick pack changes in the field if need be.
And by using the pack, your internal detector's battery service life overall will be extended somewhat.
Will post a pic here with pack mounted on top of cuff, but this pic shows the pack taped rather than using Velcro.
I have used the Velcro strips and both ways of mounting work well.
A user gets to monitor occasionally their pack's power level too.
I went to Wally World and bought the strips- note the container they came in.
This power pack is rated 6000 mAH, not very heavy.
Person could use a bigger rated.
I have two 6000 and two10,000 MaH rated.
A person with small arms can actually use pack on top of the cuff too.
The velcro strips allow you to secure with some pressure too, so the pack ain't going anywhere.
In wetter conditions since the pack doesn't have a lot of clearance under, mounting on to of cuff would be a work around.
I have used my Nox with pack in top of cuff loads.
Either setup allow for quick pack changes in the field if need be.
And by using the pack, your internal detector's battery service life overall will be extended somewhat.
Will post a pic here with pack mounted on top of cuff, but this pic shows the pack taped rather than using Velcro.
I have used the Velcro strips and both ways of mounting work well.
A user gets to monitor occasionally their pack's power level too.
Ok I have a question regarding chatter.
I was lucky enough to purchase an 800 from a fellow site member and it arrived today. I put the machine together, read through the manual again and powered it up.
My issue is the chatter from the machine is insane. Noise cancellation does nothing to stop it. What are people using for sensitivity in general? I turned it down quite a bit but still not much help.
Tomorrow I'm going to drive around to various sites to see if it changes. I didn't have a phone since I saw that was causing an issue for people.
IF I can't figure it out, I will see if I can upload a video so people can see it.
Also possible I'm a moron and just missing a step somewhere in the setup.
I was lucky enough to purchase an 800 from a fellow site member and it arrived today. I put the machine together, read through the manual again and powered it up.
My issue is the chatter from the machine is insane. Noise cancellation does nothing to stop it. What are people using for sensitivity in general? I turned it down quite a bit but still not much help.
Tomorrow I'm going to drive around to various sites to see if it changes. I didn't have a phone since I saw that was causing an issue for people.
IF I can't figure it out, I will see if I can upload a video so people can see it.
Also possible I'm a moron and just missing a step somewhere in the setup.
I have run my 800 model in park 2 and beach 1 programs under high tension power lines at sens 22 and detecfor was smooth.
And have done this in 3 different places.
Lot so places I run 23 and 24 sensitivity in the rural areas.
JackalopeZL1
Elite Member
Gigmaster posted a video of his cell phone driving the machine nuts. Find the device doing it and your noise will probably go away.
ohiochris
Elite Member
Cell phones can do this.....OR......
I have a problem in my front yard with mine , too much wifi in the area on a specific channel. I use the noise cancel feature and lower the sensitivity 4 or 5 points and it quiets down well.
Cherry Picker
Forum Supporter
I believe I had the sensitivity up pretty high last. I was out in a field relic hunting and you can crank it up with little noise. Check the sensitivity I think around 80 on Park 1 was nice and quiet for me.
Also try turning off your cell just to check. Mine never caused any problems but I hear they can.
Also try turning off your cell just to check. Mine never caused any problems but I hear they can.
Be hard to dial sensitivity up to 80 on a Nox, at least mine. Only goes to level 25 from what I can tell.
I have generally had fewer problems with chatter on the Equinox than with my Etrac. If the problem persists, it may be a bad unit. Have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting the coil? Doing a factory reset?
Coin Operated
Senior Member
Can't wait to test mine IF I EVER GET IT !!!!!!!
cobb05
Full Member
Time for another test.
Beach hunters, some out of the box thinking just might pay off in places.
Meaning Beach modes could prove less useful vs say a land detect mode like park 1.
A pic here.
You see in the pic a 14k men's big gold wedding band. And 2 pieces of foil sitting above.
Now a Equinox user may indeed try and dig the say ring vdi range targets and not the foil range where smaller gold and chains likely will fall.
Park 1 is the clear winner here letting me know ring range ID target exists.
Also realize this is a big gold ring, if a smaller gold ring was placed in equation here, the masking effects would,ve even more tremendous hence using other modes besides park 1, the gold ring even more compromised in being able to tell its existence via ID and tone. Field 2 here does pretty good too.
So a person could decide to dig ID range 9 and higher say to 19 targets in search of gold rings. Polluted spot some other detectorist - even an uneducated Equinox Runner may indeed hit similar scenario in the wild and pass thinking foil or other junk smaller lower conductive target.
The thinking here is smaller foil could mask a gold ring and make it look like somewhat bigger foil (fooling a person) using some of the modes. Park 1 clearly give advantage here. This could also be seen/applied in a park situation too.
Just thought I would share.
My wife's wedding ring is a really narrow small band so it only reads 7 as is! Im curious how low signals are most of you digging if just out coin and jewelry hunting?
Good question.
For ring hunting Inwould be digging 7-19 ID reading signals. Realizing bigger men's ring would come in on the higher end here. Since more women wore more jewelry actually, rings being smaller than me 's on average, a persons could just dig 7-14 reading signals. This way you are still digging nickels, rings, and maybe even a gold coin.
So it's up to the detectorists what they decide.
No absolutes, except Nox loves gold rings and nickels.
Equinox to me loves nickels. And it loves them too in already hard hunted sites with iron and modern trash.
So I did a test just to see.
A pic.
Not a complicated test.
You see US nickel, look tucked in under left 2x4, you'll see some foil. Windy here today so Imhad to hold it down by placing 2x4 block on top of. Also notice the nail suspected above Nicole plane some and off to the right,
Swinging coil over over top of blocks (coil height).
Nox park 2 speed 7 bust this nickel. With ID. 13 in the window. Hover sweeps yield 12/13 in the window.
I checked Etrac with stock coil. On your best day of you caught it just right you might dig. But most sweeps this nickel is all over the place. Like conductive number 11, 12, 14, 15, and even 16. Even saw a few 18s. Really hit and miss. And if you try doing what I call hover sweeps you are basically SOL, no way in the world to tell nickel exist. Tried some different settings too.
I checked Deus wearing 9" and 11" LF coils. Both coils a user is SOL. No way to judge a nickel is lurking.
Nokta Impact wearing stock coil. Same thing SOL, no way to tell nickel exist. It reads like 15 points over what a nickel reads. Deus does too.
Rutus alter 71, again SOL, no way to judge a nickel is lurking.
All the detectors above I tried differ t freqs and settings.
This may be a big part of the reason why so many nickels are being had by Equinox. They are being left behind in sites by folks using other detectors.
Thought I would share.
Additionally I have been checking coin signals located with Equinox and comparing Etrac. In sites I had pounded previously using Etrac and CTX. Sure thing high percentage of these coins undetectable by Etrac.
Found a clad dime this morning in a site. I know I have swung every detecfor with stock coil I have owned but 2. Chaser unit and warrior unit. Etrac this morning no dice. Clad dime a mere 2" deep.
Absolutely shocking.
Equinox was banging the dime and giving ID 26 in the window.
I felt like a fool. Dug a 6" deep plug. And turns out the dang dime was in the top of the plug.
All my house sites since getting Equinox and using have produced coins but 1. Gent took about 4" dirt off the front yard a couple years ago. Could be reason why.
So I did a test just to see.
A pic.
Not a complicated test.
You see US nickel, look tucked in under left 2x4, you'll see some foil. Windy here today so Imhad to hold it down by placing 2x4 block on top of. Also notice the nail suspected above Nicole plane some and off to the right,
Swinging coil over over top of blocks (coil height).
Nox park 2 speed 7 bust this nickel. With ID. 13 in the window. Hover sweeps yield 12/13 in the window.
I checked Etrac with stock coil. On your best day of you caught it just right you might dig. But most sweeps this nickel is all over the place. Like conductive number 11, 12, 14, 15, and even 16. Even saw a few 18s. Really hit and miss. And if you try doing what I call hover sweeps you are basically SOL, no way in the world to tell nickel exist. Tried some different settings too.
I checked Deus wearing 9" and 11" LF coils. Both coils a user is SOL. No way to judge a nickel is lurking.
Nokta Impact wearing stock coil. Same thing SOL, no way to tell nickel exist. It reads like 15 points over what a nickel reads. Deus does too.
Rutus alter 71, again SOL, no way to judge a nickel is lurking.
All the detectors above I tried differ t freqs and settings.
This may be a big part of the reason why so many nickels are being had by Equinox. They are being left behind in sites by folks using other detectors.
Thought I would share.
Additionally I have been checking coin signals located with Equinox and comparing Etrac. In sites I had pounded previously using Etrac and CTX. Sure thing high percentage of these coins undetectable by Etrac.
Found a clad dime this morning in a site. I know I have swung every detecfor with stock coil I have owned but 2. Chaser unit and warrior unit. Etrac this morning no dice. Clad dime a mere 2" deep.
Absolutely shocking.
Equinox was banging the dime and giving ID 26 in the window.
I felt like a fool. Dug a 6" deep plug. And turns out the dang dime was in the top of the plug.
All my house sites since getting Equinox and using have produced coins but 1. Gent took about 4" dirt off the front yard a couple years ago. Could be reason why.
Rattlehead
Forum Supporter
Nox definitely loves some nickels. I went to a park today just to hear a nice variety of targets including modern trash and dug so many nickels I got tired of digging them.
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After using Etrac and CTX and Equinox.
It is my opinion, users of Etrac and CTX could dismiss bigger coins like half dollars and silver dollars as cans moreso vs using Equinox.
It is my opinion, users of Etrac and CTX could dismiss bigger coins like half dollars and silver dollars as cans moreso vs using Equinox.
Another first for me today using Nox.
Old house site. Has been dirt moved around back about 37 years ago. I hunt used a lot of detectors here wearing stock coil 10dd and 11dd and one 9" DD coil on Deus. I have never found the first coin in this site. Until today got a 1923 wheat head.
Also up by my mothers sidewalk, swing every clf detecfor O have ever owned with stock coils, and even some ones. Tagged a copper cent. Going to AM showed loads of iron and nails surrounding coin.
Coin might have been 1.5" deep. Shocking.
Just amazing what the Nox sees, with even 11 DD coil.
Park 2 speed 7 used good ID in the window on both coins.
I have no doubt the coin beside sidewalk was seen before and provided tone, on at least Deus. Problem is it didn't give me clue of higher conductor.
And lot of my testing suggest this too.
Old house site. Has been dirt moved around back about 37 years ago. I hunt used a lot of detectors here wearing stock coil 10dd and 11dd and one 9" DD coil on Deus. I have never found the first coin in this site. Until today got a 1923 wheat head.
Also up by my mothers sidewalk, swing every clf detecfor O have ever owned with stock coils, and even some ones. Tagged a copper cent. Going to AM showed loads of iron and nails surrounding coin.
Coin might have been 1.5" deep. Shocking.
Just amazing what the Nox sees, with even 11 DD coil.
Park 2 speed 7 used good ID in the window on both coins.
I have no doubt the coin beside sidewalk was seen before and provided tone, on at least Deus. Problem is it didn't give me clue of higher conductor.
And lot of my testing suggest this too.
