More poking into your life, by the Book of Face

[Gauntlet]

I've never used Facebook, and I'm probably too old to start. But if anyone is curious, I had Bob Evans breakfast burritos for breakfast this morning, and I usually wear white socks.

-- Tom

OGM.....WHERE"S THE LIKE BUTTON!!!!!!

 

[Gauntlet]

LOL can't stop the future so might as well embrace it.

You're correct on the 1st part, but I certainly don't intend to embrace it, or do anything else to assist it along. Knowing where the world was headed was the biggest deciding factor in my never wanting to have kids.

I get my TV from an antenna (had satellite for 1 year, 20 years ago), don't own a smart phone (talk/text only), and this site is the only social media I belong to.

Fill your house with Google and Amazon stuff, I prefer what little privacy a person is still entitled to. I believe it was earlier this year when a murder case in Texas was using Alexa transcripts in the case.....I could be wrong, running off memory

 

[MrNovice]

Fill your house with Google and Amazon stuff, I prefer what little privacy a person is still entitled to. I believe it was earlier this year when a murder case in Texas was using Alexa transcripts in the case.....I could be wrong, running off memory

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...a-bentonville-arkansas-murder-case/index.html

 

[Gauntlet]

Thanks! It was "Echo", not Alexa.

Makes one wonder, why exactly are they saving recordings of your conversations in your own home? To use against you at a later date.....when the Book of Face sends SWAT to your home because their AI deemed you "dangerous".

 

[MrNovice]

Thanks! It was "Echo", not Alexa.

Makes one wonder, why exactly are they saving recordings of your conversations in your own home? To use against you at a later date.....when the Book of Face sends SWAT to your home because their AI deemed you "dangerous".

They say they use it for advertising purposes, but I'm sure it's not the only reason. Think how easy it would be for them to blackmail someone.

Never-ever voluntarily, would I have thought someone would invite something or someone in to spy into their private homes or conversations...let alone be persuaded to buy one.

 

[Gauntlet]

They say they use it for advertising purposes, but I'm sure it's not the only reason. Think how easy it would be for them to blackmail someone.

They also said that artificial sweeteners were safe, WMDs were in Iraq and Anna Nicole married for love.

Never-ever voluntarily, would I have thought someone would invite something or someone in to spy into their private homes or conversations...let alone be persuaded to buy one.

Ditto, just shows people no longer care, or expect any privacy of life. Did you hear about FB wanting people to send them unclothed pics of themselves, to prevent people from posting unclothed pics of them?

I use gmail (Google), and about once a week I send an email to myself, with a message for Google

 

[Cherry Picker]

Well I'd like to say I know where you're coming from, but I't would just be a lie. If you think by avoiding these new technologies you're living "off the grid" I got bad news. All you're doing is sticking your head in the sand while everyone else can see you. That is why I say you might as well embrace it because it, technology, already has you under surveillance. Personally I want to know what they know about me rather then think I'm in hiding. Not that I like it any better than you do, but I happen to live in a world where the reality of what is out there I know and understand.

Knowing and understanding what and how my privacy is infiltrated also gives me the knowledge to control what is known and not known about me. Believe me when I say the aluminum hat doesn't work.

The sad part is for the right amount of money I can know everything there is to know about you.

 

[hawgdawg]

The only way you're going to hide in this day and time is to throw away your cell phone , dump your bank account, quit work , and walk off into the hills and never come out , or you'll be picked up on a street camera somewhere. If I was in better shape , I'd probably do just this.

 

[MrNovice]

Nobody is hiding or trying to "live off the grid", (okay, maybe some are) but I live in freaking Dallas, a major metropolitian city with at least 1 million other people out of the 350 million in the US. Just because I don't want to bring something into my house that everyone knows and is admittedly actively monitoring and recording anything around it...doesn't mean I'm wearing some kind of tin foil hat.

I do, I truly do, understand that there are many ways for people to get and gather info on someone. I'm just helping myself, limit, how much I voluntarily give out. You can do whatever floats your boat, and that's cool. But to me, voluntarily bringing in such known devices is pretty much the equivalent of propping yourself infront of Facebook live and streaming 24/7, someone could be monitoring the other end of that device or it could be 1,000 Amazon employees broadcasting you live through a warehouse speaker somewhere. You wouldn't even know.

 

[hawgdawg]

I think you took something out of context here , I just made a statement, not pointing fingers directly at you or anyone else , or insinuating anything. Just an innocent statement of my belief .

 

[MrNovice]

I think you took something out of context here , I just made a statement, not pointing fingers directly at you or anyone else , or insinuating anything. Just an innocent statement of my belief .

Nah, I was replying to Detector's reply above yours. I guess I should have quoted him. I was just saying it's not always one extreme of either hugging all technology or the other of trying to reject all of it. There's a whole lot of middle ground between the two. I mean, it's nice having an electric coffee maker but I definitely don't need one that's bluetooth and hooked to my wifi.

Trust me, if it were like 30 years ago and I was retired...I'd be hopping off the grid with you out into those hills. Of course, I bet most people were generally kinder then than they are now. So the world probably didn't seem as bad a place as it does now?

 

[BottleCapKing]

Thanks! It was "Echo", not Alexa.

Makes one wonder, why exactly are they saving recordings of your conversations in your own home? To use against you at a later date.....when the Book of Face sends SWAT to your home because their AI deemed you "dangerous".

This technology will be coming to cable boxes in the near future. Comcast and I think Time Warner already have patent applications in on cable boxes that will base TV adverts on demographics in the room and conversations going on at the time.

If you like your XFINITY remote that allows voice commands, that is the gateway technology.

Everything these smart speakers etc record is forever. It is cheaper to keep the data than it is for Amazon, etc, to purge it.

 

[GLASSHOPPER1955]

This technology will be coming to cable boxes in the near future. Comcast and I think Time Warner already have patent applications in on cable boxes that will base TV adverts on demographics in the room and conversations going on at the time.

If you like your XFINITY remote that allows voice commands, that is the gateway technology.

Everything these smart speakers etc record is forever. It is cheaper to keep the data than it is for Amazon, etc, to purge it.

And talk about something illegal and the authorities come knocking probably too. Forget it.

 

[amc rulz]

And talk about something illegal and the authorities come knocking probably too. Forget it.

New DirecTV remote controls also currently use voice command.

 

[remmy]

I do not do facebook or any of the other "social media". You will never ever catch me conversing with people I have never met over the internet, nope never happen I tell you!

 

[GTS225]

How long before "they" decide you need to be watched because you don't embrace the new technology, so "they" can watch you easier?

(How's that for conspiracy theory?)

Roger

 

[Cherry Picker]

I'm just helping myself, limit, how much I voluntarily give out.

Exactly my point.

There is no such thing as living off the grid and the fact is attempting to do so will only draw attention to yourself. When you try and limit how much you voluntarily give out your information that sets off the alarm asking why you're trying to hide. BINGO, you become a "person of interest" and an even closer watch is kept of your daily activities.

That is why I say know your not limiting anything and act as if you have no reason to do so and you will be just another of the millions of people in the US with no cross on your back.

 

[Gauntlet]

So because I'm not going to "embrace" all this, doesn't mean I think I'm invisible, hiding-out, or off-grid.

We just think differently, you choose to bring it into your life, and I choose to avoid it (without wearing a tinfoil hat). Tell me, what do you do regarding the drone the guy down the block is flying into your yard, and focusing into your window? Are you claiming to be able to outwit all the alphabet agencies to prevent them from intercepting any of your communications? Nobody has the ability to hack any of your bank accounts, or any of these home eletronics discussed in this thread? If you do...welcome to the head in the sand club

I read a headline yesterday saying 50% of children will be obese by the time they're 35. Do we really need things to make people more lazy? Geez, now we cant even pick up the TV remote to change channels, we need to just be able to say it.....how long before we're too lazy to talk, and need a machine hooked to our brains to read our thoughts and operate the tv from those. Ditto with turning on/off lights, adjusting the thermostat, and lots of other stuff. This technology was born to play off the laziness of people.

I'm well aware our emails are all archived (hence my prior post regarding my little message to Google), as well as calls/texts monitored. As a society. we've become far too accepting of this invasion of privacy. That said, when my time comes, I don't go worrying how my kids world will be (since I chose not to have any), I wouldn't want that burden. Things will only get worse.

 

[Cherry Picker]

Tell me, what do you do regarding the drone the guy down the block is flying into your yard, and focusing into your window?

Well first off, as a Drone flier myself I know what a Drone can and can't do. Part of embracing technology to better understand it. Sure a commercial drone could possibly do that but no privately owned drone has that capability. That is all paranoia from those who are just listening to others that don't know. Know the laws before you suspect. It is illegal to fly a drone over private property at less than 80'. At 80' you're lucky to identify a dog in the yard much less look in a window.

I do agree about today's children and being lazy. I think a big part of that problem is most popular activities today allow you to sit at a desk all day and not physically move around like we had to. When I was a kid we road bikes, skateboards, with steel wheels LOL, played on the river and outside with the pets. In fact I remember my mom telling us all the time to "go outside and play".

I'm just saying, as someone who deals and is shown the newest technology almost daily, if they, whoever they might be, chose to target you they will. Very little you can do other than stay low and not give them a reason to want to know who you are. Trying to dodge them is a reason for them to take interest in you.

As they say, keep your friends close and you enemies closer. Knowing you're being watched makes not giving them a reason to watch easier.

 

[Mud-puppy]

The only way you're going to hide in this day and time is to throw away your cell phone , dump your bank account, quit work , and walk off into the hills and never come out , or you'll be picked up on a street camera somewhere. If I was in better shape , I'd probably do just this.

Yeah...me too I like to think about it..except a guy has to come up for air sometime...I observed how Coyotes adapted to change in the last 50yrs and learned a lot from them...They can survive way up in Canada, or they can survive in the big City!

Nowadays A guy has to be able to survive in Both Worlds like a Coyote...being able to flip from the Boardroom to the Backwoods in an instant as the situation merits...I doubt the PTB are concerned at all about any Wildling Hermits, nor do they consider a bunch of old guys who metal detect any kind of interesting credible threat...

But Yeah, even the gov runs commercials about Being Prepared for ice storms or power outages or whatnot...This modern World is built with a shaky and fragile foundation, and Humans are very fragile as well...Its nice to have some caveman skills, as well as being able to function effortlessly within Society ...within reason...It'll all work out...