Is 1 bitcoin really worth 1/4lb of platinum

Google says a bitcoin's current value is $3353.96, and with $800 you could have bought 10,000 bitcoins if they were $0.08 each, and today they would be worth $33,539,600. :shock:
Less than 30 days later, BTC has topped $5,000 according to several exchanges.
 
It seems to me that you could get started mining for just a few hundred dollars and start earning bitcoins.
Has anybody had any experience with this?
I have no experience with mining, but my research tells me that BTC is highly impractical to mine with a basic PC, due to electricity consumption, which overrides any kind of profit. You need a very fast rig, and possibly expensive software in order to compete.
 
It seems to me that you could get started mining for just a few hundred dollars and start earning bitcoins.
Has anybody had any experience with this?

Google team bit coin mining or similar phrases. Basically your computer works worth others to mine the bs. Your computer could be mining right now while your reading this or watching a movie. How much you can earn I don't know but your computer is already on.... so why not?
 
Bitcoin at crossroads after shedding more than $23 billion in value

Bitcoin at crossroads after shedding more than $23 billion in value

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/bitcoin-at-crossroads-after-shedding-more-than-dollar23-billion-in-value/ar-AArT5AD

Quote from the above link -

"Bitcoin and other digital currencies have been getting absolutely toasted in recent trade, with some wondering if withering criticism from Wall Street heavyweights, like J.P. Morgan Chase’s (JPM)!CEO, and growing regulatory scrutiny in China have finally combined to exact a punishing, and lasting, toll on one of the most bubblicious segments of finance.

On Thursday, the value of a single bitcoin (BTCUSD) was down about 10% at $3,565, compared with around $5,000 in early September and representing a roughly $23 billion loss of market value in the world’s No. 1 cryptocurrency..... (end of quote)
 
It seems to me that you could get started mining for just a few hundred dollars and start earning bitcoins.
Has anybody had any experience with this?

I looked into it seriously a year ago when bitcoin was around $500. The antminer S7 had just came out and the hashing power per kwatt was great! I just couldn't figure out what I could use the heat generated for or how to dispose of it since I'm in Texas.

Now I believe the S9 is out, still same problem for me, just too much heat is produced.

https://www.bitmain.com

There are companies in Greenland and Swiss that mine out of HUGE warehouses and harness the heat produced.

 
I really don't understand why it is valued at all, except for doing nefarious transactions that need to be kept secret. I mean, it's like getting paid for finding the next largest prime number. :?:
 
I really don't understand why it is valued at all, except for doing nefarious transactions that need to be kept secret. I mean, it's like getting paid for finding the next largest prime number. :?:

Just as you described, it's anonymous for both buyer and seller, non tracable (although it takes layering now to be sure), and no taxes. That's worth something to many people including me. Nothing nefarious, I'm just tired of companies tracking and selling info about me and my purchases to advertisers, or leaving a paper trail making it easier for prying eyes who are looking for info.

The way it holds value is there is only a certain set amount that will ever be produced, no one can print or create more. It can also be lost if you misplace the codes to your bitcoin wallet and can't gain access, thus even more raising the value of those still in circulation.

It has value based on the cost involved (energy and hardware) to mine it. As the hashrate increases so does the value because more energy has to be spent for the same quantity of bitcoin, thus increasing the cost (price). Real dollars are spent mining, so it's worth those real dollars.
 
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Banned in China and Russia. Being pumped in USA and Japan. Bitcoin good, gold bad is the meme being pushed.
The rest I'm sure you can figure out
 
bitcoin or USD?

The Obama administration increased the money supply by over 300%. The Carter administration increased the money supply by only 13% and resulted in 18% interest rates. What do you think the results of a 300% increase in the money supply will have on the USD?
 
I will stick with the Funny Money put out by the US Mint. Neither the bitcoin or the funny money have any actual value but the stuff the Mint prints is more wildly accepted
 
The Obama administration increased the money supply by over 300%. The Carter administration increased the money supply by only 13% and resulted in 18% interest rates. What do you think the results of a 300% increase in the money supply will have on the USD?

BottleCapKing, I think you have the relationship between money supply and inflation backwards.

The Effect of Money Supply on the Economy:
An increase in the supply of money typically lowers interest rates, which in turns generates more investment and puts more money in the hands of consumers, thereby stimulating spending. Businesses respond by ordering more raw materials and increasing production. The increased business activity raises the demand for labor. The opposite can occur if the money supply falls or when its growth rate decline.

Historically, the measure of money supply has shown that relationships exist between certain economic factors and inflation, which was used as a determinant of the future direction of price levels and inflation. However, since 2000, these relationships have become unstable, reducing their reliability as a guide for monetary policy. Although money supply measures are still widely used, they are no more important than the wide array of other economic data that economists and the Federal Reserve collects and reviews.

How Useful Is the Money Supply Measurement?
The money supply traditionally expanded and contracted along with the economy and inflation.

For that reason, the economist Milton Friedman said the money supply was a useful indicator. (Source: "Is the Money Supply Important?" The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.)

But in the 1990s, that relationship changed. People took money out of low-interest bearing savings accounts and invested it in the stock market. M2 fell as the economy and inflation grew. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan questioned the usefulness of the money supply measurement. He said if the economy were dependent on the M2 money supply for growth, it would be in a recession. For that reason, the Federal Reserve no longer sets a target for the money supply. (Source: "The Money Supply," Federal Reserve Bank of New York.)

Interesting factoid:

What Is the Current U.S. Money Supply?
In November 2016, M1 was $3.354 trillion. More than half was held in checking accounts. The rest ($1.4 trillion) was cash and traveler's checks. More than $1 trillion is in $100 bills. Another $300 billion is in $20 bills and other lower denominations. There's $300 million in higher-denomination bills that are collectors' items.

Banks don't hold that currency. It's all in circulation. That's $11,000 in cash per household. Most people use debit and credit cards instead of cash.

That means it's probably used by those who don't want their income reported to the IRS. That includes criminals, for whom a briefcase can hold a million dollars worth of $100 bills.

Of this, an astonishing two-thirds was held outside of the country. Many emerging market economies use the greenback as a substitute for their volatile currency. As many travelers know, a $20 bill is good throughout the world.

It could also include those who filed for Social Security disability benefits. An increasing number of people under 60 have done so since the recession. They may be working in underground jobs that only pay cash. That way they don't have to report it to the IRS and lose their benefits. (Source: Gene Epstein, "Cash Might Be Dethroned, But It Hasn't Gone Away," Barron's, May 18, 2015.)

M2 was $13.223 trillion.

Most of it ($8.7 trillion) was in savings accounts. Money markets held $712 billion and time deposits held $376 billion.
 
The Obama administration increased the money supply by over 300%. The Carter administration increased the money supply by only 13% and resulted in 18% interest rates. What do you think the results of a 300% increase in the money supply will have on the USD?
making additional currency reduces the value, not the other way around.
Interesting. See above my post for a great commentary..

Bottom line is that with all markets, "past results do not indicated future returns."
 
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