Trashman
Junior Member
I almost always hunt in all metal .
Who else does this and why?
Who else does this and why?
I run the CTX3030 wide open, and then switch to a discrimination pattern to re-check a target to see if it falls into the discrimination area pre dig.
If in the woods I hunt all metal because the ground is so clean that I go 30 min between beeps. If I hunt a farm or urban area I can't hunt all metal. The detector picks up so many roofing nails that there is only a split second between beeps.
i run the ctx3030 wide open, and then switch to a discrimination pattern to re-check a target to see if it falls into the discrimination area pre dig.
I run the CTX3030 wide open, and then switch to a discrimination pattern to re-check a target to see if it falls into the discrimination area pre dig.
In my opinion the term "All Metal Mode" isn't the same. It basically meant your detector didn't discriminate out any metals. Today even the AT Pro would be considered an All Metal mode when run with Iron Audio on. All metals make a noise and you base the decision to recover on tone and numbers. Same with the Deus. I run in Full Tones and 0 Discrimination. All metals produce a tone and I make my judgment to recover or not based on tone and ID.
I almost always hunt in all metal .
Who else does this and why?
Using the term "all metal".,, can be a bit misleading.
For example,,,fbs/fbs2 machines ,,,,running open screen,,,is not technically all metal,,,meaning don't expect additional depth capabilities with tone provided.
Deus running 0 disc is very similar,,,,true you can hear both ferrous and nonferrous metals,,but not all the detector is capable of actually providing sound for your hearing(depth).
Going to using technically all metal mode,,,additional depth is possible,,,with amount of soil minerals being a driver.
At Gold had all metal I think,,,At Pro does not,,,meaning AT gold is deeper detector in higher mineral soil vs At Pro.
Running discrimation side of the house,,and accepting all vdis ( ferrous and nonferrous) is NOT necessarily hunting in " technically" all metal.
Depends on the detector model.
Just so folks may understand better.
Using say a F75 fisher,,one of the originals,,,,a person using all metal with high sens,,,likely to be able to hear a 15" deep Civil war bullet in medium mineral soil,,wearing stock coil.
Remember,,though you won't know if the deep bullet is nonferrous or ferrous.
Take an Etrac or CTX with stock coil,,run open screen,,,on this same 15" deep bullet--- user likely to not hear anything tone wise to make them dig.
So, I'm not sure if the OP's question was a depth related question or just a general question.
I'll see if I can find it but a thread (on another forum) by a OEM engineer, I had read, explained depth and description on a digital machine vs a analog detector. I'm paraphrasing but he had explained the digital machine's increase in discrimination does not reduce the transmit signal power similar to the analog detectors of the past. As a matter of fact your friends at HDMD have made similar comments about the Blisstool in iron infested areas.
As we all know, sensitivity settings, discrimination settings, and falsing iron has a big influence on what we see or hear every time we swing the detector.
Not sure I understand what you mean here:
Running discrimation side of the house,,and accepting all vdis ( ferrous and nonferrous) is NOT necessarily hunting in " technically" all metal.
Seems counterintuitive, (educate me please)