Fisher Impulse AQ detector update

It could be a pretty safe bet... the COMPETITION with out modification wont do this. BUT...... we have yet to see THIS machine do it either. Does appear we will see this machine THIS YEAR. Well unless it wont hit that nickel at 17"...... then back to the drawing board (pulse devil). I expect to see 20+ in my sand on that nickel......with disc:lol:
 
I am now back on the main line. Detector stuff only - apologies for the reminiscing - won’t happen again - hopefully....

I think what Alexandre meant was that from the ideal to the least favorable setting of the SAT, the 17” nickel signal was solid. The nickel at 17” - all metal check, multitone check, mute check. Not a test where — how deep can I bury this and still get a signal - different test

If I am correct in this, it means that there is still some “detectability margin” left at 17” on a nickel with the AQ, otherwise burying it at the maximum depth detectable with the optimum setting of the SAT should have resulted in not picking it up at less optimism SAT settings.


Rick... so this was a controlled depth test... how about a test with a heavy face gold ring such as a signet ring with thin band as most have... a nickel although similar to a gold ring is not the same in composition. When I saw heavy face.. I am not talking about a heavy ring I want a test on a 1 to 3 gram ring at what depth are they signalling at... they are quite common and usually face down.
 
It could be a pretty safe bet... the COMPETITION with out modification wont do this. BUT...... we have yet to see THIS machine do it either. Does appear we will see this machine THIS YEAR. Well unless it wont hit that nickel at 17"...... then back to the drawing board (pulse devil). I expect to see 20+ in my sand on that nickel......with disc:lol:

True Dew.. but we are talking about spending under a $1000 dollars plus a battery mod and some tweaking vs $2500 for a niche detector.


Maybe with our posting about the Pulse Devil the guy will start that project up again so we have another option.. :lol:
 
True Dew.. but we are talking about spending under a $1000 dollars plus a battery mod and some tweaking vs $2500 for a niche detector.


Maybe with our posting about the Pulse Devil the guy will start that project up again so we have another option.. :lol:


Send your Pulse Devil to me so I can make a battery pack for it, I would not have it long...:D..maybe
 
I suspect we will not see any of the kind of video testing results you are looking for until final production hardware is available to so-called “marketing testers”. Typically, Pre production units are sent to “field testers” who operate under non-disclosure and provide feedback directly to whoever is running the testing program in the manufacturer’s organization. The non-disclosure obligations are typically permanent - they are not released after the unit reaches the market.

The marketing testers traditionally were folks who got review production units in order for them to produce useful marketing support information. Back in the day, they would include distributors, major dealers, writers who would d test reports for magazines - those kind of folks. These days the magazines are about gone and online “influencers” have replaced the folks who used to write test reports.

I have no insight into Fisher’s plans regarding videos, etc, but given that the Manta “Euroteam” has an established history of making videos to demonstrate the detector, I would be surprised if they didn’t release more. Just look at the two short ones Alexandre put out a couple of weeks ago.
 
Hope they

Don't make the mistake as the TDI Beachunter did, have everybody scrambling for a longer run time battery pack, and no wish for a heavier alternative, put the wright battery in to begin with, taking all this time to make , and test ,the AQ , than have it picked a part with 1 flaw , is not an option, i see the TDI Beach Hunter thread turn into a Battery expert thread :shock::laughing: , is the AQ NEXT , could be, for the bread spent mmmm, better be wright:realitycheck::pirate2: Ps i agree with CFM-CT the wire to coil need's to be moved to another position , if Fisher thought by moving the position to the front to draw attention, they were wrong, besides the battery , this is flaw #2 .
 
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They want to sell us the 10 hour pack....the very guys who will use this machine. If a ML pod cost $170 what will this unique one cost? Just give us the 10 hour one in the first place. Doesn’t this tick you guys off....an added cost to what is expected to be a pricy machine? I understand some PIs can use other coils....not if this one is 7uS.
 
Dew, nobody wants to sell you anything - nothing is for sale. We are talking about bits and pieces of information gathered from various sources about what is still a development program. No production hardware exists yet, no marketing plan has been revealed (and maybe not even finished yet).

As far as details like what battery will be standard, whether there will be optional ones and at what cost, exactly what the production coil will look like and whether there will be options - it is entirely possible that even Tim Mallory, VP of Marketing and Sales at First Texas doesn’t know the final answers to your questions.

Wondering is natural, asking is normal - acting like somebody needs to jump up and immediately answer whatever question or potential disadvantage pops up is unrealistic. Things simply don’t work that way.

It is quite likely that no notice of the AQ would be on public forums now if I hadn’t “spilled the beans” after Mike Scott of First Texas told me on an ordinary phone call about a different subject about two years ago that they had hired Alexandre Tartar. I had been following the AquaManta Project for a couple of years by then so I knew what that acquisition by Fisher meant. So if you are tired of speculation and the like, you can blame me.
 
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For a fortune 500 company for 33 year's , they still remain on the list, something manufacturer's have to learn, or go out of business like Tesoro, The Customer All- Way's Comes First. Company Policies Targeting , taking more money out of the pocket's of the customer for extra's , performance, run time , that should have come with the package from the get go, Is Not Wanted . Rick we all know you can't answer our question's, you have No answer's, you know nothing of the final production model, that will hit the market Whenever, all i can say, This tread posted by TNSS , not you, with over 10,000 view's , just hope , the Fisher Crew is watching, and yes , all of us here on public forum's , are the Customer's , and make a choice , on purchasing , not the manufacturer, or any Big name's you throw up here on a post, doesn't make a difference, on the final decision we make on a purchase, we will watch , wait :waiting: , and see what Fisher bring's in the final package.
 
They want to sell us the 10 hour pack....the very guys who will use this machine. If a ML pod cost $170 what will this unique one cost? Just give us the 10 hour one in the first place. Doesn’t this tick you guys off....an added cost to what is expected to be a pricy machine? I understand some PIs can use other coils....not if this one is 7uS.



Why would they do that Dew? Once you buy the machine they want more revenue and that is where accessories come into play... I own my own service business.. if I want more money from my clients I will sell them extra's..

Get with the program :lol:
 
For a fortune 500 company for 33 year's , they still remain on the list, something manufacturer's have to learn, or go out of business like Tesoro, The Customer All- Way's Comes First. Company Policies Targeting , taking more money out of the pocket's of the customer for extra's , performance, run time , that should have come with the package from the get go, Is Not Wanted . Rick we all know you can't answer our question's, you have No answer's, you know nothing of the final production model, that will hit the market Whenever, all i can say, This tread posted by TNSS , not you, with over 10,000 view's , just hope , the Fisher Crew is watching, and yes , all of us here on public forum's , are the Customer's , and make a choice , on purchasing , not the manufacturer, or any Big name's you throw up here on a post, doesn't make a difference, on the final decision we make on a purchase, we will watch , wait :waiting: , and see what Fisher bring's in the final package.

Yes they are watching Earl.. they are paying attention to your posts... they want to know why you stopped using emoticons.
 
God I love to watch your reflective responses Rick. So I guess Alexandre is incorrect there is two battery packs? I’m going to make waves and ask questions and speculate till this machine comes out. Who knows....maybe someone is reading and listening to those of us who put in several hundred hours of beach and water hunting. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.....once it’s out it out. I may not be getting everything answered but have gotten some from hopefully reliable folks....on the forums and in PM.
 
God I love to watch your reflective responses Rick. So I guess Alexandre is incorrect there is two battery packs? I’m going to make waves and ask questions and speculate till this machine comes out. Who knows....maybe someone is reading and listening to those of us who put in several hundred hours of beach and water hunting. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.....once it’s out it out. I may not be getting everything answered but have gotten some from hopefully reliable folks....on the forums and in PM.

I think its going to be a long wait... not in production? After the fanfare about the NOX then the waiting because they didn't expect the interest in it.. you probably will be able to try one out in your bathtub at the old folks home :laughing:
 
Cfm-Ct/ Fisher Team

Alot of member's here are concerned, a high dollar machine , battery, coil wire placement, un - answered questions on a mega thread, even ML had flaws on the production model Equinox - that i found , and other's , which came to MORE cost for aftermarket solution's , Balance issue's, a wobble issue , getting part's like coil's issue, thing's that the manufacturer had plenty time to address before hand, all i ask is make it wright, give us all the tool's we need, in the final package, including Carbon Fiber , Craig when you see no emotion's mean's i am getting seriously concerned , 2500 for a Pi detector with disc that loose's depth in disc, has little battery run time, bad positioning wire to coil , no carbon fiber shaft's, only waterproof to 1 meter , :roll: it better come with a 3 year warranty, nothing less, back your machine, everything said here - is questionable.:shock::?: PS Fisher - not everyone will have an interest in this Niche -PI detector , if the final package is not wright , regard's a concerned Fisher Fan, it's been a long time, i might add, give us a Pulse Devil package hard to resist :chaplin: than you will have :dingding:
 
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Don't make the mistake as the TDI Beachunter did, have everybody scrambling for a longer run time battery pack, and no wish for a heavier alternative, put the wright battery in to begin with, taking all this time to make , and test ,the AQ , than have it picked a part with 1 flaw , is not an option, i see the TDI Beach Hunter thread turn into a Battery expert thread :shock::laughing: , is the AQ NEXT , could be, for the bread spent mmmm, better be wright:realitycheck::pirate2: Ps i agree with CFM-CT the wire to coil need's to be moved to another position , if Fisher thought by moving the position to the front to draw attention, they were wrong, besides the battery , this is flaw #2 .

What mistake are you alluding to Earl? If its the battery.. they did what they thought was safe... the reason why they can't waterproof the TDI PRO is heat... the high power of the PRO creates a lot of heat and hunting the water would bring condensation....

There is a solution to these problems you see Earl... wait.. don't be the first to have to have it... its really that simple.

You really need to stop criticizing all these detector companies..first the NOX then the AQ now the TDI... I have an idea... why don't you come out of retirement and offer your services to one of these companies...
 
Cfm-ct

Not talking about the TDI pro, i did say about your TDI Beach hunter- thread -on this thread, it was turning into a Battery issue expert thread, again TDI BEACH HUNTER :roll:, what i want is a Battery like Dew said at least 8 to 10 hours' run time, your not buying one so , what's your concern, ya i am waiting, watching , no i am retired , why don't you offer your service's to one of these manufacturer's :roll::p:laughing:, i am not a pro, nor do i hunt a lot like DEW, however since it's a Niche PI , i want it wright, just like DEW , as a retired occasional hunter , i would finally like to see a manufacturer have the complete package, i brought up the Equinox, because the final package had issue's, Wobble, Un-Balanced, solution was , had to buy another Strait shaft with a 3 position option to raise or lower the head, for a more balanced machine, better lock down joint, all Carbon Fiber including lower rod's, AT MY EXPENSE -something you wouldn't know because you don't own a Equinox, i might add the 2500 dollar CTX 3030 has water proofing to 10 meter's, with a 3 year warranty , the same with the Equinox , but the Equinox didn't come with CF at a lower price, above and beyond 2k , they should all come with CF collapsible shaft"s , anything i didn't explain :?: I am retired , bring it :boxing::lol: PS DEW , and i can go more than 15 round's howboutit :shock::lol: PS What happened to your buddy Rick ? Did he get stuck in the sand again, or to many round's howboutit :laughing::cool3:
 
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Forgetting the drama, how much of the overall cost relates to the production of the coils?

To perform at 7uS is each coil hand built/hand wound? Is this the production bottleneck?
 
Im not trying to yank anyones chain here..... i do indeed want to see this machine be everything we hope it will be...... and its looking great. I dont apologize for asking questions or pointing out things .... debate is a good thing. Im no engineer... but if just one of the questions me and others ask makes someone think.... thats good i believe. Yes im selfish...... im a nitch guy.... IN THE WATER hunter.... and small gold is just something i like finding. I dont currently use a PI.... because well we know why we use VLFs. I was just this passionate when the Nox was being introduced.... i saw a lot of beach potential. Think most of us have been happy with what we got for the price and warranty. This is the only opportunity to get our 2 cents in ..... before management makes some important decisions...... i be the engineers know what im saying. I already see info...... like it will be out this year..... there will be a 10 hour battery.... not the best on 24K gold unless in AM.... and may or may not equal the Nox for small gold. Thats us asking questions and those in the know giving us what they know..... we werent getting much before. this is going to be a very interesting machine.....that in the long run may just change what we use on the beach.
 
Mmmmm

Keep checking Fisher's Site for information , or at least some fresh video's , NONE, other than forum's were else can we find answer's, ask question's , now for doing so , we look like bad guy's , busting our chop's , but in reality- real time, we will be in the 1st group of buyer's , :lol: SO far on this mega thread , NO answer's have happened, another DRAMA :cool12: thread, i am stepping down , can't find out a thing without getting the whip , :takeoff:
 
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