Looking for help with GER Deep seeker

[thedude2]

I recently came across a deep seeker. Have been trying to get familiar with it, but it never seems to be giving accurate readings. Is there anyone in here that have used it?

 

[chillforlife]

Just curious, how much did you pay for it?

 

[oldkoot]

I recently came across a deep seeker. Have been trying to get familiar with it, but it never seems to be giving accurate readings. Is there anyone in here that have used it?

They are snake oil, they do not work, build yourself some divining rods way cheaper and pretty much do the same thing

Just curious, how much did you pay for it?

New they are $7500 and again they do not work there are all kinds of post on Detector Prospector about them
pretty much a scam that bilks good people of their hard earned money

 

[chillforlife]

They are snake oil, they do not work, build yourself some divining rods way cheaper and pretty much do the same thing

New they are $7500 and again they do not work there are all kinds of post on Detector Prospector about them
pretty much a scam that bilks good people of their hard earned money

That was going to be my point. Whatever he spent was hopefully a good lesson to ask the question before you buy. These machines are scams and you should (or should have) run away as fast as possible.

 

[AhNibblet]

Come on folks and do some research before laying out copious funds. GER is the same company that sells diamond detectors. How do you detect a nonferrous, even a nonmetallic crystal? Exactly! Sorry, if i sound scolding, I just dislike dishonest companies.

 

[Indotguy]

P. T. Barnum once said there's a sucker born every minute.

 

[AirmetTango]

LRLs (long range locators) are all scams, and GER is just one of many “brand” names that peddle this garbage at outrageous prices. No, I haven’t used one. But to be blunt, here’s my advice: drive to your chosen location and leave the deep seeker at home - or better yet, chose a route with a dumpster along the way, and deposit it. Blindfold yourself and wander around the site pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey style until you decide randomly to stop and dig. You’ll have exactly the same chance of finding gold, diamonds, gemstones, ancient monuments, or whatever other ludicrous targets the GER Deep Seeker claims it can find using this method as you would through using any LRL machine. (I wish I could take credit for throwing “ancient monuments” in there to be funny, but the Amazon ad for the GER Deep Seeker actually lists it as an potential target!! )

Kind of interesting…there have been several threads in the last month or two asking about GER machines from one and done posters. Hmmm….

 

[hoser]

Hey it's your money so you do with it as you want. I do however mirror what everyone else has said. The ONLY thing similar to this that I know for a fact works is two bent metal rods used to locate underground pipes and electric cables. That I have seen and it does work.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

They are snake oil, they do not work, ....

.... garbage at outrageous prices. .....

..... there's a sucker born every minute.

.... How do you detect a nonferrous, even a nonmetallic crystal?.....

.... These machines are scams .....

Nah, you guys just didn't practice long enough. You're just being a bunch-of kill-joys. Tsk tsk. I mean, shucks, do you find a gold coin every time you go out md'ing ? Of course not. So why the double standard when evaluating this product ? Huh ? Huh ?

They do indeed work. You merely take them out, wave them at enough likely looking ruins, pull our your detector to "pinpoint". Dig countless holes, and .... when you FINALLY dig up a goodie, then presto !! It worked !! (hard to argue with success, eh ?). And if you DON'T find a goodie, it DOESN'T mean that the device doesn't work. That only means either 1) You need more practice, or 2) durned those sun-spots anyhow !

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... two bent metal rods used to locate underground pipes and electric cables. That I have seen and it does work.

When someone is going to go pinpoint/isolate "underground pipes and electric cables", they are not going to "random places". They are going to places where THEY ALREADY KNOW that there are (drum roll): Underground pipes and electric cables. Right ? Then subconscious terrain clues take over. Hence, sorry ..... I'm not buying it. Whenever these guys have been challenged to show this trick in double blind controlled tests, it never works.

 

[Diga]

When someone is going to go pinpoint/isolate "underground pipes and electric cables", they are not going to "random places". They are going to places where THEY ALREADY KNOW that there are (drum roll): Underground pipes and electric cables. Right ? Then subconscious terrain clues take over. Hence, sorry ..... I'm not buying it. Whenever these guys have been challenged to show this trick in double blind controlled tests, it never works.

It's the epitome of confirmation bias.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

It's the epitome of confirmation bias.

Yes. And it's very understandable why people fall for it. It's subtle. No one "registers" when something they had a premonition about DOESN'T come true. You only register when it DOES come true.

So we will tend to dismiss our false guesses and dry holes (since we were certain preface it with "... I think ..."). But finally, when we come down on a good hole, we raise our fists to the air and say : "I knew it !". It's the selective memory bias that makes us think our horoscopes come true. Or that conspiracy theories are true. We have simply "registered" only when its confirming our biases. And promptly forgotten and not registered all the other times.

 

[Diga]

Yes. And it's very understandable why people fall for it. It's subtle. No one "registers" when something they had a premonition about DOESN'T come true. You only register when it DOES come true.

It's like the belief that "psychic predictions" are true.

So called psychics like Nostradamus, are so utterly vague and subjective with their predictions, that each prediction could be associated with just about any natural world event.

For the more precise psychics, people will often focus in on one prediction the psychic got right, and ignore the 100 other predications they got wrong. Any smuck can make 100 predictions, and by chance alone and how world events constantly change, then of course 1 or 2 of the predictions will seemingly have "come true".

 

[hoser]

I'm not buying it. Whenever these guys have been challenged to show this trick in double blind controlled tests, it never works.

Well Tom let me enlighten you just a tad there bucko. When I was an apprentice lineman, I was placed on an underground power cable crew. We were working in an oil facility and we couldn't use the vibra plow to put cable in because of some petroleum lines right where we had to run the power line. No maps, no prints, no nothing to go on. I'm thinking it was gonna be break time, but that didn't happen. My foreman was a very seasoned journeyman, and he told me to go to the line truck, cut two #6 hard drawn bare copper wires about 24" long and straighten them out. I did this and took them to, we'll call him Morry. He bent them at the 1/3 mark to make an "L" he took those wires holding them close to his chest and started walking back and forth. For a long time they stayed straight and then at one point they crossed. He kept walking and they straightened back out. Cut to the chase he did this numerous times and the wires crossed at the same point. It was at this point he told ME the apprentice to start digging. I was PO'ed as I thought I was going to dig 900 holes all over the place and finally get lucky and hit the pipe. Well at 4' almost on the money I hit something metallic with the shovel. Yep it was the oil pipeline in question. So Tom please don't be quite so fast to insert an opinion you really don't have the exact answer to OK. This was not the first or last time I have been witness to this so called mumbo jumbo that was dead on.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

....... This was not the first or last time I have been witness to this .....

I don't doubt that anecdotal evidence abounds. Just as in anecdotal evidence testimonials of miracle potions, etc.... It's just that whenever these "anecdotal stories" get submitted to double blind controlled experiments, they never perform. Why's that ?

 

[hoser]

Tom you are talking to a "Disbeliever" however when shown it is indeed real you just have to rethink the logic you are used to. Some people cannot or will not grasp that. What else can I say. We are at an impasse. I have seen it, you have not, therefore.........

 

[Diga]

Well Tom let me enlighten you just a tad there bucko. When I was an apprentice lineman, I was placed on an underground power cable crew. We were working in an oil facility and we couldn't use the vibra plow to put cable in because of some petroleum lines right where we had to run the power line. No maps, no prints, no nothing to go on.

You worked for some underground electrical power cable crew that doesn't have wiring and pipe detectors?

Also, not only would any oil facility have maps for their underground pipes, but they would have extraordinarily detailed maps. Yet, your foreman is like, "No need to get the map, we can use magical peices of wire!"

Your whole story sounds like something out of a Three Stooges movie.

Dowsing isn't even pseudoscience...it's total non-science. Dowsing has no scientific basis at all. It's been scientifically debunked countless times in double blind experiments.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Tom you are talking to a "Disbeliever" however when shown it is indeed real you just have to rethink the logic ....

I completely agree ^ ^ Ok, then notice your exact words " .... when shown ...". Ok, then that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about : Let's see it "shown" in double blind controlled experiments. Then *sure*, it will have been "shown". Agreed. Trouble is : This hasn't been done

 

[Diga]

Hoser,

Do you really think your foreman is going to dig on an oil facility without knowing where the pipes are? No one is that stupid.

Sounds more like your foreman knew where the pipe was, and pulled a fast one on "the new kid" (you).

 

[hoser]

Oh it has been done before these eyes. One thing you will learn is I DON'T LIE!