Tom_in_CA
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Hey guys,
Another recent thread : "Vacation detecting in W.V." brought up an issue of state parks there. And member Flies-only chimed in with a link from a popular website (a sort of laws compendium) . Here's the post:
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=289381
Pay special attention to posts #9 to #15, where this unravelled.
And the link that F.O. linked :
http://www.mdhtalk.org/cf/city-regulation.cfm?st=WV
And the particular quote he culled from that link reads :
Metal detecting is not allowed in West Virginia State Parks and Forests. It is not illegal in and of itself but our regulations prohibit the disturbance or removal of any item found. ....
Sounds pretty convincing, eh ? Who can argue with that, eh ? And this particular entity "MDHtalk" has seemingly become a compendium go-to list on the web these days . Not unlike the earlier FMDAC state-by-state web list link. (which harkens back to the pre-internet book "Treasure Laws of the United States" by R. W. Grim).
And no one seems to dispute either the FMDAC or MDHtalk web-links. eh ? After all, someone's "done the homework" already for you. Eh ? After all, "google is your friend". Eh ?
And as an added bonus, notice the interesting suffix to that quote that F.O. drew in :
.... Thanks, WV State Parks
A few things jumped out at me, when I read all of this :
1) Notice how, whomever is speaking .... IS ACKNOWLEDGING that it's not illegal, in-&-of-itself. Hhhhmmm....
2) And then notice that curious suffix salutation : "Thanks, WV parks" Hmmm. What does that suffix salutation tell you ? It tells you that someone (either MDHtalk, or someone whom their citing/quoting), has apparently gone , at some time in the past, to WV state parks dept. and asked about md'ing. And this is merely the reply quotation that the person(s) got back. Can we agree on this ?
Pretty hard to argue with that, eh ? An answer straight from some pencil jockey in-authority, who must've answered the "contact us" tab/button, eh ? So it makes its way onto compendiums such as this. And is forevermore never questioned. It is .... I guess .... just considered law now. As evidenced by FO's willingness to post it as a push-back to what I'd written . Hard to fault him, eh ?
But if we can all agree (by the pencil jockey's own statement) that this is not codified law (ie.: "not illegal"), that this statement (that MDHtalk was so quick to repeat) is merely commentary ? And not "law" .
To be continued :
Another recent thread : "Vacation detecting in W.V." brought up an issue of state parks there. And member Flies-only chimed in with a link from a popular website (a sort of laws compendium) . Here's the post:
http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=289381
Pay special attention to posts #9 to #15, where this unravelled.
And the link that F.O. linked :
http://www.mdhtalk.org/cf/city-regulation.cfm?st=WV
And the particular quote he culled from that link reads :
Metal detecting is not allowed in West Virginia State Parks and Forests. It is not illegal in and of itself but our regulations prohibit the disturbance or removal of any item found. ....
Sounds pretty convincing, eh ? Who can argue with that, eh ? And this particular entity "MDHtalk" has seemingly become a compendium go-to list on the web these days . Not unlike the earlier FMDAC state-by-state web list link. (which harkens back to the pre-internet book "Treasure Laws of the United States" by R. W. Grim).
And no one seems to dispute either the FMDAC or MDHtalk web-links. eh ? After all, someone's "done the homework" already for you. Eh ? After all, "google is your friend". Eh ?
And as an added bonus, notice the interesting suffix to that quote that F.O. drew in :
.... Thanks, WV State Parks
A few things jumped out at me, when I read all of this :
1) Notice how, whomever is speaking .... IS ACKNOWLEDGING that it's not illegal, in-&-of-itself. Hhhhmmm....
2) And then notice that curious suffix salutation : "Thanks, WV parks" Hmmm. What does that suffix salutation tell you ? It tells you that someone (either MDHtalk, or someone whom their citing/quoting), has apparently gone , at some time in the past, to WV state parks dept. and asked about md'ing. And this is merely the reply quotation that the person(s) got back. Can we agree on this ?
Pretty hard to argue with that, eh ? An answer straight from some pencil jockey in-authority, who must've answered the "contact us" tab/button, eh ? So it makes its way onto compendiums such as this. And is forevermore never questioned. It is .... I guess .... just considered law now. As evidenced by FO's willingness to post it as a push-back to what I'd written . Hard to fault him, eh ?
But if we can all agree (by the pencil jockey's own statement) that this is not codified law (ie.: "not illegal"), that this statement (that MDHtalk was so quick to repeat) is merely commentary ? And not "law" .
To be continued :
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