OAK ISLAND

Grizz, let's be totally honest : Even if a skeptic watched every episode, and created detailed explanations for how the "salacious details" have more-plausible explanations, then : Would that *really* drive the faithful to loose faith ? I don't think so. Hence, really then, it's not a matter of someone being up-to-date . The faithful will merely reject any & all pushback, no matter HOW well-versed the skeptic is.
This shows you dont know what you're talking about but want to feel relevant for some reason.

You dont like the show, fine
You want to criticize it you really should be up to date.
And sine you dont like it, why in the world are you so obsessed with it? Or does your obsession revolve around trying to get everyone to think like you on all subjects??
Hey Grizz and gang, y'all will probably enjoy this video. Sure it's "just in fun", but ... it carries a point too ! :)

Yeah somewhat funny but the only point I see being made is people poking fun at others because they have nothing better to do with their lives
 
... why in the world are you so obsessed with it? ...

Good question ! Answer :

Because in the early 1990s, I got swooned into this type fever . An employee of mine (immigrant from Mexico) learned that my hobby was md'ing. So he began to regale me with treasure stories from his home country areas . High in the Sierra madres, in towns that were 300+ yrs. old. They all sounded SSEeeeooo convincing and iron-clad. And , shucks, a metal detector would make child's play out of finding more such treasures there, eh ? :shock:

So I planned and saved and made the trek with him @ his annual return visit. Idea being that I was to be the technical guy (since I had the md'ing experience know-how). And he would be the guide and interpreter to lead to all these "slam dunk" sites.

Yet one by one, they all fell apart. So I began to quiz him about the details he'd spun back in the USA. And one by one, it became obvious that all the salacious details had more plausible explanations. They were all he said /she said campfire legends gone awry. Yet they are so invested in these stories, they grow with each telling. And are always first-person singular, no matter how many levels of telephone game they went through. For example, people who "saw the coins", well ... gee, now that we're down there, and now that I can meet and interview these eye-witnesses. Well ...., it turns out he didn't exactly see them. But he got it on good authority from so & so down the street who saw them. So I hunt down THAT guy. And ... yup ... you guessed it ... He didn't actually see them either. But not to worry, because he got it on good authority from so & so. And so forth back to infinite regression.

I realized that with a little skepticism, I could have saved myself a lot of grief and expense. But I was so swoon by treasure fever (who can resist?), that .... I was blinded. No one wants to be laughed at all-the-way to the bank, so we put critical thinking aside. I fell for it myself.

And so to answer your question : I wondered if the same psychology play isn't EXACTLY what starts the legends we always hear about (albeit 50, 100, or 200 yrs. ago). Eg.: Yamashita, O.I. , lost Dutchman, etc.....

Hope that answers your question :)
 
Good question ! Answer :

Because in the early 1990s, I got swooned into this type fever . An employee of mine (immigrant from Mexico) learned that my hobby was md'ing. So he began to regale me with treasure stories from his home country areas . High in the Sierra madres, in towns that were 300+ yrs. old. They all sounded SSEeeeooo convincing and iron-clad. And , shucks, a metal detector would make child's play out of finding more such treasures there, eh ? :shock:

So I planned and saved and made the trek with him @ his annual return visit. Idea being that I was to be the technical guy (since I had the md'ing experience know-how). And he would be the guide and interpreter to lead to all these "slam dunk" sites.

Yet one by one, they all fell apart. So I began to quiz him about the details he'd spun back in the USA. And one by one, it became obvious that all the salacious details had more plausible explanations. They were all he said /she said campfire legends gone awry. Yet they are so invested in these stories, they grow with each telling. And are always first-person singular, no matter how many levels of telephone game they went through. For example, people who "saw the coins", well ... gee, now that we're down there, and now that I can meet and interview these eye-witnesses. Well ...., it turns out he didn't exactly see them. But he got it on good authority from so & so down the street who saw them. So I hunt down THAT guy. And ... yup ... you guessed it ... He didn't actually see them either. But not to worry, because he got it on good authority from so & so. And so forth back to infinite regression.

I realized that with a little skepticism, I could have saved myself a lot of grief and expense. But I was so swoon by treasure fever (who can resist?), that .... I was blinded. No one wants to be laughed at all-the-way to the bank, so we put critical thinking aside. I fell for it myself.

And so to answer your question : I wondered if the same psychology play isn't EXACTLY what starts the legends we always hear about (albeit 50, 100, or 200 yrs. ago). Eg.: Yamashita, O.I. , lost Dutchman, etc.....

Hope that answers your question :)
Sounds to me like you had a great time and learned something. But from your perspective you were taken advantage of and now you dont trust any treasure stories, I get it...
 
Sounds to me like you had a great time and learned something. ....

Ok. You are being more than civil and kind. Thankyou.

And yes, the food and booze was great ! The women are beautiful ! And I did come back with a couple of coins from the 1800s. But : No caches :badrain:
 
Oak island has been proven for many years to be nothing but a hoax. The most recent hoaxers being the laginas in the scripted fictional realty show, "The curse of oak island".

Albeit for 200 years hoaxers have been able to obtain treasure in the fleecing of investors.

The "money pit", flood tunnels, oak platforms, and 90 foot cryptic stone have all been proven to be fiction.

The fake 90 foot stone was created then "found" when hoaxers were running out of money and needed more investors. After that failed the stone that supposedly held the key to the greatest treasure in history was thrown away and ended up being used in a basement wall.

Robert Dunfield dug the money pit area to great depths and proved nothing was ever there.

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The "mysterious wharf structures" the laginas "discovered" near Smith's Cove were dug up by Robert Dunfield and were found to be common wharf structures. Dunfield also proved that there were never any flood tunnels on the island.

The laginas count on the general public not knowing the history of the hoax as they continue to re-find things found by others before them as well as attempting to attach some fantastical significance to common items left on the island from common human habitation.
 
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Robert Dunfield dug the money pit area to great depths and proved nothing was ever there. ...


No. This isn't true. Robert didn't prove anything. Because: Robert *didn't dig deep enough*

Or : A little more to the right, or a little more to the left, etc...

But at NO POINT, is there *not* a fabulous treasure there !! After all, how ELSE do you explain the "road in the swamp" . Huh ? HUH ? :?:
 
No. This isn't true. Robert didn't prove anything. Because: Robert *didn't dig deep enough*

Or : A little more to the right, or a little more to the left, etc...

But at NO POINT, is there *not* a fabulous treasure there !! After all, how ELSE do you explain the "road in the swamp" . Huh ? HUH ? :?:
Don't you have a permissions thread to go question? :laughing:


Rumor has it the extraterrestrials created that road :yes:
 
I like the show, that being said, do I believe there's a curse where one more must die? Absolutely not. Do I think there's a booby trapped shaft? Sure, it was documented. Is there a treasure? Don't know, but for the Laguina's sake, I hope so, they're in up to their necks in money there. Did something happen on that island? Yes, but what, again who knows, maybe they'll find out, keep watching.
 
I like the show, that being said, do I believe there's a curse where one more must die? Absolutely not. Do I think there's a booby trapped shaft? Sure, it was documented. Is there a treasure? Don't know, but for the Laguina's sake, I hope so, they're in up to their necks in money there. Did something happen on that island? Yes, but what, again who knows, maybe they'll find out, keep watching.
The road in the swamp is what got me, thats too cool
 
The only fortune on that island is the fortune that's left investors hands over the years. Oh and the one the show makes that fuels the endless cycle of "Hey I think we found something" Just to find out the next episode THAT something was actually another clue to the REAL something. which again, was nothing.

This forum would make a better TV show. At least we would have real treasures. Just in case anyone gets any thoughts of turning this into a TV show, I thought of it first.:laughing:
 
.... Did something happen on that island? Yes, ....

Well, sure. And so too do "things happen" at every inch of land in the USA. And if you imagine long enough and hard enough, to search for clues, you can likewise develop a potential treasure, at any location you can point me to. I can find things that are old, out of place, curious, that "could point to treasure". And then if you give me time, I can likewise find something from local history of that area that could have lent itself to the need for someone to have buried treasure. Eg.: There was an old emigrant route that passed by. Or ships were known to have plied these waters. Or so & so pioneer was said to have died with $$ unaccounted for. And so on, and so forth.

I could create a narrative for my own backyard, and assemble salacious details that 'point to treasure'.
 
Tom is like most everyone who already know the outcomes of the episodes and seasons without ever watching.
 
5-6 seasons ago, even Dave Blankenship admitted nothing was ever there when asked at the end of the episodes about bore hole 10-x if he thought a treasure was on the island.

His admission was edited out for re-runs.

There was also a fact filled website that contained empirical evidence about the island and the history of treasure hunters over the years. All of the evidence proved there was no treasure. The laginas purchased the site and removed all evidence conflicting with their fictional tales. That act right there should convince folks it all a hoax.
 
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