Newbie from Canada

[Twiggy]

Hello there,

Metal detecting is something I have thought of sometimes over the years, but I haven't got around to yet. But I am deciding to finally get around to, as spring and warmer weather is coming, it was literally 10 Celsius today.

I was always put off, because I do not have a ton of money and I kept seeing prices that were extremely high, but now I see some that are within $100-$300 Canadian, so I can most-likely afford those.

So far, I have learnt of the bounty hunter tracker IV, which is the cheapest, then the Fisher F11, and now the Fisher F44.

I see this site has it on sale now, along with what I think is a pin-pointer? https://canadiantreasureseekers.com/product/fisher-f44-with-11dd-coil-and-f-pulse/

I'm mainly going to be searching in parks/forest/fields and historical sites, as I am fortunate to live in a very historical area, in Niagara where we have lots of forts, and battles, mostly connected to the war of 1812, but also some Irish Fenian battles as well, when they invaded Canada to try to force the British into something.

I have a budget of about $250 Canadian with tax for a detector itself, and maybe $50 for a pin pointer.

Of course due to living on a few acres of land and a hobby farm, I already have digging tools, and I have bags that I can carry any finds in.

Are there any other detectors I should look at that I haven't found yet, before I make a purchase decision?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Welcome from California.

 

[Leave-No-Coins-Behind]

Welcome from PA, USA!

 

[CountyWorker]

Call Bart at BigBoysHobbies and talk to him about these two detectors and what he can do for you in your price range with a decent pinpointer.

You have to call for the best price.

https://bigboyshobbies.net/products/minelab-vanquish-440-metal-detector

https://bigboyshobbies.net/products/nokta-double-score

 

[hoser]

Welcome from Northern lower Michigan. Good to have ya here.

 

[motherlode333]

Hello there,

Metal detecting is something I have thought of sometimes over the years, but I haven't got around to yet. But I am deciding to finally get around to, as spring and warmer weather is coming, it was literally 10 Celsius today.

I was always put off, because I do not have a ton of money and I kept seeing prices that were extremely high, but now I see some that are within $100-$300 Canadian, so I can most-likely afford those.

So far, I have learnt of the bounty hunter tracker IV, which is the cheapest, then the Fisher F11, and now the Fisher F44.

I see this site has it on sale now, along with what I think is a pin-pointer? https://canadiantreasureseekers.com/product/fisher-f44-with-11dd-coil-and-f-pulse/

I'm mainly going to be searching in parks/forest/fields and historical sites, as I am fortunate to live in a very historical area, in Niagara where we have lots of forts, and battles, mostly connected to the war of 1812, but also some Irish Fenian battles as well, when they invaded Canada to try to force the British into something.

I have a budget of about $250 Canadian with tax for a detector itself, and maybe $50 for a pin pointer.

Of course due to living on a few acres of land and a hobby farm, I already have digging tools, and I have bags that I can carry any finds in.

Are there any other detectors I should look at that I haven't found yet, before I make a purchase decision?

FYI Twiggy - it is illegal to metal detect parks, forests, fields and historical sites in the Niagara region with serious consequences. These are all off limits and it is not a free for all. Being a newbie, please please know your laws and rules or you will ruin it for other hobbiests. Pursue private properties and always always obtain permission in writing if you can to avoid serious backlash and legal matters.

 

[jimther]

Welcome from Boston, Twiggy !

 

[Cherry Picker]

Welcome from Dodge City

 

[Steve]

Hello there,

Metal detecting is something I have thought of sometimes over the years, but I haven't got around to yet. But I am deciding to finally get around to, as spring and warmer weather is coming, it was literally 10 Celsius today.

I was always put off, because I do not have a ton of money and I kept seeing prices that were extremely high, but now I see some that are within $100-$300 Canadian, so I can most-likely afford those.

So far, I have learnt of the bounty hunter tracker IV, which is the cheapest, then the Fisher F11, and now the Fisher F44.

I see this site has it on sale now, along with what I think is a pin-pointer? https://canadiantreasureseekers.com/product/fisher-f44-with-11dd-coil-and-f-pulse/

I'm mainly going to be searching in parks/forest/fields and historical sites, as I am fortunate to live in a very historical area, in Niagara where we have lots of forts, and battles, mostly connected to the war of 1812, but also some Irish Fenian battles as well, when they invaded Canada to try to force the British into something.

I have a budget of about $250 Canadian with tax for a detector itself, and maybe $50 for a pin pointer.

Of course due to living on a few acres of land and a hobby farm, I already have digging tools, and I have bags that I can carry any finds in.

Are there any other detectors I should look at that I haven't found yet, before I make a purchase decision?

there is a lake near you where families and partygoers have been visiting for decades. don't rule out water hunting just yet. gotta be some gold sitting there and i've never seen anyone post from there.

 

[hunter1]

Welcome from Maryland

 

[History Hound 1]

Another warm welcome from Michigan - best of luck on your hunts

 

[Twiggy]

FYI Twiggy - it is illegal to metal detect parks, forests, fields and historical sites in the Niagara region with serious consequences. These are all off limits and it is not a free for all. Being a newbie, please please know your laws and rules or you will ruin it for other hobbiests. Pursue private properties and always always obtain permission in writing if you can to avoid serious backlash and legal matters.

I got a few private property permissions, and one city said that the beaches are perfectly fine to detect, at least for that city.

but your right in general none of the cities seem to allow it, or allow it but not digging (so what's the point)? I heard one does, but I am yet to hear back from them, even though I contacted them 2 weeks ago.

 

[AceS]

I got a few private property permissions, and one city said that the beaches are perfectly fine to detect, at least for that city.

but your right in general none of the cities seem to allow it, or allow it but not digging (so what's the point)? I heard one does, but I am yet to hear back from them, even though I contacted them 2 weeks ago.

I’ve had some luck contacting businesses that have a lot of land they don’t use. They might make you sign a waiver. it’s definitely tough getting permissions and it will take some time until one day you hit gold and they allow you to detect. Don't give up.

 

[leslie(nova scotia)]

Hello there,

Metal detecting is something I have thought of sometimes over the years, but I haven't got around to yet. But I am deciding to finally get around to, as spring and warmer weather is coming, it was literally 10 Celsius today.

I was always put off, because I do not have a ton of money and I kept seeing prices that were extremely high, but now I see some that are within $100-$300 Canadian, so I can most-likely afford those.

So far, I have learnt of the bounty hunter tracker IV, which is the cheapest, then the Fisher F11, and now the Fisher F44.

I see this site has it on sale now, along with what I think is a pin-pointer? https://canadiantreasureseekers.com/product/fisher-f44-with-11dd-coil-and-f-pulse/

I'm mainly going to be searching in parks/forest/fields and historical sites, as I am fortunate to live in a very historical area, in Niagara where we have lots of forts, and battles, mostly connected to the war of 1812, but also some Irish Fenian battles as well, when they invaded Canada to try to force the British into something.

I have a budget of about $250 Canadian with tax for a detector itself, and maybe $50 for a pin pointer.

Of course due to living on a few acres of land and a hobby farm, I already have digging tools, and I have bags that I can carry any finds in.

Are there any other detectors I should look at that I haven't found yet, before I make a purchase decision?

Hello fellow Canuck. Save the $50 to add to get to another better machine. Pin pointers are for folks who do not know how to operate their machines or are too lazy to get down to the ground. At the hobby 58 years and never use one. Good luck and look forward to reading about your adventures. Be sure to read the detecting code of ethics.

Life is a beach at least till the tide comes up and the Bud is all gone!

 

[Diga]

Pin pointers are for folks who do not know how to operate their machines or are too lazy to get down to the ground. At the hobby 58 years and never use one.

A couple of times I went out on a hunt and forgot my pinpointer. I went back home and got it.

Using a pinpointer has nothing to do with being lazy or knowing how to operate a metal detector. Pinpointers make target retrieval much cleaner and much faster.

Twiggy,

Get a pinpointer. Since your budget is around $50 for a pinpointer, get this one if you want new:

Pinpointer

 

[Twiggy]

A couple of times I went out on a hunt and forgot my pinpointer. I went back home and got it.

Using a pinpointer has nothing to do with being lazy or knowing how to operate a metal detector. Pinpointers make target retrieval much cleaner and much faster.

Twiggy,

Get a pinpointer. Since your budget is around $50 for a pinpointer, get this one if you want new:

Pinpointer

This thread is somewhat old now.

I have one, as you may now form my other posts.

 

[Cherry Picker]

I've been swinging a detector for roughly 50 years. A pinpointer makes the difference between me going home with 15 recoveries or 30 recoveries. We all know detecting is a game of odds. The more recoveries you make, the higher the odds of finding more keepers.

 

[CountyWorker]

Hello fellow Canuck. Save the $50 to add to get to another better machine. Pin pointers are for folks who do not know how to operate their machines or are too lazy to get down to the ground. At the hobby 58 years and never use one.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

......
but your right in general none of the cities seem to allow it, or allow it but not digging (so what's the point)? I heard one does, but I am yet to hear back from them, even though I contacted them 2 weeks ago.

When you say " .... yet to hear back from them ...." : I take that to mean that you're calling (or emailing or whatever) various cities, and waiting to get their "green light" ? If so, you are just going to risk becoming the latest victim of : "No one cared UNTIL you asked" routine And presto : Another law, rule, or policy is-born

If you are skittish, why not simply looking up laws/rules for yourself ? And if it doesn't say "no metal detecting", THEN PRESTO : Not prohibited. Ie.: municipal codes and laws, and park rules, are "no secret" in this wonderful digital age that we live in. Eg.: Dogs on leash, no fireworks, etc......

As for someone telling you "no digging", they might also refer you to language that disallows "alter" and "deface". That is BOILER PLATE obligatory for EVERY speck of public land. So if that automatically disallows md'ing, then : Every single park would be off-limits to md'ing. But as you can see , via the show & tell here, that : MD'ing is common place on (gasp) public land everywhere.

Here's the rationale : Verbiage like "alter" and "deface" refer to the end result . RIGHT ? So if you cover, stomp, and fluff up your spots (leave no trace), then presto : You have not alterED or defacED anything. Now have you ? And yes I would apply the same logic to dIg vs dUg. It's just that we don't spell it diggED .

Now will every last busy-body lookie-lou agree with the above semantics ? Of course not. So go at lower traffic times and avoid such individual busy-bodies.

 

[AceS]

When you say " .... yet to hear back from them ...." : I take that to mean that you're calling (or emailing or whatever) various cities, and waiting to get their "green light" ? If so, you are just going to risk becoming the latest victim of : "No one cared UNTIL you asked" routine And presto : Another law, rule, or policy is-born

If you are skittish, why not simply looking up laws/rules for yourself ? And if it doesn't say "no metal detecting", THEN PRESTO : Not prohibited. Ie.: municipal codes and laws, and park rules, are "no secret" in this wonderful digital age that we live in. Eg.: Dogs on leash, no fireworks, etc......

As for someone telling you "no digging", they might also refer you to language that disallows "alter" and "deface". That is BOILER PLATE obligatory for EVERY speck of public land. So if that automatically disallows md'ing, then : Every single park would be off-limits to md'ing. But as you can see , via the show & tell here, that : MD'ing is common place on (gasp) public land everywhere.

Here's the rationale : Verbiage like "alter" and "deface" refer to the end result . RIGHT ? So if you cover, stomp, and fluff up your spots (leave no trace), then presto : You have not alterED or defacED anything. Now have you ? And yes I would apply the same logic to dIg vs dUg. It's just that we don't spell it diggED .

Now will every last busy-body lookie-lou agree with the above semantics ? Of course not. So go at lower traffic times and avoid such individual busy-bodies.

A lot of these stupid rules are from metal detector thugs that pop a plug and leave it open. Sucks but that’s honestly with every activity.