Mason jar lid dates?

[Jose159]

I find quite a few of these and wondering if there is any way to date them? Occasionally I will find one with no markings

 

[stetam]

1930’s forward

 

[Jelly_936]

Mason jar or similar can date back to sometime in the mid to late 1860s. Those are fairly uncommon, at least in my area, but do turn up now and then.

Yours appears to be much newer. Post 1900 for sure.

Generally you can run a picture of the maker mark through google lens or a similar ai powered search and it will tell you pretty quickly. If not there are websites out there with pictures to date them.

Here is a recent example of one I turned up that is older. Consolidated Fruit Probably late 1870s-1880s.

Here is a link that can be helpful: https://secure-sha.org/bottle/pdffiles/ConsolidatedFruitJar.pdf

 

[BullBat]

The maker's mark, H over A, belongs to Hazel-Atlas Glass Company (1902-1964.) https://glassbottlemarks.com/hazel-atlas-glass-company/

 

[JCR]

Here is some info on the Jar script and Zinc lids that secure the porcelain seal discs.

 

[Jose159]

Mason jar or similar can date back to sometime in the mid to late 1860s. Those are fairly uncommon, at least in my area, but do turn up now and then.

Yours appears to be much newer. Post 1900 for sure.

Generally you can run a picture of the maker mark through google lens or a similar ai powered search and it will tell you pretty quickly. If not there are websites out there with pictures to date them.

Here is a recent example of one I turned up that is older. Consolidated Fruit Probably late 1870s-1880s.

Here is a link that can be helpful: https://secure-sha.org/bottle/pdffiles/ConsolidatedFruitJar.pdf

excellent !Thanks

 

[Jose159]

Here is some info on the Jar script and Zinc lids that secure the porcelain seal discs.

That's gonna help a lot as I have found some of those at late 1800s locations

 

[Jose159]

The maker's mark, H over A, belongs to Hazel-Atlas Glass Company (1902-1964.) https://glassbottlemarks.com/hazel-atlas-glass-company/

Awesome! I am getting some great info here! Thanks

 

[old-raven]

The maker's mark, H over A, belongs to Hazel-Atlas Glass Company (1902-1964.) https://glassbottlemarks.com/hazel-atlas-glass-company/

The h over a logo didn't come into use until 1923 even though the company was around after '02

 

[old-raven]

So, in terms of the site these came from do we have any context? What's the average age of finds from the site? Any history about it you can tell us? Were the seals all found in the same area and or same depth? Details if any exist?
The problem with these milk glass seals is that they were made in HUGE numbers from the mid/late 1800s up to the 60s though I think Presto specifically may actually still make these in clear glass but don't quote me on that. The Hazel Atlas one is not one second older than 1923, the classic H over A logo didn't appear until '23. With stuff like this your only hope of finding date range is in how well you've noted site/find context. Need more info to try to date glass seals, like, ever.

 

[Jose159]

I find these things often in villages and homesteads that were abandoned long before the 1920's. I rarely detect in modern sites.

 

[old-raven]

I find these things often in villages and homesteads that were abandoned long before the 1920's. I rarely detect in modern sites.

Well the two without the HA logo are basically impossible to pin any date on without any other information unfortunately. Some time between mid 1800s to mid 1900s. The one with the stamp is definitely after 1923 but exactly when is the real mystery. I recently found a couple of these, one just like your Hazel Atlas actually. I've been able to narrow them down to 1930s to 40s but only because of the context they were found in, the thing to remember is that by the time they were discarded they could easily have been decades old so even though I can say the two I have were dumped by 30s-40s the actual dates are unknown and will probably remain that way. I know the Hazel Atlas is after 1923 but that's it. These old milk glass canning seals are notoriously difficult to put dates on. On the plus side though they are considered collectable despite there being millions of them out there. Folks who can as a hobby often times like them for the vintage touch. Normally they sell for about 50 cents to a buck each but I've seen some sources that say $5 for those in good condition. If you have a ton of them you might consider putting them on eBay or similar, you might be able to shake them off if you wanted to. I think they're cool old bits of history, I collect old bottles so things like this are up my ally for sure. Good finds by the way!

 

[Jose159]

Thanks! I have about 30 of them and started keeping them thinking they would be nice for plinking with a 22 but I never destroyed any. Sometimes I have a hard time separating them from the lids and sometimes the lids are so far gone that the glass falls right out.

 

[stetam]

Never use them for canning. Old milk glass lids contain lead.

 

[old-raven]

Thanks! I have about 30 of them and started keeping them thinking they would be nice for plinking with a 22 but I never destroyed any. Sometimes I have a hard time separating them from the lids and sometimes the lids are so far gone that the glass falls right out.

Yeah, they aren't worth much in terms of money but a lot of trash diggers hoard them anyway and then sell them. If I ever amass a quantity of them I'll probably use them as part of a decorative project or similar. Neat old bit of history, I think they look cool if nothing else.

 

[Jose159]

Yeah, they aren't worth much in terms of money but a lot of trash diggers hoard them anyway and then sell them. If I ever amass a quantity of them I'll probably use them as part of a decorative project or similar. Neat old bit of history, I think they look cool if nothing el

If you think of a decorative project...let me know. There is just something cool about them.

 

[old-raven]

If you think of a decorative project...let me know. There is just something cool about them.

Idea 1: set them in a resin table top

 

[Jose159]

Wheels are turning. lol