Worked a lot this summer, and now I can go exploring again. These are my new few finds. Like to hear what you think ,people with the same opsession 
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cellrdwellr
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Great finds, congrats!
VirginiaBikeGirl
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Lokito, are you in Hungary or nearby? What do your laws say about detecting? We hear scary things about much of Europe.
MasonDixonMding
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Cool stuff.
Thank you
I am in Croatia and the law is strict about detecting near any historical significant objects wich I wouldn't do anyway..But no one will tell you anything if you detect in diffrent areas. I have a friend who is arheologist so I tell her whenever I found anything old.
Tom_in_CA
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VirginiaBikeGirl, heres an odd story about that ^ ^
Years ago, someone from Britain went on a vacation, to a beach resort in Spain. In one of Spain's coastal tourist cities. He took his metal detector along. And when he checked into his hotel, he asked the desk clerk whether or not it was ok to metal detect the beach. The clerk just looked at him, shrugged his shoulders and said "I don't see why not".
So the guy walked out to the beach, and happen-chance saw a cop along the street. And asked the cop. And got the same type indifferent bewildered response.
Then he noticed another md'r, off in the distance, so ... he figured : Must be ok. And for that entire week, of his vacation, he detected the beach. When he got back to Britain, he posted a show & tell post of his finds (a few gold rings, etc...) . And said "found @ such & such resort beach in Spain...."
After the usual "atteboys" , someone else posted saying : "I thought it was illegal in Spain". And : "we hear scary things..." etc.... And they proceeded to post a picture, out of a page in a book, where ... sure as heck ... "dire sounding things" about Spain.
It was out of a compendium book, some author had made. Which attempted to detail the laws of all the different European countries, regarding md'ing. And some (most ?) of them had dire sounding verbiage. 
But the md'r told of how he'd asked around. And how he'd seen other md'rs. And how he was in full broad view of anyone and everyone, and : No one so much as said "Boo" to him.
And other md'rs from Spain also chimed in on that thread to say : "Not a problem".SO THEN : What do we make of some author's ability to find "dire sound wording/laws/verbiage" ? To be continued in the next post :
Tom_in_CA
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Apparently the way that author of that md'ing laws compendium book, got his information , was to simply ask the various countries. I mean, shucks, WHO BETTER TO ASK , than the authorities there themselves eh ? 
Or inquire of the border consulate or lawyer, etc... Or perhaps something was already on-the-net, and he just copies and pastes that (which, itself, was ALSO probably gleaned from someone prior to that : "Asking a desk jockey").
Are you beginning to see the problem already ? ^ ^ Whomever was answering this "pressing question" could have couched it in terms of federal land (but that would have no bearing on private land, with permission). Or had an image of "raiding the pyramids", yet no one gives 2 hoots about modern change on the beach. Or couched it in terms of shipwreck salvor laws (ie.: exporting gold bars across borders, blah blah).
It would be no different than if you asked enough purist archies, in the USA : "Can I metal detect in the USA ?", I bet you could likewise find some to say "No". And cite something silly like ARPA. Yet we all know that as long as you're not snooping around obvious historic sensitive monuments, then NO ONE is applying ARPA here. Or they might cite lost & found laws, or "alter and deface", etc... Yet as you know : You can detect here till you're blue in the face, as long as you use common sense.
Another story next :
Or inquire of the border consulate or lawyer, etc... Or perhaps something was already on-the-net, and he just copies and pastes that (which, itself, was ALSO probably gleaned from someone prior to that : "Asking a desk jockey").Are you beginning to see the problem already ? ^ ^ Whomever was answering this "pressing question" could have couched it in terms of federal land (but that would have no bearing on private land, with permission). Or had an image of "raiding the pyramids", yet no one gives 2 hoots about modern change on the beach. Or couched it in terms of shipwreck salvor laws (ie.: exporting gold bars across borders, blah blah).
It would be no different than if you asked enough purist archies, in the USA : "Can I metal detect in the USA ?", I bet you could likewise find some to say "No". And cite something silly like ARPA. Yet we all know that as long as you're not snooping around obvious historic sensitive monuments, then NO ONE is applying ARPA here. Or they might cite lost & found laws, or "alter and deface", etc... Yet as you know : You can detect here till you're blue in the face, as long as you use common sense.
Another story next :
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Next story :
About 20+ Years ago, I listed an older model Fisher metal detector on Ebay. To my dismay, the winning bidder was someone from EUROPE !
I really didn't want the hassle of shipping to Europe, but ... since I had failed to specify "USA only", I was bound to honor the deal. The buyer pre-paid for everything, including handsome $ for overseas shipping. Apparently this was a type of Fisher machine that hunters, in his area, favor. And could only be found on the used market. Thus : No sweat off my back.
But my curiosity got the better of me : I looked up his particular European country , in the compendium book, and saw that it had dire sounding wording. If not outright "no" (I forget which country now). So .... I decided to poke the bear and showed him the captured scan of that page. Asking him : "How do you detect in your country. Doesn't this wording make it a no-no ?"
To which he said that what I was citing , was for public land. But that you could detect private land there (farmers land with permission) to your heart's content.
But what's strange is, THE BOOK MAKES NO SUCH DISTINCTION ! A casual reading, of the laws cited in the book, make it *seem* like : Border to border . But the guy assured me there's plenty of md'ing going on. There was even a club in his town (this was ~20+ yrs. ago).
And he added that, ...... quite frankly ... uh ... when they detect that they are "so far back in the boonies" that there's no one around, to care, in the first place.
So the bottom line is : I think that most all of the "dire sounding stuff " you read, came about by past md'rs swatting hornet's nests. Becoming victims of "No one cared UNTIL you asked". And yes, this psychology phenomenon can occur even on a country-wide scale.
About 20+ Years ago, I listed an older model Fisher metal detector on Ebay. To my dismay, the winning bidder was someone from EUROPE !
I really didn't want the hassle of shipping to Europe, but ... since I had failed to specify "USA only", I was bound to honor the deal. The buyer pre-paid for everything, including handsome $ for overseas shipping. Apparently this was a type of Fisher machine that hunters, in his area, favor. And could only be found on the used market. Thus : No sweat off my back.But my curiosity got the better of me : I looked up his particular European country , in the compendium book, and saw that it had dire sounding wording. If not outright "no" (I forget which country now). So .... I decided to poke the bear and showed him the captured scan of that page. Asking him : "How do you detect in your country. Doesn't this wording make it a no-no ?"
To which he said that what I was citing , was for public land. But that you could detect private land there (farmers land with permission) to your heart's content.
But what's strange is, THE BOOK MAKES NO SUCH DISTINCTION ! A casual reading, of the laws cited in the book, make it *seem* like : Border to border . But the guy assured me there's plenty of md'ing going on. There was even a club in his town (this was ~20+ yrs. ago).
And he added that, ...... quite frankly ... uh ... when they detect that they are "so far back in the boonies" that there's no one around, to care, in the first place.
So the bottom line is : I think that most all of the "dire sounding stuff " you read, came about by past md'rs swatting hornet's nests. Becoming victims of "No one cared UNTIL you asked". And yes, this psychology phenomenon can occur even on a country-wide scale.
VirginiaBikeGirl
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Yep - I totally get this.Next story :
About 20+ Years ago, I listed an older model Fisher metal detector on Ebay. To my dismay, the winning bidder was someone from EUROPE !
But my curiosity got the better of me : I looked up his particular European country , in the compendium book, and saw that it had dire sounding wording. If not outright "no" (I forget which country now). So .... I decided to poke the bear and showed him the captured scan of that page. Asking him : "How do you detect in your country. Doesn't this wording make it a no-no ?"
To which he said that what I was citing , was for public land. But that you could detect private land there (farmers land with permission) to your heart's content.
But what's strange is, THE BOOK MAKES NO SUCH DISTINCTION ! A casual reading, of the laws cited in the book, make it *seem* like : Border to border . But the guy assured me there's plenty of md'ing going on. There was even a club in his town (this was ~20+ yrs. ago).
And he added that, ...... quite frankly ... uh ... when they detect that they are "so far back in the boonies" that there's no one around, to care, in the first place.
So the bottom line is : I think that most all of the "dire sounding stuff " you read, came about by past md'rs swatting hornet's nests. Becoming victims of "No one cared UNTIL you asked". And yes, this psychology phenomenon can occur even on a country-wide scale.
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Nice finds!
Digger RJ
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Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!Worked a lot this summer, and now I can go exploring again. These are my new few finds. Like to hear what you think ,people with the same opsession
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