1835 Military Naval Coin, Please Help

accteam

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Hello,

I really need help with this one. I found this coin about the size of a quarter, maybe a bit bigger. Its very hard to make out what it fully says on both sides. So keep in mind that I might have wrote what I thought to be the right letter/word but could be wrong.

' * ' Stands for: not sure what the letter is, also just because I put one ' * ' does not mean its for only 1 letter. Meaning there might be a group of letters I cant read and I'm not sure how many letters are there. Example:
Correct Word ' Sporting ' but if cannot read it, I might put ' **rting '

Starting with the front of the coin, at the top, going around the rim it reads ' Amer*** ' then
next to it reads: ' ***suitute ' (The ' U ' after the ' S ' might be a ' V ' Because I noticed what looks like a line under it)

Still looking at the front of the coin...at the bottom it reads: ' NEW YORK '

Looking at the back of the coin, this is where it becomes hard to make sense. Starting from the top:
'***** ' A GOLD ' *** '
AWARDED TO
RAW ROBINSON
FOR THE BEST
MILITARY NAVAL
SPORTING
PLAINFLAT ( I'm not sure but on the coin it looks like there might be 1 letter in front of the ' P ' )
BUTTONS
1835 ( The second # is kind of worn, looks like it could be a 3 but I cant see this coin coming from 1335 )

Sorry if this all reads a little confusing. If there are any questions, please let me know. I tried searching online, but had no luck. My son and I were metal detecting and he was the one who found this piece and he is very interested in find out. The other things we found in the area of the coin, that might help you to figure it out, are:

About 23 or so musket balls, 8 military buttons, 1830 5 cent piece and 1803 European piece. Also, these items were only found in a small square area about the size of half a football field. I tried searching outside of this area, in a grid pattern and found nothing....very strange!


1835front2wi.jpg

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Again, sorry for writing so much. I want to thank you ahead of time for helping us out. Looking forward to hearing back.


Jon
 
How about this idea:

You know that there are various fairs, exhibitions etc. where various products are graded and medals are awarded.
My thought is that this Robinson was a button manufacturer and they got an award at some commercial event. The text on the pic side could be ' institute'? So some New Yorkian institute was giving out awards.

Now another wild guess. Maybe the place where you have found all those goodies was a depot area? And this Robinson provided buttons for the army. So this 'coin' could have been inside a box of buttons to prove the high quality of the product.

Voriax
 
Wow great find, I'd be thrilled with that.
Congrats to your son.
American Institute, New York 1835 hmmm. Take a look at this http://tinyurl.com/o459n
This might be the organization that awarded this token.
 
Heres a follow up, for what its worth.
I posted a pic of your find in alt.binaries.pictures.numismatic [for those familair with the usenet]. Lots of knowlegable folks there, and one gent replied as follows:

" It's a U.S. Hard Times Token from 1835 advertising R & W Robinson of Attleboro,
MA. It looks like HT #155, a common variety which books for about $5.00 in VG
condition. However, in the condition yours is in, it would best be valued as a
darn nice find. Still a keeper, if I had found it, and I collect these tokens."

If true, I wouldn't be discouraged at all.
As he said, you found a very nice keeper, regardless of BV.
 
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