SirDigsALOT!
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I like the Bermuda triangle show better. At least they find stuff and identify things.
Yet another silly season of "The Curse of Oak Island" coming up!
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Left out, "HOAX"
What "might" be found is the appeal to watching the show and how they go about searching for it is maybe more appealing to me.
To say "nothing is there" is really pointless? What is there is a group of dedicated, seemingly decent folks who are determined to find out one way or the other if anything is there. They admit to not knowing what if anything is there, or why the things that are found are there. They work hard, they work smart, they spend big, they get paid well and they continue to stick with it. I think most rational people understand the reality of the situation and despite the results thus far, are just as pleased that the show continues on. Expectations are what it's really about. If one only expects to find treasure in every episode and nothing else from the experience - I suppose they would be disappointed. Nobody can deny that the show appeals to a large audience. Count me among them.
I suppose one would only know this if they were watching every episode.
FreeBirdTim
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Haven't watched a full episode since season two, so your supposition is incorrect. I know this because I see the previews every week while I'm watching "American Pickers". Every preview shows them digging with a huge backhoe or drilling hundreds of feet down to pull out a core sample. "The wood there in the core is from the 1600's!" Sorry, but it isn't...
FreeBirdTim
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Most rational people stopped watching this garbage at least five years ago...
FreeBirdTim
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No, it's logical. Would any of us here metal detect the same area for 11 years, come up empty every time and still hope to find anything? Of course not. They keep digging and drilling to collect their fat paycheck. They knew after a couple of seasons that the treasure was either long gone or was never there in the first place.
No, its a lazy argument and an easy way to say, because you don't enjoy it, nobody should. The ratings don't lie. Its an enjoyable show to a large audience despite whether or not anything is ever found.
Tom_in_CA
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Good point. Ok, let's compromise : 1) Some people find it entertaining, and 2) nothing has been nor will ever be found. Presto, problem solved.
Glad you brought "Pickers" into the conversation. I see previews for that show when I'm watching Oak Island. They all show guys walking into a hoard of antiques and collectables and making deals to buy stuff. I enjoy that show as well. I continue to watch it since season 1 despite widespread reports that the show is "staged". Again, rational folks know there is going to be a script for a TV show, it doesn't change the fact that the show is enjoyable and that the subject matter and characters involved are interesting and entertaining. If for instance, someone were to tell you there really never was an actual barn find on American Pickers would it really bring you stop watching something you enjoy?
FreeBirdTim
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People enjoy watching other worthless shows like "Jersey Shore", but that doesn't mean it isn't trash TV. Your weak argument that it's enjoyable misses my original point of this thread. Every week they're claiming to have found something "historic", but all they ever find is junk. Trying to call a piece of junk "treasure" is what makes the show classic trash TV.
"Could it be these coconut husks were from the 1700's?" Of course not. Laughable that they made a big deal about this find!
"Could it be this rusty nail once held a pirate treasure chest together?" Of couse not. Old nails are common as dirt everywhere in this area. I've found at least 500 hand wrought nails metal detecting. Many are probably from the 1700's, since they were found at colonial cellar holes.
"Could it be this gold gilt button is real gold?" Of course not. This was just a bald-faced lie. They knew it was just a gold gilt button, but they claimed to have found gold with this one to get people to watch the episode.
'Could it be this lead cross belonged to the Knights Templar?" Of course not. Impossible to date something like that. To state that is asinine.
"Could it be this iron spike was part of a pirate ship or a wharf?" Of course not. I find iron spikes all the time. Nothing to do with any ship or wharf.
"Could it be this Spanish coin was from pirate treasure?" Of course not. I've found five 1700's Spanish reales and none of them had anything to do with pirate treasure.
You get my point. This show is garbage, plain and simple.
Coin-Saver
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Just because an idea is popular in no way makes it right. I don't think a single person here is upset that the show is popular. For me it is actually funny to see how far people will go to defend their favorite TV shows. it's TV, it's entertainment. If finding NOTHING entertains people well then, Have at it. Hell if I had that mindset I'd be tickled $h!tle$$ to find nothing but pull tabs, bottle caps and rusted nails.
It would be one thing to convince myself that I'd find something good next time out but to tell myself every piece of crap I find proves there is a templar treasure there is nonsense. As far as an argument goes....You'll never have one from me about this show. I have no problem with people finding it entertaining Or even Believable for that matter. I just happen to find it neither.
Tom_in_CA
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Tim, he's apparently not disagreeing with you that "nothing will, or ever has, been found there". So if that's true, then : Neither of you disagrees, and both of you agrees. Instead the issue seems to be : Can it be enjoyable DESPITE this truth-ism.
And I know where you're coming from that : You and I think alike that the show CAN NOT, and SHOULD NOT be "enjoyable", UNLESS there were a sliver of hope of the whole-point-of-the-show, IN THE FIRST PLACE. Right ? So you and I therefore can not understand why anyone else would enjoy this.
I too can not understand why/how someone could grant that there never was, nor ever will be : Treasure there, yet in the next breath say : "I enjoy it". To me that merely means that , subconsciously , deep down, they *really do* opine that there's some past or present treasure there. But simply aren't 'fessing up.
But as much as this appears to be a contradiction, cut some slack bro. At least he's granting the fact of "no treasure". And hey, wouldn't it be a little like Gilligan's Island TV show, where WE KNEW it was all make believe , yet (drum roll) we enjoyed watching it anyhow ?
treasureguy56
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your opinion and your welcome to it - dont watch the show if thats how you feel right . No one will argue with you , you may even be right . Does it really matter on the grand scale of things ? Nope
Have a good day
treasureguy56
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Let me ask you all this question , who the heck cares ? you guys keep this insane argument up for what reason - does it bother some of you that some folks find entertainment in the show , do you feel threatened by the fact some people get entertainment value out of the show . Jesus , leave it alone already and move on to that gold coin were all seeking .Hey there Free-Bird-Tim: Who ever said there was an "it", in the first place ? The only thing this statement says/assumes, is that there was ever a "fabulous treasure" IN THE FIRST PLACE. Ok, says who ??
too_pointer
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Hello guy56 I'm from Grayling, Mi. I actually lived for a summer in Owosso, with a cousin, don't remember much, ( must of had a good time ). !! Yup Iv'e been known to watch The curse Show myself, like the detecting and digging, I'm watching American Pickers right now, lol And how do they know what is found or dug up, if they don't watch it ?
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The persons who "the heck cares", are the persons who think that the reason OTHER persons "care", is because they must think there is, or was, a treasure there. And since we can all agree there isn't/wasn't a treasure there, then : Those who "care" , think the others should not like the show.
But I'm willing to compromise : You're right : To each his own. You're right about debating the issue of "caring". But if the debate is not about "caring" and becomes : "Is there or was there a treasure", then yes : I'm tossing my hat into the ring for a good round of debate
too_pointer
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The persons who "the heck cares", are the persons who think that the reason OTHER persons "care", is because they must think there is, or was, a treasure there. And since we can all agree there isn't/wasn't a treasure there, then : Those who "care" , think the others should not like the show.
But I'm willing to compromise : You're right : To each his own. You're right about debating the issue of "caring". But if the debate is not about "caring" and becomes : "Is there or was there a treasure", then yes : I'm tossing my hat into the ring for a good round of debate
too_
Coin-Saver
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It's funny because I just purposely watched (and Lord knows why) a clip of Marty and Rick talking about being close to the treasure. So this idea that no one on the show even claimed there was a treasure is false. There seem to be two separate issues with this show. One is about whether there is or ever WAS a treasure. The other is the entertainment value of the show. In my mind IF there was a treasure it was found a long time ago and likely only buried at most around 4 feet deep. As far as entertainment value. Some folks get that from watching paint dry so THAT is subjective.
