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If it’s one thing I’ve found out recently, it’s that the places aren’t necessarily “hunted out” as in…”devoid of coins”. It’s that different technology is making them more accessible in the form of better ID so you actually dig them up, or even a signal to begin with. Im not going to derail this thread with my own personal experiences lately, but rather encourage whoever it is that’s running into a dead end to try something different. I HAD to try something different, or go get a different hobby. We have collectively been taking coins of all types out of the ground for 50 years now, it’s getting VERY thin most places.
 
IDXMonster said:
If it’s one thing I’ve found out recently, it’s that the places aren’t necessarily “hunted out” as in…”devoid of coins”. It’s that different technology is making them more accessible in the form of better ID so you actually dig them up, or even a signal to begin with. Im not going to derail this thread with my own personal experiences lately, but rather encourage whoever it is that’s running into a dead end to try something different. I HAD to try something different, or go get a different hobby. We have collectively been taking coins of all types out of the ground for 50 years now, it’s getting VERY thin most places.
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I do invite ANYONE and that new technology to come and be tested in our city park. Convenience the family on a Western vacation this next spring or summer, and I'll take you to a park that goes back 130+ years. Two things I can assure you of is that 1. when you see it you WILL agree there are many many old coins left to be found. 2. after you hunt, you will agree I have done a very good job with the technology I have.

I have used the Equinox 800 there for roughly 6 months and 2 wheats to show for it. And not even that old or deep. The Deus II/Legend/Manticore just might be the ticket. If you have faith in the ability of your new technology over older tech, then you're in for the hunt of a lifetime. 130+ years of coins in with 130+ years of trash. Mostly iron nails from many years of buildings being built and torn down.

We can still take the old E-Trac down and pull a few now & then, which I believe is due to the iron over time rusting away to the point where the conductive target is stronger than the ferrous.

I would love nothing better than to be proven wrong and someone pull all that good stuff just waiting on the right detector or skill.
 
Detector said:
Two things I can assure you of is that 1. when you see the park, you WILL agree there are many many old coins left to be found. 2. after you hunt, you will agree I have done a very good job with the technology I have.
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Hi Detector :)

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but it seems your #1 and #2 are contradictory.
 
Digalicious said:
Hi Detector :)

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but it seems your #1 and #2 are contradictory.
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Not at all. #1 is the fact once you see the park and learn of its past, and see what you're up against, you WILL agree there are many old coins still in the ground there. They go as deep as 24" and you will agree they do. #2 is saying I have had others try and find I have managed to cherry-pick everything they thought their detectors, and skill, would get them.

While I have tried the Equinox 800, and really didn't note any advantage as far as pulling the deep stuff, the park has never seen the Legend, Deus II, or the Manticore, so there is always that chance. I just don't see it in the videos I've seen so far.

Basically what I'm saying is you WILL agree the coins are there. Since I'm betting this new technology will net very little, one would be forced to admit my 20 year old tech did a pretty darn good job.

Wanna know why I'm so sure there are deep old coins left? Watch the video.

 
So Detector, you're saying that there is still a lot of coins on that site, but they are either too masked and/or too deep, but the newer detectors might get some of them. Correct?
 
Detector,

I believe that coin depth.

In my area, coins from just the early 1900's are generally around 10" to 14" deep. If I had coins in my area from the early 1800's, they would be a heck of a lot deeper than that.
 
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Detector said:
I consider myself very lucky in my location. Who hasn't heard of Dodge City, This very location has a history back to 1541 and Coronado. Anything is possible, and I've proved it. From Roman coin to Spanish Reale, and in the state of Kansas which became a state in 1861.

After nearly 50 years of metal detecting the area my bucket list is very low. Boxes & boxes of coins, jewelry & relics even to the point I have many I don't even know what is in them. I would just clean out my pouch and put it in boxes. Many items are on public display in local museums. Metal detecting has a whole new meaning to me now.

As my signature has said for years, The Real Treasure is in the Hunt... I'm getting old and my body is paying the price for my indiscretion when I was younger. I still have many sites ready to give up the goods but I just can't do it anymore. I hunt mostly tot lots because it doesn't require me to bend down in most cases. Sometimes I still make a trip to the city park and throw the dice for some oldies. There is still so much to be pulled out of that park.

Back when I was working and in good health, I chased new technology looking to gain that next 1"-2" that would hand me the goods again for a while, but I think we've hit a wall when it comes to depth. I say this simply because I have given it my all buying the best money could buy until I reached the point that buying the newest dog wasn't getting me any more bite. That was about 5 years ago. I have tried several of the new rigs, but nothing seems to work any deeper in my ground than what I had.

I'm not complaining, metal detecting has been very good to me. Now I can enjoy myself with just a quick hunt for clad or bling.

Back when I was looking for the best of the best. My Deus isn't in this picture, nor my NOX 800.
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I'm right with you Detector. I started detecting in the BFO era. I laid out a few years then bought my first quality detector, a Compass XP Pro in the mid 1980s. I used only that for a good 15-20 years. Since then I've had top line Whites, Garrett, Minelab, now using Deus and Nox. But all my best finds came years ago with the XP Pro, mostly I think because I was the first on the sites with a decent detector!
 
Digalicious said:
So Detector, you're saying that there is still a lot of coins on that site, but they are either too masked and/or too deep, but the newer detectors might get some of them. Correct?
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Yes!

There is no doubt the coins are there for the detector, or detectorist, capable of unmasking or going deep enough. I have gone as deep as 12" with the E-Trac, but after 8" there is so much rusted iron, mostly nails & wire, most detectors can't tell it from a coin. You can't just dig everything that sounds like a coin because you'll spend all your time digging wire & nails. The E-Trac FE vdi is my key, but still only good to its depth ability.

IF this new tech is all that and a slice of bread, then someone could really clean up. I just don't see it happening. I gave it my best with the NOX 800 and came up empty. The videos I've seen don't show anything I feel to be better on the Legend or Deus II. The Manticore, possibily.

Here is another hint as to just how many goodies are waiting for the right detector, or hunter.

Bull fight at Wright Park in 1884. See the grandstands.

http://worldfamousgunfighters.weebly.com/bull-fight-of-1884.html
 
Digalicious said:
Detector,

I believe that coin depth.

In my area, coins from just the early 1900's are generally around 10" to 14" deep. If I had coins in my area from the early 1800's, they would be a heck of a lot deeper than that.
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We have pulled many old coins at shallow depths around town, but Wright park has very deep coins. We pulled an 1854 seated quarter at 6" at Wright park when we first started hunting it. I've pulled many 1800s coins around town at 5" or less.

Most of the low-hanging fruit has been picked, but a lot of fruit remains.

Also, this is the site of a watering hole that has been used since before Coronado crossed there in 1541. According to Coronado's Indian guides, this was an ancient crossing used by their ancestors. I did find a Spanish 2 Reale, but it was too worn to get a date. I believe the river sand did the job.

I'm no longer physically able to hunt the deep stuff I know is there. I would love to see someone else recover it tho.
 
Detector said:
We have pulled many old coins at shallow depths around town, but Wright park has very deep coins. We pulled an 1854 seated quarter at 6" at Wright park when we first started hunting it. I've pulled many 1800s coins around town at 5" or less.
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Sure, there is always going to be exceptions to the rule. But, under the same ground conditions, then in general, the older the coin, the deeper it will be.

Also, I recall something about the E-Trac having a slow recovery rate due to FBS and/or an older, slower processer. If that's true, then that would be a significant detriment in trashy sites.
 
Digalicious said:
Sure, there is always going to be exceptions to the rule. But, under the same ground conditions, then in general, the older the coin, the deeper it will be.

Also, I recall something about the E-Trac having a slow recovery rate due to FBS and/or an older, slower processer. If that's true, then that would be a significant detriment in trashy sites.
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Yes they do get deeper the older, generally. I'm just saying that here in southwest Kansas dirt, hard packed, unless I'm hunting in the flood plain, then most coins I've found over the years have been 5"-6" or less. In a front yard, for example, I found a 1863 3 cent piece at only 2" deep.

Yes the FBS does require a slower swing speed than the newer machines I have learned the key is the threshold. Like my yard is littered with iron my E-Trac is a solid null unless I move the coil at a snail's pace. As long as I can hear the threshold, I know my recovery is fine.

Masking isn't as much of an issue if you use to know what to listen & watch for. While there may be a piece of iron that keeps the E-Trac from giving a good conductive target tone, because it has 1500 TDI segments, you can hear & see the difference in just a piece of iron, or a piece of iron with a conductor by it. As I said, so far there has been little found I have missed, I am just at my E-Trac maximum depth without just digging anything that makes a sound. That is futile.

As I stated before, I've had people take me up on our park before. I had a guy from Kansas City or Missouri come down with several of his hot detectors. Of course, this was years ago, but I had him check 6 targets my E-Trac called good, and each one he called as junk. Every one of them was an old coin. Two were silver. When he left, with clad and one buffalo, his exact words were "I need to reevaluate my thinking on the E-Trac".

Here's the deal. If this new "unmasking" technology is more than hype, then someone will have a killer time. IF these new detectors can reliably, by reliably I mean accurately, get to 8" and deeper, then someone will have a killer time. IF not, then someone will learn a valuable lesson LOL.
 
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Detector said:
Not at all. #1 is the fact once you see the park and learn of its past, and see what you're up against, you WILL agree there are many old coins still in the ground there. They go as deep as 24" and you will agree they do. #2 is saying I have had others try and find I have managed to cherry-pick everything they thought their detectors, and skill, would get them.

While I have tried the Equinox 800, and really didn't note any advantage as far as pulling the deep stuff, the park has never seen the Legend, Deus II, or the Manticore, so there is always that chance. I just don't see it in the videos I've seen so far.

Basically what I'm saying is you WILL agree the coins are there. Since I'm betting this new technology will net very little, one would be forced to admit my 20 year old tech did a pretty darn good job.

Wanna know why I'm so sure there are deep old coins left? Watch the video.

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Super video explaining what you are up against in that park.
One day something will happen to cause the city to do dirt work or renovation in that park revealing a layer of good finds and you will be there ready to pounce.
 
kingman mikey said:
Totally agree with Tom, I don't mind picking up clad change but an OLD coin in the hole gets me excited. I dont hunt parks anymore only sites that I know are old.
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There's a local park near my work that I hit on lunch breaks and cherry pick it only digging what sounds good. the park was established in the early 60s.before that it was just a grass field area with trees.

Today I went out for a bit and found 1 Washington silver quarter 2 rosies a merc and 3 wheats in the same hole! In the past I have pulled several more mercs out that parks around some of the older large trees.

I personally don't mind digging the clad quarters its fun to fill my jar at home.

Bad news for the day I Snapped my Equinox shaft :(:(
 
Well I think part of the game is you need to dig out the three layers of junk to get to the goodie’s, the good stuff is the deepest and has a strong halo, when the !!!! level halo is dispersed and a few years have gone by they always show up using a slow methodical approach, digging the iffy signals. You old timers know what I’m saying. 🧐
 
Detector said:
I do invite ANYONE and that new technology to come and be tested in our city park. Convenience the family on a Western vacation this next spring or summer, and I'll take you to a park that goes back 130+ years. Two things I can assure you of is that 1. when you see it you WILL agree there are many many old coins left to be found. 2. after you hunt, you will agree I have done a very good job with the technology I have.

I have used the Equinox 800 there for roughly 6 months and 2 wheats to show for it. And not even that old or deep. The Deus II/Legend/Manticore just might be the ticket. If you have faith in the ability of your new technology over older tech, then you're in for the hunt of a lifetime. 130+ years of coins in with 130+ years of trash. Mostly iron nails from many years of buildings being built and torn down.

We can still take the old E-Trac down and pull a few now & then, which I believe is due to the iron over time rusting away to the point where the conductive target is stronger than the ferrous.

I would love nothing better than to be proven wrong and someone pull all that good stuff just waiting on the right detector or skill.
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Terry,
I'd honestly LOVE to accept that invitation if you weren't so far away. Not because I want to prove you wrong, but just because I'd like to see the results for myself. We have similar locations around here that have also been hunted for years by experienced detectorists with all sorts of detectors, but mostly FBS. I was shocked at the amount of old coins that I'm still finding with the D2.

Anyway, I have a counter offer for you. Once my Manticore arrives, I'd like to ship you my Deus 2, along with some suggested settings to try at that park. You can hunt with it for a few weeks while I'm learning the Manticore, then ship it back to me and report your results. I wouldn't do this for just anyone, but I've known you for a long time and I trust you. Sound interesting?
 
Rattlehead said:
Terry,
I'd honestly LOVE to accept that invitation if you weren't so far away. Not because I want to prove you wrong, but just because I'd like to see the results for myself. We have similar locations around here that have also been hunted for years by experienced detectorists with all sorts of detectors, but mostly FBS. I was shocked at the amount of old coins that I'm still finding with the D2.

Anyway, I have a counter offer for you. Once my Manticore arrives, I'd like to ship you my Deus 2, along with some suggested settings to try at that park. You can hunt with it for a few weeks while I'm learning the Manticore, then ship it back to me and report your results. I wouldn't do this for just anyone, but I've known you for a long time and I trust you. Sound interesting?
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That would be worth a shot. I used the Deus I in the park and it did about the same as the Equinox 800. It was lost on anything 8" or more. It was either dig everything or nothing. Generally, the only things I find below 8" are nails & wire. The wire is the worst at fooling a detector. But after my years of cherry picking with the E-Trac, there are a lot more nails & wire left than coins I'm afraid.

I would pay to ship both ways for the chance to try the Deus II. You know I love the Deus I. By far the best ergonomic detector I have ever used. Especially for us worn-out old guys LOL.
 
Detector said:
That would be worth a shot. I used the Deus I in the park and it did about the same as the Equinox 800. It was lost on anything 8" or more. It was either dig everything or nothing. Generally, the only things I find below 8" are nails & wire. The wire is the worst at fooling a detector. But after my years of cherry picking with the E-Trac, there are a lot more nails & wire left than coins I'm afraid.

I would pay to ship both ways for the chance to try the Deus II. You know I love the Deus I. By far the best ergonomic detector I have ever used. Especially for us worn-out old guys LOL.
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Sounds like a plan then! The Deus 2 is a whole different animal than the original Deus. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. Hopefully the Manticore gets out to customers in the near future. Once they do start shipping just shoot me PM with your address and I’ll get it on the way to you. I’ll cover shipping to you if you’ll cover it back to me. I’m just as curious to see the results as you are, so this will be interesting. :cheers:


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Rattlehead said:
Sounds like a plan then! The Deus 2 is a whole different animal than the original Deus. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. Hopefully the Manticore gets out to customers in the near future. Once they do start shipping just shoot me PM with your address and I’ll get it on the way to you. I’ll cover shipping to you if you’ll cover it back to me. I’m just as curious to see the results as you are, so this will be interesting. :cheers:


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Sounds great Rattlehead. I've always been curious about the Deus II. You never know, it could be the one to bring the city park back to life.
 
Texas may be dry for coins, but you still have some extremely desirable finds there. Check out the price for some of the early Texas buttons.
 
Tom_in_CA said:
I can think of spots where, if I wanted, I could go dig 100 quarters in a day . But .... gee.... why do that ? By just cherry-picking surface "gimmees". But why do that ? By the time you have your $25.00, you could have likewise earned that at a minimum wage job in the same-few-hours.

I'd rather go look for old coins, or a few silver coins. But .... that's just me.
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It's true you could earn $25 at a minimum wage job but what's the fun in that?
Isn't a HOBBY supposed to be fun, regardless of what you're digging?
The same applies to your "few" silver coins.......you could earn more "value" by working a minimum wage job.....but it's not as much fun.
 
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