Good intelligent questions...keep em coming.
As they used to say in all those old public service ads on tv...
Accustomed to all that racket....yea, for sure.
This was practically silent compared to some of the settings that I use and some of the stuff I hear on mine...keep in mind I have no DST and I don't really care.
Over time i have gotten used to some really noisy settings, a veritable wall of noise and jumping on the screen.
No matter how much racket and noise you have on these things the remarkable thing is they will stop and tell you they are swinging over something good if just for an instant.
You just have to learn to recognize the indicators when this happens.
This was a learned process I got comfortable with over time and many hunts.
I also hunt quietly but my best finds have usually come on my noisier settings for several reasons.
Bad dirt, high EMI...whatever.
Always looking for the quietest settings to be successful but I also know how to do it real noisy, I have great confidence in those noisier methods so I use them too.
It's all about experience and at this point both Keith, and I, have much more than you....Grasshopper.
99 on the sense...most of the time you get deeper that way in his Tennessee soil and mine.
It could backfire on you, and we can probably turn it down some and still hit very deep but it is a mental thing sometimes.
I found something great with these settings before so I will keep using them kind if thing.
Do your thing, not ours, for now.
You need to practice a lot and keep moving those settings ever higher slowly over time to get used to hunting this way.
Want to know a secret?
A very common and much loved way for me to hunt, in both good and bad dirt, heavy trash, crazy iron or relatively garbage free are these settings.
Sense at 99
Thresh at 9
All metal..and remember I don't have DST.
Sometimes I use something we have called SL speed which is boost and can really raise the noise level.
When I started to use these settings to hunt with it was a complete accident, these were my check settings only and I was hunting in a park near an area with the most and craziest EMI problems I have ever been in before or since.
The jumping and noise here was crazy on all of my regularly used normal disc settings.
I was using the other program with lower sense, and thresh settings trying to combat that EMI when I switched into the all metal side to check a deeper target...and I forgot to switch back to disc again after I recovered it and continued hunting.
I immediately found another good target, then another, then I finally realized I was in all metal and not disc.
I found that even with all those problems the all metal with the maxed out settings seemed to handle it all a bit better than much lower settings using disc..a little quieter too if you can believe that.
As I said the thing would just stop acting crazy when I was over a good target and tell me with better indicators than when I was in disc.
I was shocked...but right then I started using those settings more and more to hunt with at all my sites.
A little at a time at first, 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there, the noise was driving me crazy but after time and doing this on many hunts i got more and more used to it and left it on all metal for longer and longer times.
Eventually I got real comfortable with it and now it is a natural and comfortable way for me to hunt...if I turn down the volume on my headphones that is.
As I said most of this stuff is all learned and not innate...with time and practice it all usually comes together.
Do you have the disc level at 0 as you listed, or the thresh...or both?
If you hunt at 0 disc that can be super noisy and confusing.
You will pick up mostly everything in the soil and EMI can come into play, DST or not.
A simple push up to disc on 1 is way less quieter and jumpy.
I use both and lately I am trying to get good at 0 but it can be crazy.
So far I have not missed anything at 1 disc I could not see at 0 but I keep experimenting.
I switched to using 0 disc several weeks ago, DP tones recently too now it is all about practicing.
Getting better with it and it is getting easier on every hunt but I am far from perfect at this point.
0 thresh, that is fine if you like that but on mine I rarely go much higher than -2...especially in multi tones because it makes the tones sound weird to me.
Annoying, actually.
In the lower tone selections it is fine and on my next few hunts I am going to try pushing the thresh up to about 4-5 or so and back down on the sense which I usually have set at 85 on up.
Higher thresh will find more targets, smaller targets deeper, but for coins and rings and things at most common depths -3 on the thresh or so can usually find them...Higher for sure.
You have complete control over the thresh in disc and in one of your all metal settings...The other is factory set and you can't mess with it.
EDIT*****this is incorrect...on F75's you set the thresh in all metal and it stays the same when switching back to disc.
These do not transfer over to each other, you have to set them on each side or just leave them at factory start up levels if you want.
I believe the ground balance you do is the only thing that is shared between the disc and all metal sides...everything else is completely separate.
bruinvikes just used some advice I gave him on his F70 with a concentric coil, set his sense on 60 but pushed the thresh to 4, 3 tones I think, disc I believe about 23 and found a wheat cent at about 8" deep...one of the deepest targets he has found so far.
He hunts in really nice and mild northern Ohio dirt.
High sense low thresh, low sense high thresh....all kinds of combinations can work.
Some don't mind noise some can't stand any.
Even completely different ones might have the same success...you just have to try different ones and see what works best in your soil and what you enjoy the most using and listening to.
There is no law that says you have to use just one combination of settings at any site at any time.
Since there isn't I figure I will continue to try new things to be successful, if I can find more than one way so much the better...more arrows in the quiver to use at any given site.
Who knows...one might work a bit better than another so again...The more I know...
I am not sure what that PF setting entails.
It is for uneven ground but I don't know about the speed, filters or anything else that happens when you use it.
I do know DE works great under most conditions in my sites which are usually parks...uneven ground or not.