DIGGER27
In Memory Of
I have to deal with some pretty strange dirt here in Birmingham in many areas, I have learned a ton about some weird target behavior that is nothing like what I saw, (and loved!), hunting out west in Kansas and Missouri.
I have found amazing amounts of shocking things because of the outside of the box thinking I have been forced to do regarding settings on my F70 and target behavior...especially on the deeper ones that act so illogical and I don't mean good soil deep but starting at just the 4-5" depth area around here.
Still, for all that I have found and as successful as I have been I don't believe you ever stop learning, experimenting, always trying to get better and gain knowledge.
I wrote this up for the members in my F70 social club where we have a few F70 and F75 owners, especially for Darktower007 who is new at all this and attempting to learn this biz and the F70 all at once and hunts in the SE. like me.
I will repost it here in case anyone uses a Fisher, a T2 or any new owners of the soon to be released Patriot and lives in an area like I do and has to deal with this strange devil dirt we are so blessed with.
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Since I moved back here to Bama I have been trying any way I can to find the good stuff while still avoid digging most trash and especially the huge amount of iron I have here lots of which seems to want to act like high tone coins sometimes with lots of high numbers and tones.
Luckily most of that iron stuff drops down to iron here and there if not one way from another so I can usually tell.
Of course I can be fooled, it is possible I can get a decent signal on a coin and there could be iron right next to it or in the vicinity so situations like that can mimic iron target behavior...even using smaller sniper coils.
Such is my lot in life hunting here in my mineralized trash and iron filled world so I deal.
Still, after doing that set of vids in this thread...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=8696
... and looking again at that jumpy zincoln I dug even though it didn't really jump all that much I realized that even though I have been finding lots of great things doing it my way using all I have learned since I moved back here to deal with my difficult soil I have been a little too close minded, a bit too confident in the range of VDI's and target behavior I have been sticking too to ID the good targets especially a bit deeper in this devil dirt.
It seems this soil is even weirder than I thought, the range of jumping I have been sticking to, even though it is pretty wide and extremely wide compared to targets in better soil behavior, it is still not enough for this place.
Yesterday I went back to my scoured neighborhood park and on the way home swung over some curb strips in my neighborhood I have been over a bazillion times and tried some new things.
Normal settings, Sense adjusted between 50-70 depending on the chatter always trying to keep it quiet as possible, 1 Monotone, Thresh at -1 and disc at 1 using the big DD coil.
What was different is what I was looking for in the signals, how much they jumped and exactly where they jumped to and still listened for good solid tones with sharp ends.
I dug more trash and iron than usual trying this and found that all targets that dipped down to iron repeatedly, or at least repeatedly from at least one direction because in many from a specific direction they didn't at all once in awhile, those were always iron or a couple of pieces of iron so...yay.
On others I noticed the numbers stayed pretty high from 2 ways as usual but sometimes they would drop down lower than my usual range of 6-8 numbers or so I usually stayed in...on a couple of deeper ones at about 5" the section drop was also surprising.
A few were trash, can slaw mostly but there were a couple of good coin targets too.
The pic below is of one such target.
In a curb strip that I have hit so many times but missed this thing on every pass at 5" deep it jumped between the mid 80's to low 90's as usual but I also had several drops way lower into the 40's to 50's...behavior that in the past I usually walked on by.
I see now that was a mistake.
As I said this devil dirt is even stranger than I knew so I have been missing stuff.
No more, if I have to dig a bit more trash to find targets like this so be it...as steve in az once stated "I am out here to dig, not just swing".
The sniper coil might help in this area, maybe more normal behavior that I know with less jumping than using the big DD but I have hunted those curb strips many times using that coil and still missed several coins including that wheat.
It won't be much more trash digging, I can't stand doing that so I avoid all that I can but widening up the range of jumpy VDI numbers I dig won't hurt me all that much, more exercise for me and if it helps me find even more all worth it.
I wish I was still digging in great Kansas dirt...none of this stuff seemed to happen out there no matter how deep targets get but as the saying goes if wishes were horses we would all be riding ponies.
As always I continue to learn, experiment and try to get better at this hobby no matter what obstacles the universe tries to throw in my path.
Such is life living and hunting here in the deep south.
I have found amazing amounts of shocking things because of the outside of the box thinking I have been forced to do regarding settings on my F70 and target behavior...especially on the deeper ones that act so illogical and I don't mean good soil deep but starting at just the 4-5" depth area around here.
Still, for all that I have found and as successful as I have been I don't believe you ever stop learning, experimenting, always trying to get better and gain knowledge.
I wrote this up for the members in my F70 social club where we have a few F70 and F75 owners, especially for Darktower007 who is new at all this and attempting to learn this biz and the F70 all at once and hunts in the SE. like me.
I will repost it here in case anyone uses a Fisher, a T2 or any new owners of the soon to be released Patriot and lives in an area like I do and has to deal with this strange devil dirt we are so blessed with.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Since I moved back here to Bama I have been trying any way I can to find the good stuff while still avoid digging most trash and especially the huge amount of iron I have here lots of which seems to want to act like high tone coins sometimes with lots of high numbers and tones.
Luckily most of that iron stuff drops down to iron here and there if not one way from another so I can usually tell.
Of course I can be fooled, it is possible I can get a decent signal on a coin and there could be iron right next to it or in the vicinity so situations like that can mimic iron target behavior...even using smaller sniper coils.
Such is my lot in life hunting here in my mineralized trash and iron filled world so I deal.
Still, after doing that set of vids in this thread...
http://metaldetectingforum.com/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=8696
... and looking again at that jumpy zincoln I dug even though it didn't really jump all that much I realized that even though I have been finding lots of great things doing it my way using all I have learned since I moved back here to deal with my difficult soil I have been a little too close minded, a bit too confident in the range of VDI's and target behavior I have been sticking too to ID the good targets especially a bit deeper in this devil dirt.
It seems this soil is even weirder than I thought, the range of jumping I have been sticking to, even though it is pretty wide and extremely wide compared to targets in better soil behavior, it is still not enough for this place.
Yesterday I went back to my scoured neighborhood park and on the way home swung over some curb strips in my neighborhood I have been over a bazillion times and tried some new things.
Normal settings, Sense adjusted between 50-70 depending on the chatter always trying to keep it quiet as possible, 1 Monotone, Thresh at -1 and disc at 1 using the big DD coil.
What was different is what I was looking for in the signals, how much they jumped and exactly where they jumped to and still listened for good solid tones with sharp ends.
I dug more trash and iron than usual trying this and found that all targets that dipped down to iron repeatedly, or at least repeatedly from at least one direction because in many from a specific direction they didn't at all once in awhile, those were always iron or a couple of pieces of iron so...yay.
On others I noticed the numbers stayed pretty high from 2 ways as usual but sometimes they would drop down lower than my usual range of 6-8 numbers or so I usually stayed in...on a couple of deeper ones at about 5" the section drop was also surprising.
A few were trash, can slaw mostly but there were a couple of good coin targets too.
The pic below is of one such target.
In a curb strip that I have hit so many times but missed this thing on every pass at 5" deep it jumped between the mid 80's to low 90's as usual but I also had several drops way lower into the 40's to 50's...behavior that in the past I usually walked on by.
I see now that was a mistake.
As I said this devil dirt is even stranger than I knew so I have been missing stuff.
No more, if I have to dig a bit more trash to find targets like this so be it...as steve in az once stated "I am out here to dig, not just swing".
The sniper coil might help in this area, maybe more normal behavior that I know with less jumping than using the big DD but I have hunted those curb strips many times using that coil and still missed several coins including that wheat.
It won't be much more trash digging, I can't stand doing that so I avoid all that I can but widening up the range of jumpy VDI numbers I dig won't hurt me all that much, more exercise for me and if it helps me find even more all worth it.
I wish I was still digging in great Kansas dirt...none of this stuff seemed to happen out there no matter how deep targets get but as the saying goes if wishes were horses we would all be riding ponies.
As always I continue to learn, experiment and try to get better at this hobby no matter what obstacles the universe tries to throw in my path.
Such is life living and hunting here in the deep south.
