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Old 08-17-2018, 06:29 PM
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Default Nice old gun and a whatsit

I got done with work fairly early today so I went curb strippin.
My guess is the old cap gun is 30's to 40's.

I haven't got a clue what the ornate piece of brass is though. Tried to bend it back but it wants to crack.

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Old 08-17-2018, 06:43 PM
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Awesome cap gun. I'm amazed at its condition. I've dug a few that were not as old, and in terrible condition. I'd try to unfold that brass piece. Even though it will probably crack to pieces. I wouldn't be able to help myself. Thanks for posting!

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Old 08-17-2018, 06:46 PM
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Awesome cap gun. I'm amazed at its condition. I've dug a few that were not as old, and in terrible condition. I'd try to unfold that brass piece. Even though it will probably crack to pieces. I wouldn't be able to help myself. Thanks for posting!
Thanks man! It's by far the nicest and most complete gun I've ever dug. This one wasn't crusty like the pieces of old cap guns I normally dig up..... unfortunately I dinged the trigger guard.

I might have to unfold that brass piece. I'm curious.

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Old 08-17-2018, 07:33 PM
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you might want to put some heat on that piece with a butane torch before you try to unbend it, it should make it easier to unbend and possibly without breaking it
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:47 PM
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That gun was made in USA, it's OLD.

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Old 08-17-2018, 09:04 PM
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Made in the USA and even had a spot to oil it. I love it, great find!
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:19 PM
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Cool finds. I recall having a similar style cap gun when I was very young, in the 1960's.
The brass piece might be an old ashtray or a coaster.

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The name must have come from Hawk-eye in The Last of the Mohicans. Looks like the Mohican hair too.

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Originally Posted by BuscaPlata View post
you might want to put some heat on that piece with a butane torch before you try to unbend it, it should make it easier to unbend and possibly without breaking it
I may give that a try. It looks really neat whatever it is!

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Old 08-17-2018, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3.14R8 View post
Made in the USA and even had a spot to oil it. I love it, great find!
Thanks pi! I thought that oil port was really neat.....back when they made stuff good!

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Old 08-17-2018, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike1961 View post
Cool finds. I recall having a similar style cap gun when I was very young, in the 1960's.
The brass piece might be an old ashtray or a coaster.
Thanks Mike!

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You have to anneal the brass before bending it. Bend it a little, then anneal again, and repeat.

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Old 08-18-2018, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RBachman View post
You have to anneal the brass before bending it. Bend it a little, then anneal again, and repeat.
I don't know what annealing is

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Thatís a great cap gun! Congrats!

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I had a gun like that when I was a kid,,, the brass thing,,, They took a brass plate and put a design on it and people hung them on the wall ,,, they were diff sizes and color ,, some had a more yellow tint some were dark tint your is a dark tint...
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That's a very cool capgun in great shape!

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Originally Posted by TundraPlugger View post
I don't know what annealing is

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Heat it up until it glows red...more of a darker red. They must be thinking dark cherries. Bright red is going to It's easier to see if you do this in low light. Keep the flame moving to prevent burning or melty the copper. Quench it in cool/cold water and then bend. Go slow, repeat the annealing when it gets difficult to bend.

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Old 08-18-2018, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GroundSweeper View post
Thatís a great cap gun! Congrats!
Thanks Sweeper! Kinda sad I hit it but I think I can bend that trigger guard back out again

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Originally Posted by NCtoad View post
That's a very cool capgun in great shape!
Thanks NC! Usually I just dig up pieces of them

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Old 08-18-2018, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RBachman View post
Heat it up until it glows red...more of a darker red. They must be thinking dark cherries. Bright red is going to It's easier to see if you do this in low light. Keep the flame moving to prevent burning or melty the copper. Quench it in cool/cold water and then bend. Go slow, repeat the annealing when it gets difficult to bend.
I may have to see if my brother will give it a try.....he's the welde r in the family

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