I picked up a killer deal on an Etrac off ebay. It was "lightly used", came with the box, all paperwork, an extra coil, and some other little things. Looked brand new, and worked perfectly fine. They have pretty good protections on there for buyers. I've yet to be burned there. Been a few years back, but it was a great deal. There are used machines on there all the time. You'll probably get some people that don't like ebay, but to each their own. Just giving ya my experience. The sponsors on here have some good deals on new stuff.